From anna_ppalm at yahoo.com Mon Oct 1 09:32:14 2007 From: anna_ppalm at yahoo.com (Anna Palm) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 9, Issue 12 Message-ID: <694134.20706.qm@web34705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anna Palm I am planning on going. Anna joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. October Joomla Meeting (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) 2. After meeting hangout (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) 3. Re: Joomla SIG website features : JUG NY Online Community Planning (Sachiko Goodyear) 4. Re: After meeting hangout (Anthony Ferrara) 5. Re: October Joomla Meeting (Laura Gordon) 6. Re: October Joomla Meeting (Dan) 7. Re: SEO (Dan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:28:50 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] October Joomla Meeting To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla , Hans Zaunere , Mitch Pirtle , Anthony Ferrara Message-ID: <46FD2BC2.2030100 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >From October onwards, out meeting date is now the second thursday of the month. Date: October 11th 6PM to 8PM Location: Robert Half Technology 245 Park Avenue, 25th Fl. 46th - 47th St. (near grand central) We have room for 50 people. People will need to RSVP in advance so we have a list for security, and you will need some form of photo id onhand for security. We will be setting up a website and an RSVP form over the weekend, for now you can simply email me your RSVP and I'll manually add you to the list. Schedule: Our last meeting was a long presentation about Joomla in general. So this time around, I'd like to aim to have a number of quick presentations and we can alternate meetings going forward(big presentations followed by short presentations, etc). We will aim for 4 small presentations, with the first 2 being geared for a more user level, and the last 2 for developers. Anyone who willing to do a short 15-20 minute presentation, please contact me. Therefore, our schedule will be: Session 1: 6:00-6:20 - Community Builder, what it is and what it is not Session 2: 6:20-6:40 JUG/SIG Planning: 6:45-7:15. To discuss: Community Website plans and needs Community Projects Session 3: 7:20-7:40 Session 4: 7:40-8:00 Presentations: At the last meeting, I noticed some discussions on building a "community" website, and the component that get's mentioned frequently is Community Builder. Community Builder, by itself, doesn't provide much in the way of "community" features, but it is a strong basis for such websites. So I'd like to do a brief review of the features of CB to begin with, along with thoughts on what it allows you to do as far as community websites are concerned. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:28:50 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] After meeting hangout To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <46FD39D2.90808 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If there is interest in it, after the meeting those who don't need to rush home could go over to TGIF's (or suggest an alternate?) to hang out for a bit. The nearest one seems to be: 47 East 42nd Street http://tgifridays.know-where.com/tgifridays/cgi/site?01606 After all, not having run a meeting before, I believe I made a mistake and owe Mitch a beer for being kind enough to do our first presentation(and yes, I suppose the offer extends to anyone presenting at the next meeting. :-)) Let me know what the level of interest is and if it is large enough we can make sure to get a reservation(and if any of you NY natives have a suggestion for someplace better, feel free to speak up!) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Sachiko Goodyear Subject: [joomla] Re: Joomla SIG website features : JUG NY Online Community Planning To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Message-ID: <359700.84986.qm at web55507.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have some experience with this as I helped setup www.nnjastd.org (drupal version due oct07). There is also a good article by Ohio State http://webgarden.osu.edu/buckeye2007.pdf They used Joomla to build up their community site. A forum(fireboard?) -YES A notification list(yanc?) - YES An event calendar(???) - YES An RSVP system for signing up for meetings(???) -YES A PMS system of some sort - Don't these things bug out on a monthly basis? ;P Mos Def put some tutorials up or at least some good feeds. How bout job postings and member dir for prof networking? Maybe a cart for purchasing training events even if $0 (be nice to have some free training events hosted by volunteers). I'm biased to training b/c I'm in eLearning. speaking of which Colin Moock is giving a FREE, that's right FREE training on AS3 http://www.adobeas3tour.com/ joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Joomla SIG website features (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:04:45 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] Joomla SIG website features To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <46FCFBED.3040103 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed We're setting up a website for the Joomla SIG, I was wondering what features people would like to see, and what components they like for those features? Off the top of my head, we should have: A forum(fireboard?) A notification list(yanc?) An event calendar(???) An RSVP system for signing up for meetings(???) A PMS system of some sort Whatever we use should work under legacy mode on 1.5 at the least, and perhaps for our first few projects if we use GPL components we could upgrade them to the 1.5 model. So any thoughts on the best/simplest modules to meet these needs? ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla at lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11 ************************************* Sachiko Goodyear Director of Technology-based Learning Goodyear Learning, LLC http://www.goodyearlearning.com ph: 201-349-5862 --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20070928/dea0f757/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Anthony Ferrara Subject: Re: [joomla] After meeting hangout To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: <494897.37687.qm at web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm in, I just need to catch the train back by like 11pm... --- bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > If there is interest in it, after the meeting those > who don't need to > rush home could go over to TGIF's (or suggest an > alternate?) to hang out > for a bit. > > The nearest one seems to be: > 47 East 42nd Street > http://tgifridays.know-where.com/tgifridays/cgi/site?01606 > > After all, not having run a meeting before, I > believe I made a mistake > and owe Mitch a beer for being kind enough to do our > first > presentation(and yes, I suppose the offer extends to > anyone presenting > at the next meeting. :-)) > > Let me know what the level of interest is and if it > is large enough we > can make sure to get a reservation(and if any of you > NY natives have a > suggestion for someplace better, feel free to speak > up!) > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Gordon Subject: Re: [joomla] October Joomla Meeting To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: <443284.68216.qm at web31809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am able to make it, please put me down: Laura Gordon email: li_gordon at yahoo.com The side I did with AdsManager came out pretty good... http://www.sensationalsummers.com http://www.acanjsummercampfairs.com If you do a presentation on Community Builder, don't you need as well: CBJuice: a great product to import user records into community builder JACL Plus: I think that is it, to actually work with groups, etc. At another section you may want to focus on shopping carts, such as VirtueMart, which is fantastic! --- Laura bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: >From October onwards, out meeting date is now the second thursday of the month. Date: October 11th 6PM to 8PM Location: Robert Half Technology 245 Park Avenue, 25th Fl. 46th - 47th St. (near grand central) We have room for 50 people. People will need to RSVP in advance so we have a list for security, and you will need some form of photo id onhand for security. We will be setting up a website and an RSVP form over the weekend, for now you can simply email me your RSVP and I'll manually add you to the list. Schedule: Our last meeting was a long presentation about Joomla in general. So this time around, I'd like to aim to have a number of quick presentations and we can alternate meetings going forward(big presentations followed by short presentations, etc). We will aim for 4 small presentations, with the first 2 being geared for a more user level, and the last 2 for developers. Anyone who willing to do a short 15-20 minute presentation, please contact me. Therefore, our schedule will be: Session 1: 6:00-6:20 - Community Builder, what it is and what it is not Session 2: 6:20-6:40 JUG/SIG Planning: 6:45-7:15. To discuss: Community Website plans and needs Community Projects Session 3: 7:20-7:40 Session 4: 7:40-8:00 Presentations: At the last meeting, I noticed some discussions on building a "community" website, and the component that get's mentioned frequently is Community Builder. Community Builder, by itself, doesn't provide much in the way of "community" features, but it is a strong basis for such websites. So I'd like to do a brief review of the features of CB to begin with, along with thoughts on what it allows you to do as far as community websites are concerned. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php --------------------------------- http://www.rytechmemories.com Create Beautiful movies for your family Create dynamic websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20070928/bdc180d4/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:13:01 -0400 From: Dan Subject: Re: [joomla] October Joomla Meeting To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I will be there! (I posted this once but it bounced back to me.) Dan dan at muchospanish.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:24:55 -0400 From: Dan Subject: Re: [joomla] SEO To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found this eBook to be very helpful: http://www.alledia.com/joomla-seo-ebook-affiliates/ Dan On 9/26/07, Ajai Khattri wrote: > > Having built several ecommerce sites with Joomla, Ive always found the > subject of search engine optimization and hows its done in Joomla a bit > confusing. Can anyone recommend any URLs or docs that explain this > clearly? > > Or maybe we can discuss it here? > > > -- > Aj. