[nycphp-jobs] jobs Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10
A James
minimingus at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 17 09:57:06 EDT 2009
If you need a job... get a job. If you don't, no one cares to view 'wise-ass' comments.... dumb junk (including this response) in my inbox.
Good day.
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> 1. Re: Senior PHP5 developer - Social media (Web)
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> 3. Re: Senior PHP5 developer - Social media (Aditya)
> 4. Re: Senior PHP5 developer - Social media (Brian O'Connor)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:10:09 -0400
> From: "Web" <webmiester at gmail.com>
> To: "Matthew Knight" <matt at reconstrukt.com>, "Aditya"
> <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>
> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> Message-ID: <B525A792321240DAB1936908905805D3 at WebWorksPC>
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>
> Matt, there is a line about "Social Media", true.
>
> Texting is considered social media too. Am I the only one who is tired of
> these job listings with hyperbole?
>
> You all have a nice day.
>
> Rob
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Matthew Knight" <matt at reconstrukt.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:36 AM
> To: "Aditya" <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>; "Web" <Webmiester at gmail.com>
> Cc: <jobs at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
>
> > Yeah, Rob, you don?t even make sense. There isn?t even a line about
> > needing to be "passionate about texting " in the rec.
> >
> > I love wiseass remarks but at least make sure they, you know, *correlate*
> > to something.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> > On Behalf Of Aditya
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:02 AM
> > To: Web
> > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > I feel i am not the only one who thinks your wise cracks are not
> > really required most times.
> >
> > Adi
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Web<webmiester at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ms. Hansbury,
> >>
> >> I am so passionate about texting that I won't have any time to be an
> >> innovative leader. Ooops, gotta run, text message coming in...
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Kainne Hansbury
> >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:54 AM
> >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> >> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >> Talented PHP / LAMP Developer with a passion for Social Media needed for
> >> an
> >> innovative leader in the NY Technology Community!
> >>
> >> We have done significant work with this client resulting in the placement
> >> of
> >> 5 individuals over the past 12 months, including two members of the
> >> current
> >> technology team. This is a great opportunity for a seasoned PHP5
> >> developer
> >> with good communication skills and an interest in the world of social
> >> technology / media. You'll be working across a range of projects and be
> >> expected to keep a number of balls in the air as you work on a diverse
> >> set
> >> of challenges.
> >>
> >> The culture of this firm is perhaps their strongest selling point. Their
> >> rampant success and solid revenue growth doesn't hurt either. This is a
> >> chance to work with a tight-knit crew in a relaxed, organized setting.
> >> This
> >> is a group that works and plays well together. They're led by a
> >> management
> >> team with a track record of success in the online world, and their
> >> current
> >> investors are made up of some of the most respected names in the
> >> business.
> >>
> >> Submit your resume today for immediate consideration on this full time on
> >> site opportunity. Candidates should have a track record of permanent
> >> employment and sponsorship is not available with this company.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kainne E. Hansbury
> >>
> >> Senior Consultant - Technology Division
> >>
> >> Winter, Wyman & Company - New York
> >>
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kainnehansbury
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>
> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>
> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>
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> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>
> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:17:46 -0400
> From: "Matthew Knight" <matt at reconstrukt.com>
> To: "Web" <Webmiester at gmail.com>, "Aditya" <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>
> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> Message-ID:
> <A8FC43E208A0EC47A4A158EF319A772F015050A1 at be33.exg3.exghost.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Nah, you're reaching. But keep 'em coming anyway, this list is sometimes a bit on the dry side.
>
> Cheers
> Matt
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Web [mailto:webmiester at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:10 AM
> To: Matthew Knight; Aditya
> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
>
> Matt, there is a line about "Social Media", true.
>
> Texting is considered social media too. Am I the only one who is tired of
> these job listings with hyperbole?
>
> You all have a nice day.
>
> Rob
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Matthew Knight" <matt at reconstrukt.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:36 AM
> To: "Aditya" <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>; "Web" <Webmiester at gmail.com>
> Cc: <jobs at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
>
> > Yeah, Rob, you don?t even make sense. There isn?t even a line about
> > needing to be "passionate about texting " in the rec.
> >
> > I love wiseass remarks but at least make sure they, you know, *correlate*
> > to something.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> > On Behalf Of Aditya
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:02 AM
> > To: Web
> > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > I feel i am not the only one who thinks your wise cracks are not
> > really required most times.
> >
> > Adi
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Web<webmiester at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ms. Hansbury,
> >>
> >> I am so passionate about texting that I won't have any time to be an
> >> innovative leader. Ooops, gotta run, text message coming in...