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla at lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 9, Issue 12 ************************************* --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Mon Oct 1 16:31:16 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:31:16 -0400 Subject: [joomla] After meeting hangout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47015914.9020508@beezifies.com> Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > >> rush home could go over to TGIF's (or suggest an alternate?) to hang out >> for a bit. > > I think TGIF is the cheeziest tackiest place to hangout after any > meeting... > Maybe, but they have an online website which has a simple locator. :-) If you know the Grand Central area and want to suggest an Alternate, I'm flexible. Outside of Union Square & Astor Place, I'm Manhattan ignorant. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Mon Oct 1 17:12:32 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:12:32 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Presentations Message-ID: <470162C0.5050007@beezifies.com> I'm still looking for 1 developer level presentation and 1 user level presentation for the next meeting. You can contact me through the forums here if your interested. Presentations should be short, 15-20 minutes, to give people some ideas/thoughts/insights. If you can't make this meeting but will be coming to future meetings and are willing to present, feel free to let me know so I can work out the scheduling. Also let me know if you prefer to do a short presentation or a long(an hour or so) presentation as we will alternate formats. From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 21:28:13 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:28:13 -0400 Subject: [joomla] After meeting hangout In-Reply-To: <47015914.9020508@beezifies.com> References: <47015914.9020508@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710011828g7a0decb0x41c4cd14ff202c41@mail.gmail.com> On 10/1/07, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > > If you know the Grand Central area and want to suggest an Alternate, I'm > flexible. Outside of Union Square & Astor Place, I'm Manhattan ignorant. Guinness. You owe me a Guinness. -- Mitch, smiling in anticipation From li_gordon at yahoo.com Mon Oct 1 22:21:36 2007 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Presentations In-Reply-To: <470162C0.5050007@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <214918.49194.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Am I giving a presentation on CB Juice and JACLPlus? If so it would be from a backend level, but not 'php - developer', something in between, if that makes sense, just a high level overview about the products. -- Laura bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: I'm still looking for 1 developer level presentation and 1 user level presentation for the next meeting. You can contact me through the forums here if your interested. Presentations should be short, 15-20 minutes, to give people some ideas/thoughts/insights. If you can't make this meeting but will be coming to future meetings and are willing to present, feel free to let me know so I can work out the scheduling. Also let me know if you prefer to do a short presentation or a long(an hour or so) presentation as we will alternate formats. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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URL: From sachikogoodyear at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 13:38:19 2007 From: sachikogoodyear at yahoo.com (Sachiko Goodyear) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 Message-ID: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Never been, but the Campbell Apartment sounds nice. http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/11351464/new_york_ny/the_campbell_apartment.html joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: After meeting hangout (Ajai Khattri) 2. Re: After meeting hangout (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) 3. Presentations (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) 4. Re: After meeting hangout (Mitch Pirtle) 5. Re: Presentations (Laura Gordon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ajai Khattri Subject: Re: [joomla] After meeting hangout To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > rush home could go over to TGIF's (or suggest an alternate?) to hang out > for a bit. I think TGIF is the cheeziest tackiest place to hangout after any meeting... -- Aj. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:31:16 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: Re: [joomla] After meeting hangout To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <47015914.9020508 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > >> rush home could go over to TGIF's (or suggest an alternate?) to hang out >> for a bit. > > I think TGIF is the cheeziest tackiest place to hangout after any > meeting... > Maybe, but they have an online website which has a simple locator. :-) If you know the Grand Central area and want to suggest an Alternate, I'm flexible. Outside of Union Square & Astor Place, I'm Manhattan ignorant. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:12:32 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] Presentations To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <470162C0.5050007 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm still looking for 1 developer level presentation and 1 user level presentation for the next meeting. You can contact me through the forums here if your interested. Presentations should be short, 15-20 minutes, to give people some ideas/thoughts/insights. If you can't make this meeting but will be coming to future meetings and are willing to present, feel free to let me know so I can work out the scheduling. Also let me know if you prefer to do a short presentation or a long(an hour or so) presentation as we will alternate formats. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:28:13 -0400 From: "Mitch Pirtle" Subject: Re: [joomla] After meeting hangout To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: <330532b60710011828g7a0decb0x41c4cd14ff202c41 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 10/1/07, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > > If you know the Grand Central area and want to suggest an Alternate, I'm > flexible. Outside of Union Square & Astor Place, I'm Manhattan ignorant. Guinness. You owe me a Guinness. -- Mitch, smiling in anticipation ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Gordon Subject: Re: [joomla] Presentations To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" Message-ID: <214918.49194.qm at web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Am I giving a presentation on CB Juice and JACLPlus? If so it would be from a backend level, but not 'php - developer', something in between, if that makes sense, just a high level overview about the products. -- Laura bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: I'm still looking for 1 developer level presentation and 1 user level presentation for the next meeting. You can contact me through the forums here if your interested. Presentations should be short, 15-20 minutes, to give people some ideas/thoughts/insights. If you can't make this meeting but will be coming to future meetings and are willing to present, feel free to let me know so I can work out the scheduling. Also let me know if you prefer to do a short presentation or a long(an hour or so) presentation as we will alternate formats. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php --------------------------------- http://www.rytechmemories.com Create Beautiful movies for your family Create dynamic websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:50:37 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:50:37 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710021050q40b7ef3fr2231971255ef7311@mail.gmail.com> On 10/2/07, Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > Never been, but the Campbell Apartment sounds nice. > http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/11351464/new_york_ny/the_campbell_apartment.html > "The bar tactfully but firmly enforces a dress code, so jeans and sneakers are a no-go." Bzzt! Thanks for playing. Next! From compustretch at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 16:55:24 2007 From: compustretch at gmail.com (Compustretch NewYork) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:55:24 -0700 Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <330532b60710021050q40b7ef3fr2231971255ef7311@mail.gmail.com> References: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <330532b60710021050q40b7ef3fr2231971255ef7311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4702B03C.6060800@gmail.com> Mitch Pirtle wrote: > On 10/2/07, Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > > > "The bar tactfully but firmly enforces a dress code, so jeans and > sneakers are a no-go." > > Bzzt! Thanks for playing. Next! > ____________________________________ 2nd that ! What is this, the UN? I do all my best work in jeans and sneakers... -Forest -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From compustretch at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 17:02:45 2007 From: compustretch at gmail.com (Compustretch NewYork) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:02:45 -0700 Subject: [joomla] After meeting hangout In-Reply-To: <330532b60710011828g7a0decb0x41c4cd14ff202c41@mail.gmail.com> References: <47015914.9020508@beezifies.com> <330532b60710011828g7a0decb0x41c4cd14ff202c41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4702B1F5.1050506@gmail.com> Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Guinness. You owe me a Guinness. Right. While we are on the subject, it should be understood that "!#/after/meeting/hangout" will not run without: "require Guinness; " ;-) Forest Mars -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 2 14:15:21 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:15:21 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Campbell Apts In-Reply-To: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47028AB9.4000403@beezifies.com> Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > Never been, but the Campbell Apartment sounds nice. > http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/11351464/new_york_ny/the_campbell_apartment.html > LOL, in fact I asked a couple of local friends yesterday for suggestions and one of them mentioned it was a very nice place he highly recommended. Than he mentioned that when he went there for a friends party he found out about their dress code because he was wearing a t-shirt and had to buy a shirt before he could enter. My guess was that of those interested in going, the majority won't want to adhere to such a requirement. :-) From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 14:30:00 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:30:00 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Campbell Apts In-Reply-To: <47028AB9.4000403@beezifies.com> References: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <47028AB9.4000403@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710021130y7939771eqcc2b8c39fc77b5bf@mail.gmail.com> On 10/2/07, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > > Never been, but the Campbell Apartment sounds nice. > > http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/11351464/new_york_ny/the_campbell_apartment.html > > > > > LOL, in fact I asked a couple of local friends yesterday for suggestions > and one of them mentioned it was a very nice place he highly > recommended. Than he mentioned that when he went there for a friends > party he found out about their dress code because he was wearing a > t-shirt and had to buy a shirt before he could enter. > > My guess was that of those interested in going, the majority won't want > to adhere to such a requirement. :-) I'm at a place where, uh, the dress code is, uh, relaxed. Like "purple hair and facial piercings" relaxed. If I showed up in Dockers, a Polo and some Hush Puppies, I'd never live it down. And even the best looking mug of Guinness ain't getting me to skate Times Square to Grand Central in that outfit. *spacemonkey shudders at the thought From cflists at netrenga.com Tue Oct 2 15:46:49 2007 From: cflists at netrenga.com (Chick Foxgrover) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:46:49 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Campbell Apts In-Reply-To: <330532b60710021130y7939771eqcc2b8c39fc77b5bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <47028AB9.4000403@beezifies.com> <330532b60710021130y7939771eqcc2b8c39fc77b5bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4702A029.8060809@netrenga.com> Hey! I object. Some of us love our HushPuppies. > in Dockers, a Polo > and some Hush Puppies, I'd never live it down. From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 15:53:37 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:53:37 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Campbell Apts In-Reply-To: <4702A029.8060809@netrenga.com> References: <124103.17774.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <47028AB9.4000403@beezifies.com> <330532b60710021130y7939771eqcc2b8c39fc77b5bf@mail.gmail.com> <4702A029.8060809@netrenga.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710021253u2a9618d7nbb9142d49e052580@mail.gmail.com> On 10/2/07, Chick Foxgrover wrote: > Hey! I object. Some of us love our HushPuppies. Well, if they make something like emericas in a skate model, I might reconsider. Until then, pfft. *spacemonkey holds up the hand I mean, you ever try to skate in those things? And if we haven't met, I wear a size 13. So stiff dress shoes in my size weigh about forty pounds. Each. (giggle) From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Thu Oct 4 14:22:03 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:22:03 -0400 Subject: [joomla] October 11th Meeting Message-ID: <47052F4B.3040705@beezifies.com> Please remember we need an RSVP for the meeting for security purposes. I will need your first and lastname, and you will need some form of photo id to get into the building. Website is still in progress. Date: October 11th 6PM to 8PM Location: Robert Half Technology 245 Park Avenue, 25th Fl. 46th - 47th St. (near grand central) After meeting hangout: local TGIF's unless unless someone comes up with a good idea that accepts scruffy programmers. Agenda: 6:00 - 6:20 - Gary Mort will provide a review of Community Builder, what features it allows you, where you need to expand it to create a true Community Site, etc. 6:20 - 6:40 - Laura Gordon will give an overview of 2 usefull Joomla Components. CBJuice, which allows for the import and export of user information from Community Builder, and JACL which allows you to grant more fine controlled user level access to Joomla components and Content. 6:45 to 7:15 - Mitch Pertle will discuss the future of JoomlaCities and it's first site, the NYC Joomla Cities site(coming soon). JoomlaCities goal is to allow for a centralized site to give regional Joomla User Groups a place to meet, discuss, and improve their knowledge. As well as a way to give back to the Joomla Community in general. 7:20 - 7:40 - Anthony Ferrara, author of PageCache for Joomla, will give a presentation on developing applications for Joomla. 7:40 - 8:00 - time permitting, Gary Mort will give a review of Template modification of a Commercial Template for a live Joomla site - including how you can develop your new template for an existing site on the live site. This is primarily an overview of the processes involved as well as the features of Joomla that make it easy to have 2 different looks for the same site at the same time(even with different module customizations) At the moment, you can RSVP to me directly at bz-gmort at beezifies.com, subject line "Joomla Meeting". From jphelps at clearmark.com Fri Oct 5 15:25:13 2007 From: jphelps at clearmark.com (jphelps) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:25:13 -0400 Subject: [joomla] RE: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 5 Message-ID: <000701c80785$75b24000$6601a8c0@JPToshiba> Any possibility of taping these sessions for later posting? Much as I'd like, meetings in CA prevent me from attending. -----Original Message----- From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org Sent: None To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Subject: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 5 Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. October 11th Meeting (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:22:03 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] October 11th Meeting To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <47052F4B.3040705 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Please remember we need an RSVP for the meeting for security purposes. I will need your first and lastname, and you will need some form of photo id to get into the building. Website is still in progress. Date: October 11th 6PM to 8PM Location: Robert Half Technology 245 Park Avenue, 25th Fl. 46th - 47th St. (near grand central) After meeting hangout: local TGIF's unless unless someone comes up with a good idea that accepts scruffy programmers. Agenda: 6:00 - 6:20 - Gary Mort will provide a review of Community Builder, what features it allows you, where you need to expand it to create a true Community Site, etc. 6:20 - 6:40 - Laura Gordon will give an overview of 2 usefull Joomla Components. CBJuice, which allows for the import and export of user information from Community Builder, and JACL which allows you to grant more fine controlled user level access to Joomla components and Content. 6:45 to 7:15 - Mitch Pertle will discuss the future of JoomlaCities and it's first site, the NYC Joomla Cities site(coming soon). JoomlaCities goal is to allow for a centralized site to give regional Joomla User Groups a place to meet, discuss, and improve their knowledge. As well as a way to give back to the Joomla Community in general. 7:20 - 7:40 - Anthony Ferrara, author of PageCache for Joomla, will give a presentation on developing applications for Joomla. 7:40 - 8:00 - time permitting, Gary Mort will give a review of Template modification of a Commercial Template for a live Joomla site - including how you can develop your new template for an existing site on the live site. This is primarily an overview of the processes involved as well as the features of Joomla that make it easy to have 2 different looks for the same site at the same time(even with different module customizations) At the moment, you can RSVP to me directly at bz-gmort at beezifies.com, subject line "Joomla Meeting". ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla at lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 5 ************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 5:03 PM From rolan at omnistep.com Fri Oct 5 15:44:10 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:44:10 -0400 Subject: [joomla] modules in mulitple positions Message-ID: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the front page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. Is there an easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a copy of the search module configure the second one for "right" or create a copy of the template and and apply it to the front page (swapping out positions for "top" and "right") but I'm wondering if there is an easier way...?? ~Rolan From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Fri Oct 5 17:38:47 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:38:47 -0400 Subject: [joomla] modules in mulitple positions In-Reply-To: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> References: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <4706AEE7.4050002@beezifies.com> Rolan Yang wrote: > I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the front > page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. Is there an > easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a copy of the search > module configure the second one for "right" or create a copy of the > template and and apply it to the front page (swapping out positions for > "top" and "right") but I'm wondering if there is an easier way...?? Are you using 1.0 or 1.5? Are you familiar with how to make collapsible modules? Generally, a collapsible module position is used when you want modules blocks to disappear when they are not published for a page. However, there are a couple of functions for Joomla that you can use to determine if you are on the frontpage or not. So using those functions, you could make the the two modules appear or diappear(assuming they are the only modules in those positions). IF you have multiple modules in those positions, what I would suggest is to use the function to set a variable in the template indicating front page or not. Than just use an if/then clause to load topA/topB and rightA/rightB Where A is where the module exists for that position, and B is where it is not(so you load topA/rightB or topB/rightA) From rolan at omnistep.com Fri Oct 5 21:20:11 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:20:11 -0400 Subject: [joomla] modules in mulitple positions In-Reply-To: <4706AEE7.4050002@beezifies.com> References: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> <4706AEE7.4050002@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <4706E2CB.1000404@omnistep.com> bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Rolan Yang wrote: >> I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the front >> page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. Is there >> an easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a copy of the >> search module configure the second one for "right" or create a copy >> of the template and and apply it to the front page (swapping out >> positions for "top" and "right") but I'm wondering if there is an >> easier way...?? > > Are you using 1.0 or 1.5? 