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Kainne Hansbury
> >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:54 AM
> >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> >> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >> Talented PHP / LAMP Developer with a passion for Social Media needed for
> >> an
> >> innovative leader in the NY Technology Community!
> >>
> >> We have done significant work with this client resulting in the placement
> >> of
> >> 5 individuals over the past 12 months, including two members of the
> >> current
> >> technology team. This is a great opportunity for a seasoned PHP5
> >> developer
> >> with good communication skills and an interest in the world of social
> >> technology / media. You'll be working across a range of projects and be
> >> expected to keep a number of balls in the air as you work on a diverse
> >> set
> >> of challenges.
> >>
> >> The culture of this firm is perhaps their strongest selling point. Their
> >> rampant success and solid revenue growth doesn't hurt either. This is a
> >> chance to work with a tight-knit crew in a relaxed, organized setting.
> >> This
> >> is a group that works and plays well together. They're led by a
> >> management
> >> team with a track record of success in the online world, and their
> >> current
> >> investors are made up of some of the most respected names in the
> >> business.
> >>
> >> Submit your resume today for immediate consideration on this full time on
> >> site opportunity. Candidates should have a track record of permanent
> >> employment and sponsorship is not available with this company.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kainne E. Hansbury
> >>
> >> Senior Consultant - Technology Division
> >>
> >> Winter, Wyman & Company - New York
> >>
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kainnehansbury
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>
> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>
> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>
> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>
> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:00:55 +0530
> From: Aditya <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>
> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> Message-ID:
> <26f3a010907170630q41aca2e8p689191c1c1514d88 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Yeah i gotta take my word back too if "hyperboles" are the issue. I'm
> tired too, people looking to hire innovative guys should come up with
> innovative job descriptions aswell.
>
> I guess most recruiters simply send the job descriptions given to them
> by founders/hiring managers of the companies, who inturn get it from
> some blog post of some other startups that starts every job opening
> with "are you a rockstar developer" or "ready to change the world"
>
> Change the world, yeah right why not, on every <?php tag i open..;-)
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Matthew Knight<matt at reconstrukt.com> wrote:
> > Nah, you're reaching. ?But keep 'em coming anyway, this list is sometimes a bit on the dry side.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Web [mailto:webmiester at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:10 AM
> > To: Matthew Knight; Aditya
> > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >
> > Matt, there is a line about "Social Media", true.
> >
> > Texting is considered social media too. ?Am I the only one who is tired of
> > these job listings with hyperbole?
> >
> > You all have a nice day.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Matthew Knight" <matt at reconstrukt.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:36 AM
> > To: "Aditya" <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>; "Web" <Webmiester at gmail.com>
> > Cc: <jobs at lists.nyphp.org>
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >
> >> Yeah, Rob, you don?t even make sense. ?There isn?t even a line about
> >> needing to be "passionate about texting " in the rec.
> >>
> >> I love wiseass remarks but at least make sure they, you know, *correlate*
> >> to something.
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Aditya
> >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:02 AM
> >> To: Web
> >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I feel i am not the only one who thinks your wise cracks are not
> >> really required most times.
> >>
> >> Adi
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Web<webmiester at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Ms. Hansbury,
> >>>
> >>> I am so passionate about texting that I won't have any time to be an
> >>> innovative leader. ?Ooops, gotta run, text message coming in...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Kainne Hansbury
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:54 AM
> >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> >>> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >>> Talented PHP / LAMP Developer with a passion for Social Media needed for
> >>> an
> >>> innovative leader in the NY Technology Community!
> >>>
> >>> We have done significant work with this client resulting in the placement
> >>> of
> >>> 5 individuals over the past 12 months, including two members of the
> >>> current
> >>> technology team. ?This is a great opportunity for a seasoned PHP5
> >>> developer
> >>> with good communication skills and an interest in the world of social
> >>> technology / media. ?You'll be working across a range of projects and be
> >>> expected to keep a number of balls in the air as you work on a diverse
> >>> set
> >>> of challenges.
> >>>
> >>> The culture of this firm is perhaps their strongest selling point. ?Their
> >>> rampant success and solid revenue growth doesn't hurt either. ?This is a
> >>> chance to work with a tight-knit crew in a relaxed, organized setting.
> >>> This
> >>> is a group that works and plays well together. ?They're led by a
> >>> management
> >>> team with a track record of success in the online world, and their
> >>> current
> >>> investors are made up of some of the most respected names in the
> >>> business.