1.0 > > Are you familiar with how to make collapsible modules? I think my template is collapsible (if there are no modules in the right position for that page, the main content will expand to fill the space) > > Generally, a collapsible module position is used when you want modules > blocks to disappear when they are not published for a page. > > However, there are a couple of functions for Joomla that you can use > to determine if you are on the frontpage or not. > > So using those functions, you could make the the two modules appear or > diappear(assuming they are the only modules in those positions). What I want is for a single module (the search module) to appear at the right position on the front page, and at the top for all the other pages. As far as I know, with Joomla 1.0, you can only specify a single position for the module. One idea was to duplicate the module but call it a different name. One would be positioned on the right (set to be visible only on the front page), the second module would be positioned on top and visible on every page other than the front. The second idea was to duplicate the template except switch the top and right positions in the template, then apply that modified template to front page only. Both ideas are hacks, but I think modifying a template to conditionally swap the top and right positions based on detection of the front page would be an even more extreme "hack" in that the template would be doing something unintuitive even by Joomla standards :) ~Rolan > > IF you have multiple modules in those positions, what I would suggest > is to use the function to set a variable in the template indicating > front page or not. > > Than just use an if/then clause to load topA/topB and rightA/rightB > > Where A is where the module exists for that position, and B is where > it is not(so you load topA/rightB or topB/rightA) > From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Sat Oct 6 10:37:15 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:37:15 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Local customizations of files Message-ID: <47079D9B.8010304@beezifies.com> At the last meeting Mitch mentioned something about making copies of some files(core Joomla files?) in a local directory and that files from the local directory will be loaded in preference to the originals(similiar to how Menalto Gallery works). Unfortunately, I wasn't in the room due to being late, so I didn't catch all that. Can Mitch or someone chime in and mention what types of files this can be used for and how it works? From rolan at omnistep.com Sat Oct 6 11:41:00 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:41:00 -0400 Subject: [joomla] modules in mulitple positions In-Reply-To: <4706E2CB.1000404@omnistep.com> References: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> <4706AEE7.4050002@beezifies.com> <4706E2CB.1000404@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <4707AC8C.5050805@omnistep.com> Rolan Yang wrote: > bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: >> Rolan Yang wrote: >>> I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the >>> front page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. Is >>> there an easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a copy of >>> the search module configure the second one for "right" or create a >>> copy of the template and and apply it to the front page (swapping >>> out positions for "top" and "right") but I'm wondering if there is >>> an easier way...?? What I ended up doing was duplicating the module like so: went into the /modules directory cp mod_search.php mod_search2.php cp mod_search.xml mod_search2.xml edited mod_search2.xml, search and replacing "mod_search" with "mod_search2" zip mod_search2.zip mod_search2 rm mod_search2* then through the admin interface of joomla, installed mod_search2.zip as a module. This allowed me to have identically functioning search modules, one configured to the "top" position and one at the "right". I configured the "top" one set to display on only the front page, and the "right" module displayed everywhere else. ~Rolan From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Sat Oct 6 11:58:26 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:58:26 -0400 Subject: [joomla] modules in mulitple positions In-Reply-To: <4707AC8C.5050805@omnistep.com> References: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> <4706AEE7.4050002@beezifies.com> <4706E2CB.1000404@omnistep.com> <4707AC8C.5050805@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <4707B0A2.1030709@beezifies.com> Rolan Yang wrote: > Rolan Yang wrote: >> bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: >>> Rolan Yang wrote: >>>> I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the >>>> front page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. Is >>>> there an easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a copy of >>>> the search module configure the second one for "right" or create a >>>> copy of the template and and apply it to the front page (swapping >>>> out positions for "top" and "right") but I'm wondering if there is >>>> an easier way...?? > What I ended up doing was duplicating the module like so: > > went into the /modules directory > cp mod_search.php mod_search2.php > cp mod_search.xml mod_search2.xml Why not just go to Site Modules in the Admin, click the checkbox next to the modules, and then click "copy". Than you will have 2 modules you can position and configure independently of each other that use the same code. You can even configure them seperately(for example, a module that displays the latest articles can be configured in one instance to show 3 articles and another to show 10) From rolan at omnistep.com Sat Oct 6 12:39:11 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:39:11 -0400 Subject: [joomla] modules in mulitple positions In-Reply-To: <4707B0A2.1030709@beezifies.com> References: <4706940A.30908@omnistep.com> <4706AEE7.4050002@beezifies.com> <4706E2CB.1000404@omnistep.com> <4707AC8C.5050805@omnistep.com> <4707B0A2.1030709@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <4707BA2F.3070407@omnistep.com> That's totally what I needed. Thanks! ~Rolan bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Rolan Yang wrote: >> Rolan Yang wrote: >>> bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: >>>> Rolan Yang wrote: >>>>> I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the >>>>> front page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. >>>>> Is there an easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a >>>>> copy of the search module configure the second one for "right" or >>>>> create a copy of the template and and apply it to the front page >>>>> (swapping out positions for "top" and "right") but I'm wondering >>>>> if there is an easier way...?? >> What I ended up doing was duplicating the module like so: >> >> went into the /modules directory >> cp mod_search.php mod_search2.php >> cp mod_search.xml mod_search2.xml > > > Why not just go to Site Modules in the Admin, click the checkbox next > to the modules, and then click "copy". > > Than you will have 2 modules you can position and configure > independently of each other that use the same code. You can even > configure them seperately(for example, a module that displays the > latest articles can be configured in one instance to show 3 articles > and another to show 10) > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From graham at nuthinwerked.com Sun Oct 7 20:38:45 2007 From: graham at nuthinwerked.com (Graham Spice) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:38:45 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Re: modules in mulitple positions Message-ID: <47097C15.90006@nuthinwerked.com> Making a duplicate module is the easiest solution here. You can also create different templates for different sections of the site and use the template manager to assign them to different menu links. Best- Graham joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: > That's totally what I needed. Thanks! > > ~Rolan > > bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > >> Rolan Yang wrote: >> >>> Rolan Yang wrote: >>> >>>> bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rolan Yang wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I want to place the search module in one position (top) for the >>>>>> front page, but place it at the "right" position for other pages. >>>>>> Is there an easy way to do this? I'm thinking I could create a >>>>>> copy of the search module configure the second one for "right" or >>>>>> create a copy of the template and and apply it to the front page >>>>>> (swapping out positions for "top" and "right") but I'm wondering >>>>>> if there is an easier way...?? >>>>>> >>> What I ended up doing was duplicating the module like so: >>> >>> went into the /modules directory >>> cp mod_search.php mod_search2.php >>> cp mod_search.xml mod_search2.xml >>> >> Why not just go to Site Modules in the Admin, click the checkbox next >> to the modules, and then click "copy". >> >> Than you will have 2 modules you can position and configure >> independently of each other that use the same code. You can even >> configure them seperately(for example, a module that displays the >> latest articles can be configured in one instance to show 3 articles >> and another to show 10) >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > joomla mailing list > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > End of joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 > ************************************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Mon Oct 8 07:09:06 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:09:06 -0400 Subject: [joomla] October 11th Meeting In-Reply-To: <47052F4B.3040705@beezifies.com> References: <47052F4B.3040705@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <470A0FD2.9020002@beezifies.com> A last minute substitution, since we have some speakers coming in from out of town, we will be bumping the Template presentation and replacing it with one on designing for Joomla 1.5 Jonah Braun from the Joomla! Security Task Force will present an overview of how to build a native Joomla 1.5 component using the MVC method. Good practices and common pitfalls will be discussed. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Mon Oct 8 08:53:30 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:53:30 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla at this weeks Dreamweavers NY meeting Message-ID: <470A284A.7070202@beezifies.com> FYI, this week at the Dreamweavers meeting there will be a presentation on open source frameworks including Joomla. Build a PHP/MySQL based Database-Driven Website Using an Open Source Framework with WordPress, Joomla, ZenCart or Drupal in less than an hour by Consultant Stephen Britton You can RSVP through the Dreamweavers NY website, http://dream.212917.com/ Their meeting is also hosted at Robert Half Technologies, so the same location for this Thursdays meeting is also used for their Wednesday meeting. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 12:02:05 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:02:05 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Meeting update Message-ID: <470BA5FD.9050604@beezifies.com> So far I have 21 RSVP's for the meeting. We can take up to another 19 without pushing the space, and than 10 more if we want to add in space at the back. I also have around 7 interested in hanging out after the meeting. For anyone familiar with bars/TGIF's in NYC I'm assuming that anything under a dozen should not require reservations?(especially since it's not like we're going for food or anything). Mainly I'm trying to gauge how much interest there is to see if I need to reserve space or not(sorry, bar hanging out is not really my thing. I tend to hang out at local B&N's or at times Starbucks in small groups. But I figure better to arrange things in advance than try to figure out what to do at the time.) I've got the name of 2 local bars from Gary B. over at Robert Half, so I'll check them out tomorrow before the Dreamweavers meeting and if they seem to have good space and such, we can go to one of them rather than walk a few blocks to TGIF's) From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 12:06:48 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:06:48 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace Message-ID: <470BA718.9040700@beezifies.com> I was wondering if anyone had suggestions/comments of what the cost of rackspace in NYC is? This is for a non-critical system, so network reliable must be relatively ok, but doesn't have to be fantastic drop dead performance and such. Mainly thinking about when it comes time for my next upgrade, is it better to buy hardware and rent rackspace, or rent a managed server or something. From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 12:18:19 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <470BA718.9040700@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <195654.41498.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, I've been looking at that myself. Here's what I've found... 1. NJColocation - By the MeadowLands in NJ - 1U server (1,300 GB traffic) $75 per month 2. CyberCon (in NY somewhere) - 1U server (500 GB traffic) $150 per month There were a few more, but they are on another computer, so I'll try to get you more tomorrow... --- bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had suggestions/comments > of what the cost of > rackspace in NYC is? > > This is for a non-critical system, so network > reliable must be > relatively ok, but doesn't have to be fantastic drop > dead performance > and such. > > Mainly thinking about when it comes time for my next > upgrade, is it > better to buy hardware and rent rackspace, or rent a > managed server or > something. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From ajai at bitblit.net Tue Oct 9 12:28:03 2007 From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <470BA718.9040700@beezifies.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had suggestions/comments of what the cost of > rackspace in NYC is? > > This is for a non-critical system, so network reliable must be > relatively ok, but doesn't have to be fantastic drop dead performance > and such. Do you want to colo your own box or rent one? For colo in the city, check out PiloSoft downtown (I have a 2U box down there). I think I pay $75/m. Lately, Ive been looking at virtual server solutions (managing your own hardware is not stress free). Im currently testing out a basic UML-based virtual server from linode.com (cheapest is $20/m). -- Aj. From lists at zaunere.com Tue Oct 9 12:31:38 2007 From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:31:38 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: References: <470BA718.9040700@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <036201c80a91$dd940460$671ba8c0@MobileZ> Ajai Khattri wrote on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:28 PM: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone had suggestions/comments of what the cost > > of rackspace in NYC is? > > > > This is for a non-critical system, so network reliable must be > > relatively ok, but doesn't have to be fantastic drop dead > > performance and such. > > Do you want to colo your own box or rent one? > > For colo in the city, check out PiloSoft downtown (I have a 2U box > down there). I think I pay $75/m. Gary, this is in fact where we met - I can get you in touch with Alex if you'd like (http://www.pilosoft.com). H From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 12:36:11 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <508242.703.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Pilosoft, that was one of the others I had looked up... They actually are not a bad deal at all. --- Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone had suggestions/comments > of what the cost of > > rackspace in NYC is? > > > > This is for a non-critical system, so network > reliable must be > > relatively ok, but doesn't have to be fantastic > drop dead performance > > and such. > > Do you want to colo your own box or rent one? > > For colo in the city, check out PiloSoft downtown (I > have a 2U box down > there). I think I pay $75/m. > > Lately, Ive been looking at virtual server solutions > (managing your own > hardware is not stress free). Im currently testing > out a basic UML-based > virtual server from linode.com (cheapest is $20/m). > > > > -- > Aj. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From lists at zaunere.com Tue Oct 9 12:37:44 2007 From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:37:44 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Meeting update In-Reply-To: <470BA5FD.9050604@beezifies.com> References: <470BA5FD.9050604@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <037201c80a92$b7fdddb0$671ba8c0@MobileZ> bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:02 PM: > So far I have 21 RSVP's for the meeting. We can take up to another 19 > without pushing the space, and than 10 more if we want to add in space > at the back. > > I also have around 7 interested in hanging out after the meeting. For > anyone familiar with bars/TGIF's in NYC I'm assuming that anything > under a dozen should not require reservations?(especially since it's > not like we're going for food or anything). Mainly I'm trying to > gauge how much interest there is to see if I need to reserve space or > not(sorry, bar hanging out is not really my thing. I tend to hang > out at local B&N's or at times Starbucks in small groups. But I > figure better to arrange things in advance than try to figure out > what to do at the time.) > > I've got the name of 2 local bars from Gary B. over at Robert Half, so > I'll check them out tomorrow before the Dreamweavers meeting and if > they seem to have good space and such, we can go to one of them > rather than walk a few blocks to TGIF's) The nice thing about TGIF (and the only reason we still go there after NYPHP general meetings) is that they typically have a lot of space around the bar, and can generally accomodate a dozen or more at tables if that's preferred. Some of these smaller bars, while nicer, don't take kindly to large unexpected crowds. H From lists at zaunere.com Tue Oct 9 12:38:59 2007 From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:38:59 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <508242.703.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <508242.703.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <037301c80a92$e48259b0$671ba8c0@MobileZ> Anthony Ferrara wrote on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM: > Pilosoft, that was one of the others I had looked > up... They actually are not a bad deal at all. They're good - and close friends... we have a lot of stuff here as well. H From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 12:45:43 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:45:43 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470BB037.2030201@beezifies.com> Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone had suggestions/comments of what the cost of >> rackspace in NYC is? >> >> This is for a non-critical system, so network reliable must be >> relatively ok, but doesn't have to be fantastic drop dead performance >> and such. > > Do you want to colo your own box or rent one? > Own a box, able to have multiple ip addresses. > For colo in the city, check out PiloSoft downtown (I have a 2U box down > there). I think I pay $75/m. Back when I was in Baltimore, it was too much trouble to try to colo a server(only place was difficult to get to). But it struck me in NYC, there must be tons of places with excess bandwidth/rackspace one could se4tup a simple server with. > Lately, Ive been looking at virtual server solutions (managing your own > hardware is not stress free). Im currently testing out a basic UML-based > virtual server from linode.com (cheapest is $20/m). I had a linnode for a while, it's pretty nice but their hard drive space sucks. Heck, just about all hard drive capacity is awful when you compare it to setting up your own