> >>>
> >>> Submit your resume today for immediate consideration on this full time on
> >>> site opportunity. Candidates should have a track record of permanent
> >>> employment and sponsorship is not available with this company.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kainne E. Hansbury
> >>>
> >>> Senior Consultant - Technology Division
> >>>
> >>> Winter, Wyman & Company - New York
> >>>
> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kainnehansbury
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>>
> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>>
> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>>
> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>>
> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >>
> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>
> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:51:22 -0400
> From: "Brian O'Connor" <gatzby3jr at gmail.com>
> To: Matthew Knight <matt at reconstrukt.com>
> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> Message-ID:
> <29da5d150907170651g3c017cdevd0adf9b0b392698a at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> I disagree. Many times over the past several years this has come up and
> each time it is equally if not more so annoying than the past. I signed up
> to this mailing list to see available php jobs on the market.
>
> If you don't like a particular posting or have a problem with ut, please
> simply disregard it - It's not a problem, or if the list has become too
> "hyperbolic" for you, then remove yourself. Just because a posting doesn't
> have exactly what you like to see in a job posting doesn't mean it isn't
> valuable for someone else.
>
> I don't want to see someone try and make a witty comment each time they see
> a job posting because it doesn't fit their standards of what they're looking
> to see. If you have a posting relevant to the job, by all means do it, but
> please don't post to this list trying to get a few eLaughs at the risk of
> discouraging future job posters from submitting their email, and at the
> expense of spamming others inboxes.
>
> They posted a job for PHP developers on a PHP job list. If that wasn't what
> you were expecting, you signed up to the wrong list.
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matthew Knight <matt at reconstrukt.com>wrote:
>
> > Nah, you're reaching. But keep 'em coming anyway, this list is sometimes a
> > bit on the dry side.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Web [mailto:webmiester at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:10 AM
> > To: Matthew Knight; Aditya
> > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >
> > Matt, there is a line about "Social Media", true.
> >
> > Texting is considered social media too. Am I the only one who is tired of
> > these job listings with hyperbole?
> >
> > You all have a nice day.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Matthew Knight" <matt at reconstrukt.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:36 AM
> > To: "Aditya" <aditya.r.d at gmail.com>; "Web" <Webmiester at gmail.com>
> > Cc: <jobs at lists.nyphp.org>
> > Subject: RE: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> >
> > > Yeah, Rob, you don?t even make sense. There isn?t even a line about
> > > needing to be "passionate about texting " in the rec.
> > >
> > > I love wiseass remarks but at least make sure they, you know, *correlate*
> > > to something.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Aditya
> > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:02 AM
> > > To: Web
> > > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> > > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> > >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > I feel i am not the only one who thinks your wise cracks are not
> > > really required most times.
> > >
> > > Adi
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Web<webmiester at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Ms. Hansbury,
> > >>
> > >> I am so passionate about texting that I won't have any time to be an
> > >> innovative leader. Ooops, gotta run, text message coming in...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rob
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Kainne Hansbury
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:54 AM
> > >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
> > >> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Senior PHP5 developer - Social media
> > >> Talented PHP / LAMP Developer with a passion for Social Media needed for
> > >> an
> > >> innovative leader in the NY Technology Community!
> > >>
> > >> We have done significant work with this client resulting in the
> > placement
> > >> of
> > >> 5 individuals over the past 12 months, including two members of the
> > >> current
> > >> technology team. This is a great opportunity for a seasoned PHP5
> > >> developer
> > >> with good communication skills and an interest in the world of social
> > >> technology / media. You'll be working across a range of projects and be
> > >> expected to keep a number of balls in the air as you work on a diverse
> > >> set
> > >> of challenges.
> > >>
> > >> The culture of this firm is perhaps their strongest selling point.
> > Their
> > >> rampant success and solid revenue growth doesn't hurt either. This is a
> > >> chance to work with a tight-knit crew in a relaxed, organized setting.
> > >> This
> > >> is a group that works and plays well together. They're led by a
> > >> management
> > >> team with a track record of success in the online world, and their
> > >> current
> > >> investors are made up of some of the most respected names in the
> > >> business.
> > >>
> > >> Submit your resume today for immediate consideration on this full time
> > on
> > >> site opportunity. Candidates should have a track record of permanent
> > >> employment and sponsorship is not available with this company.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kainne E. Hansbury
> > >>
> > >> Senior Consultant - Technology Division
> > >>
> > >> Winter, Wyman & Company - New York
> > >>
> > >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kainnehansbury
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> > >>
> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> > >>
> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> > >>
> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> > >>
> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> > >
> > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> > >
> > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Brian O'Connor
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