system(mind you, there is a GOOD reason for it since they tend to go with high quality hard drives and such. Wheras, if all I need is cheap and I'm willing to take the possible downtime, roll your own hardware has it's advantages) From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 12:50:43 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:50:43 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <036201c80a91$dd940460$671ba8c0@MobileZ> References: <470BA718.9040700@beezifies.com> <036201c80a91$dd940460$671ba8c0@MobileZ> Message-ID: <470BB163.5000608@beezifies.com> > Gary, this is in fact where we met - I can get you in touch with Alex if > you'd like (http://www.pilosoft.com). Ahh, cool. Right now it's more a question of finding out what is around. Basically, I have to get in a dense urban mindset. Out in suburbia, the idea of owning my own server and doing remote maintenance is just a royal PITA. Especially as the uptime I require is a lot lower than industry standard(it's non mission critical). This means I can cheap out on the hardware and still be fine. The downside of cheaping out on the hardware is, of course, dealing with hardware failures. Remotely this would be a pain, but in a place like NYC, it's a simple matter to swing by, pick up an HD, swap the drives, and done. So now I want to get an idea of what the costs associated are to consider whether or not I want to go that route(yeah yeah, wasn't I just complaining last month about the headaches of setting this up? But now I'm looking at AIM bots again and I'm reminded that having a system with large HD capacity and the ability to run daemons has it's plusses) From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 12:57:49 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:57:49 -0400 Subject: [joomla] [OT] Question about NYC designers Message-ID: <330532b60710090957h2d6f0d96n559b47014763dfdf@mail.gmail.com> I was asked by several people after my presentation about designers in the NYC area, and thought I'd pimp a very conveniently-located event coming up: http://futureofwebdesign.com/ The FutureOf* series are awesome events, as I went to the FutureOfWebAdvertising earlier this year and really learned a lot (and enjoyed it too). If you go to this, you will meet all the big playaz as well as all the new kidz. :-) -- Mitch From rolan at omnistep.com Tue Oct 9 13:11:39 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:11:39 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <470BB163.5000608@beezifies.com> References: <470BA718.9040700@beezifies.com> <036201c80a91$dd940460$671ba8c0@MobileZ> <470BB163.5000608@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <470BB64B.1030403@omnistep.com> Check out the dedicated server specials at layeredtech.com At ($49/mo) it's possibly cheaper than a colo and you don't have to spend money for the hardware. I think if you pay one year in advance, there is an additional discount. I've had a mail server hosted there for the past 2 1/2 years without any problems. If you want to run your own server, but are not a fanatical security sysadmin, theplanet.com (formerly ev1servers.net, which was formerly rackshack.net) is a little bit more expensive, but they employ Tipping Point firewall, which, interestingly blocks application level attacks such as PHP include exploits, SQL injections, and other common vulnerabilities in popular apps such as PhpBB. I would not count on it to fully block all "0-day" exploits, but you might sleep better knowing that if you don't have time to immediately update PHPBB, your machine less likely to get hacked overnight :) ~Rolan bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: >> Gary, this is in fact where we met - I can get you in touch with Alex if >> you'd like (http://www.pilosoft.com). > > Ahh, cool. > > Right now it's more a question of finding out what is around. > > Basically, I have to get in a dense urban mindset. Out in suburbia, > the idea of owning my own server and doing remote maintenance is just > a royal PITA. Especially as the uptime I require is a lot lower than > industry standard(it's non mission critical). This means I can cheap > out on the hardware and still be fine. The downside of cheaping out > on the hardware is, of course, dealing with hardware failures. > Remotely this would be a pain, but in a place like NYC, it's a simple > matter to swing by, pick up an HD, swap the drives, and done. > > So now I want to get an idea of what the costs associated are to > consider whether or not I want to go that route(yeah yeah, wasn't I > just complaining last month about the headaches of setting this up? > But now I'm looking at AIM bots again and I'm reminded that having a > system with large HD capacity and the ability to run daemons has it's > plusses) > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From ajai at bitblit.net Tue Oct 9 13:53:36 2007 From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <470BB037.2030201@beezifies.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > I had a linnode for a while, it's pretty nice but their hard drive space > sucks. True, but unless your web app involves file uploads you dont need much space. Even for a virt domain mail server (which is what Im building), 8Gb is more then enough since Im not storing email long term on the server itself anyway. Also the ability to manage "hardware" upgrades from a web-based control panel is pretty neat. Im thinking the $80/m biggest linode package compares quite favorably to what Im running right now down at PiloSoft except Im spared the stress over buying hardware, building it and running it. I might eventually upgrade to the bigger packages if all goes well with my trial. > Heck, just about all hard drive capacity is awful when you > compare it to setting up your own system(mind you, there is a GOOD > reason for it since they tend to go with high quality hard drives and > such. Wheras, if all I need is cheap and I'm willing to take the > possible downtime, roll your own hardware has it's advantages) Ive ran my own servers for years and even though I spent a lot of money on really good, server-grade quality hardware Ive gotten tired of maintenance and worry. -- Aj. From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 14:10:50 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:10:50 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: References: <470BB037.2030201@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710091110r61abea56te058043a286fade0@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Ajai Khattri wrote: > Ive ran my own servers for years and even though I spent a lot of money on > really good, server-grade quality hardware Ive gotten tired of maintenance > and worry. I have a dual-proc P-II sitting in a box under my desk that cost me roughly $10,000 back when it first came out. It originally was a database server for a very high-traffic website. I hang on to it, as even while it is completely useless to me now, I simply cannot throw it away. Not anymore - I'm happy paying someone like ServerBeach.com to walk the hardware-treadmill while I move on to more important stuff. -- Mitch From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 14:34:03 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:34:03 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470BC99B.8080508@beezifies.com> Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > >> I had a linnode for a while, it's pretty nice but their hard drive space >> sucks. > > True, but unless your web app involves file uploads you dont need much > space. Even for a virt domain mail server (which is what Im building), 8Gb > is more then enough since Im not storing email long term on the server > itself anyway. Ha ha ha. Any server I use must host 2 things: My wife's family photo gallery My wifes email The only reason the photo gallery has not broken 1GB yet is because her digital camera is busted and she needs a new one. As for email..........let's just say my wife likes to talk. :-) From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 14:36:36 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:36:36 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <330532b60710091110r61abea56te058043a286fade0@mail.gmail.com> References: <470BB037.2030201@beezifies.com> <330532b60710091110r61abea56te058043a286fade0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470BCA34.3000307@beezifies.com> Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Not anymore - I'm happy paying someone like ServerBeach.com to walk > the hardware-treadmill while I move on to more important stuff. After looking over the various suggestions...it looks like there really is no point in having my own hardware, the cost difference between dedicated and rack space is almost nothing. I suppose if my wife get's a new digital camera and starts taking videos, I might need my own hardware to hit that Terabyte diskspace cheaply.... hmm.... Now that I think about it, she probably will be getting one in the next few months before the baby comes. From ajai at bitblit.net Tue Oct 9 15:02:42 2007 From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <470BC99B.8080508@beezifies.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > The only reason the photo gallery has not broken 1GB yet is because her > digital camera is busted and she needs a new one. Id rather pay $30/yr for flickr. > As for email..........let's just say my wife likes to talk. :-) Switch IMAP and use POP3 only :-) -- Aj. From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 15:31:57 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <470BCA34.3000307@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <24467.35673.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh this is not true... Take my example... I run a Dual Xeon 2.4Ghz server with 2GB Ram and dual 36 GB SCSI RAID 1. Plus I get 1.3 TB bandwidth over a 100 mbit port. Now, I paid $700 for the server, and $50 per month. The same server would cost me AT LEAST $150 per month (prob more like $250, but lets look at the cheapest)... So, after 1 year, it saves me $500. After that, I save $1,200 per year by using my own hardware... That's not a small amount... --- bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Mitch Pirtle wrote: > > Not anymore - I'm happy paying someone like > ServerBeach.com to walk > > the hardware-treadmill while I move on to more > important stuff. > > After looking over the various suggestions...it > looks like there really > is no point in having my own hardware, the cost > difference between > dedicated and rack space is almost nothing. > > I suppose if my wife get's a new digital camera and > starts taking > videos, I might need my own hardware to hit that > Terabyte diskspace > cheaply.... hmm.... Now that I think about it, she > probably will be > getting one in the next few months before the baby > comes. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 9 15:37:43 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:37:43 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <24467.35673.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <24467.35673.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <470BD887.50006@beezifies.com> Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Oh this is not true... Take my example... I run a Dual > Xeon 2.4Ghz server with 2GB Ram and dual 36 GB SCSI > RAID 1. Plus I get 1.3 TB bandwidth over a 100 mbit > port. > > I guess it depends on what your looking for. If your looking at the low end, the difference between space and a low end server is 5-10$/month. Then if you upgrade to the high end, the cost benefits are in owning rather than renting. From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 15:50:30 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:50:30 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <24467.35673.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <470BCA34.3000307@beezifies.com> <24467.35673.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710091250i4df0d764u4dbbee45a6861ada@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Now, I paid $700 for the server, and $50 per month. Tip o' the hat to you for getting that machine for $700, I don't think I can, with that configuration. But I haven't bought intel hardware since 1998, so you can't consider me current in "PC shopping". > So, after 1 year, it saves me $500. After that, I > save $1,200 per year by using my own hardware... > That's not a small amount... I got a dual Athlon for $217/mo, and each year I retire it and upgrade to the next biggest thing - first dual Athlons, then dual Opterons, will most likely be 64-bit Opterons this spring when I make the switcheroo. And it costs me nothing, as I'm turning one server on while decommissioning the old. No way I'm getting that kind of hardware for $700/year. For me, the difference is I'm not physically required to deal with making the switch, or managing hardware upgrades or maintenance. With commodity hardware this is a bigger effort than the expensive commercial stuff of yesteryear... Factor in the time you spend doing it yourself, and then try to assign a value to your time - how important it would be if you could have spent that time doing something else. As a small business owner, that is a critical consideration as effort/time often outweigh cost. If it saves you time, chances are it will also allow you to make more money. Feel free to tell me where you shop though! I got a stinky old HP (ubuntu) workstation at home that needs replacing :-) -- Mitch From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 15:57:40 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <330532b60710091250i4df0d764u4dbbee45a6861ada@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39030.43841.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I do all my shopping off of EBay. I do only IBM servers... I have 3 X335 (dual 1U P4 Xeon, Hardware RAID 1 x2 SCSI), 2 X345 (Dual 1U P4 Xeon, Hardware RAID 5 x6 SCSI drives), and am contemplating getting a x336 (newer 335)... --- Mitch Pirtle wrote: > On 10/9/07, Anthony Ferrara > wrote: > > Now, I paid $700 for the server, and $50 per > month. > > Tip o' the hat to you for getting that machine for > $700, I don't think > I can, with that configuration. But I haven't bought > intel hardware > since 1998, so you can't consider me current in "PC > shopping". > > > So, after 1 year, it saves me $500. After that, I > > save $1,200 per year by using my own hardware... > > That's not a small amount... > > I got a dual Athlon for $217/mo, and each year I > retire it and upgrade > to the next biggest thing - first dual Athlons, then > dual Opterons, > will most likely be 64-bit Opterons this spring when > I make the > switcheroo. And it costs me nothing, as I'm turning > one server on > while decommissioning the old. No way I'm getting > that kind of > hardware for $700/year. > > For me, the difference is I'm not physically > required to deal with > making the switch, or managing hardware upgrades or > maintenance. With > commodity hardware this is a bigger effort than the > expensive > commercial stuff of yesteryear... > > Factor in the time you spend doing it yourself, and > then try to assign > a value to your time - how important it would be if > you could have > spent that time doing something else. As a small > business owner, that > is a critical consideration as effort/time often > outweigh cost. If it > saves you time, chances are it will also allow you > to make more money. > > Feel free to tell me where you shop though! I got a > stinky old HP > (ubuntu) workstation at home that needs replacing > :-) > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 16:20:35 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:20:35 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Rackspace In-Reply-To: <39030.43841.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <330532b60710091250i4df0d764u4dbbee45a6861ada@mail.gmail.com> <39030.43841.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710091320r78ac1742qae01ebc4cd8f172d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > I do all my shopping off of EBay. I do only IBM > servers... I have 3 X335 (dual 1U P4 Xeon, Hardware > RAID 1 x2 SCSI), 2 X345 (Dual 1U P4 Xeon, Hardware > RAID 5 x6 SCSI drives), and am contemplating getting a > x336 (newer 335)... I'm still scared of the xeons and the context switching issues they had in the past with certain chipsets. For some reason they really cause havoc with postgresql, which is a fave of mine - so for me no xeon :-) -- Mitch, trying to tie this back to joomla somehow *giggle* From rolan at omnistep.com Wed Oct 10 15:21:54 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:21:54 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Good one today on xkcd Message-ID: <470D2652.8010804@omnistep.com> http://xkcd.com/327/ ~Rolan From sachikogoodyear at yahoo.com Thu Oct 11 11:53:10 2007 From: sachikogoodyear at yahoo.com (Sachiko Goodyear) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Drinks after tonight's meeting Message-ID: <410883.75864.qm@web55514.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm going to pass on drinks tonight. See you at the meeting. Sachiko Goodyear Director of Technology-based Learning Goodyear Learning, LLC http://www.goodyearlearning.com ph: 201-349-5862 --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Thu Oct 11 12:22:20 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:22:20 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla meeting confirmation sent Message-ID: <470E4DBC.3070608@beezifies.com> I just emailed out a midday confirmation for the Joomla meeting. Of my current 30 RSVP's I'm missing email addresses for 3 people - so if you did not get an email and your first name is Laura, Jonathon, or Forest your probably on my list I just didn't have your address. In any case, if you did not receive a confirmation, email me and I will add you to the list. From li_gordon at yahoo.com Thu Oct 11 13:27:19 2007 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Joomla meeting confirmation sent In-Reply-To: <470E4DBC.3070608@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <314105.77305.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If it's me I am Laura Gordon, li_gordon at yahoo.com My cousin will be joining me: Mark Goldhammer thanks, Laura bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: I just emailed out a midday confirmation for the Joomla meeting. Of my current 30 RSVP's I'm missing email addresses for 3 people - so if you did not get an email and your first name is Laura, Jonathon, or Forest your probably on my list I just didn't have your address. In any case, if you did not receive a confirmation, email me and I will add you to the list. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php --------------------------------- http://www.rytechmemories.com Create Beautiful movies for your family Create dynamic websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 17:07:23 2007 From: compustretch at gmail.com (Compustretch NewYork) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:07:23 -0700 Subject: [joomla] Joomla meeting confirmation sent In-Reply-To: <470E4DBC.3070608@beezifies.com> References: <470E4DBC.3070608@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <470E908B.3030305@gmail.com> bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > I just emailed out a midday confirmation for the Joomla meeting. Of > my current 30 RSVP's I'm missing email addresses for 3 people - so if > you did not get an email and your first name is Laura, Jonathon, or > Forest your probably on my list I just didn't have your address. That would be me. I am planning on attending-- will it be in the NYPHP offices again? -Forest M 212 228 2882 > > In any case, if you did not receive a confirmation, email me and I > will add you to the list. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > Forest Mars -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From compustretch at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 17:08:31 2007 From: compustretch at gmail.com (Compustretch NewYork) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:08:31 -0700 Subject: [joomla] Joomla meeting confirmation sent In-Reply-To: <470E4DBC.3070608@beezifies.com> References: <470E4DBC.3070608@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <470E90CF.9050107@gmail.com> Sorry for the list send, meant that for Gary. -Forest -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Fri Oct 12 08:06:04 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Slideshow from last nights meeting In-Reply-To: <470E90CF.9050107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <40081.4993.qm@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As promised, here's the slide show from last night. If anyone wants the source I used, let me know and I'll send it out as well... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. 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Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php --------------------------------- http://www.rytechmemories.com Create Beautiful movies for your family Create dynamic websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 20:23:00 2007 From: compustretch at gmail.com (Compustretch NewYork) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:23:00 -0700 Subject: [joomla] JoomlaDayEast and nagging session redirect question In-Reply-To: <00b901c7d2e1$86ede280$651ba8c0@MobileZ> References: <20070730193904.30562.qmail@vps183.dancevenue.nl> <00b901c7d2e1$86ede280$651ba8c0@MobileZ> Message-ID: <47140464.4090702@gmail.com> Well JoomlaDayEast was pretty fun, and even informative too. Someone took pictures at the end not sure what they were for. Hopefully the 2 Joomla user groups websites will be posted shortly, yes...? Funny thing is, no one there was able to figure out the one question I had, involving Joomla php sessions and browser redirects. I have a number of Joomla 1.0.12 sites up and running and they all work fine, except for one of them. This one keeps generating browser errors. In Firefox it says it detected an infinite redirect ("in a way that can never be completed") while in Opera, it just says its been redirected and you have to click the redirect link that Opera generates. When the page does open it has the session ID appended to the URL like so: http://myjoomalsite.com/?de17e6e8. Finally, if you are on any subpage in the Jomla site, if you refresh the page it kicks you out to the main index.php. Frustrated I blew out the whole root directory and reinstalled Joomla from scratch. Unfortunately it is still exhibiting all of the above session weirdness. I did import the old database, so one might infer that's where the problem is. But where? And moreover how to solve it? I was kind of expecting the event billed as JoomlaDayEast to be a day for developers, but they were few and far between on Saturday. Not that it wasn't fun, but when you are trying to get the kinks out of something like this, it was just a little frustrating to have so few people there with any real php (or sql) experience. If anyone on the list has some ideas on figuring this out, I would be very appreciative. cheers, Forest M. -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 18:04:56 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] JoomlaDayEast and nagging session redirect question In-Reply-To: <47140464.4090702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46444.93671.qm@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, those pictures are up at joomlanyc.org... --- Compustretch NewYork wrote: > Well JoomlaDayEast was pretty fun, and even > informative too. Someone > took pictures at the end not sure what they were > for. > Hopefully the 2 Joomla user groups websites will be > posted shortly, yes...? > > Funny thing is, no one there was able to figure out > the one question I > had, involving Joomla php sessions and browser > redirects. I have a > number of Joomla 1.0.12 sites up and running and > they all work fine, > except for one of them. This one keeps generating > browser errors. In > Firefox it says it detected an infinite redirect > ("in a way that can > never be completed") while in Opera, it just says > its been redirected > and you have to click the redirect link that Opera > generates. When the > page does open it has the session ID appended to the > URL like so: > http://myjoomalsite.com/?de17e6e8. Finally, if you > are on any subpage in > the Jomla site, if you refresh the page it kicks you > out to the main > index.php. > > Frustrated I blew out the whole root directory and > reinstalled Joomla > from scratch. Unfortunately it is still exhibiting > all of the above > session weirdness. I did import the old database, so > one might infer > that's where the problem is. But where? And moreover > how to solve it? > > I was kind of expecting the event billed as > JoomlaDayEast to be a day > for developers, but they were few and far between on > Saturday. Not that > it wasn't fun, but when you are trying to get the > kinks out of something > like this, it was just a little frustrating to have > so few people there > with any real php (or sql) experience. > > If anyone on the list has some ideas on figuring > this out, I would be > very appreciative. > > cheers, > > Forest M. > > > > -- > "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the > same. > In practice, they're completely different." > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch > Support new domains & keep free media free! Register > yours today! > https://secure.name-space.com/registry > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network > Associates, Inc. and > its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only > version) > > iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra > 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn > =MLhk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Mon Oct 15 19:31:53 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:31:53 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JoomlaDayEast and nagging session redirect question In-Reply-To: <47140464.4090702@gmail.com> References: <20070730193904.30562.qmail@vps183.dancevenue.nl> <00b901c7d2e1$86ede280$651ba8c0@MobileZ> <47140464.4090702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4713F869.3030702@beezifies.com> Compustretch NewYork wrote: > Funny thing is, no one there was able to figure out the one question I > had, involving Joomla php sessions and browser redirects. I have a > number of Joomla 1.0.12 sites up and running and they all work fine, > except for one of them. This one keeps generating browser errors. In > Firefox it says it detected an infinite redirect ("in a way that can > never be completed") while in Opera, it just says its been redirected > and you have to click the redirect link that Opera generates. Sounds like: 1) Your site name and the server name don't match and a cookie isn't getting set properly. 2) Your htaccess file is mucked up from heck and needs to be reset 3) You've got a mucked up CB config 4) You have a mucked up artiosef(or some other sef) config. I recall when I moved a system with artiosef installed, I had to reconfigure it manually in order to get it working since it pointed to some old configs/ Kind of hard to tell which, if any, of these it is just from a problem description though. From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Tue Oct 16 12:23:51 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] JoomlaPerformance's New Tool In-Reply-To: <4713F869.3030702@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <737466.38416.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Remember the webpage optimizer? That wonderful tool that showed you how many images (and what size) your page had? Well, JoomlaPerformance has come out with a new and improved version! Completely written from scratch, I added a few features I though were completely lacking from the origional... One of which is benchmarking the server (not just the HTML)! It also gives you the true time it took to complete each request (just as a user would experience). No more poor estimates of download times... Check out the Performance Grader at Joomla Performance.com (it's under tools), or at http://www.joomlaperformance.com/component/option,com_performance/Itemid,52/ --- bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Compustretch NewYork wrote: > > Funny thing is, no one there was able to figure > out the one question I > > had, involving Joomla php sessions and browser > redirects. I have a > > number of Joomla 1.0.12 sites up and running and > they all work fine, > > except for one of them. This one keeps generating > browser errors. In > > Firefox it says it detected an infinite redirect > ("in a way that can > > never be completed") while in Opera, it just says > its been redirected > > and you have to click the redirect link that Opera > generates. > > > Sounds like: > 1) Your site name and the server name don't match > and a cookie isn't > getting set properly. > > 2) Your htaccess file is mucked up from heck and > needs to be reset > > 3) You've got a mucked up CB config > > 4) You have a mucked up artiosef(or some other sef) > config. I recall > when I moved a system with artiosef installed, I had > to reconfigure it > manually in order to get it working since it pointed > to some old configs/ > > Kind of hard to tell which, if any, of these it is > just from a problem > description though. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 16 16:55:32 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:55:32 -0400 Subject: [joomla] November Pre-Announcment Message-ID: <47152544.4060308@beezifies.com> Here is a pre-announcment. I still need to make some changes(add the address, put some mapquest/hopstop links, flesh out the agenda, etc) ------------------------- Our next meeting will be November 8th, the second Thursday in November. Meeting location is Robert Half Technology, right next to Grand Central Meeting time will be 6:00 to 8:15. All JUG meetings are free and open to the public. RSVP's are required for security purposes, and you will need to have a photo id with your name on it in order to get into the building. The first half hour will be set aside to talk about what Joomla is, what it can be used for, demonstrations of a Joomla site, and a question and answer session for anyone struggling with Joomla. NYC JUG Demo site(s) - we will be providing one or more sandbox joomla setups where people who attend the meetings can log on to a demo site and try our various aspects of Joomla, template design, component installations, etc. Presentations: Donna Marie Vincent will be discussing extentions she has used on actual sites, installation, configuration and what solutions they provided her. Laura Gordon will be talking about Joomla sites and solutions. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 16 16:57:56 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:57:56 -0400 Subject: [joomla] November Pre-Announcment In-Reply-To: <47152544.4060308@beezifies.com> References: <47152544.4060308@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <471525D4.8000301@beezifies.com> Follow up, Feel free to email me your RSVP now, once the system is in place I will go through and add all the RSVP's into the system. From dan at muchospanish.com Tue Oct 16 19:04:52 2007 From: dan at muchospanish.com (Dan) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:04:52 -0400 Subject: [joomla] November Pre-Announcment In-Reply-To: <471525D4.8000301@beezifies.com> References: <47152544.4060308@beezifies.com> <471525D4.8000301@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <5A00ABA0-FFF8-44F3-A4CA-0E328E5E1DCA@muchospanish.com> Hi, Gary I'll be there! Dan dan at muchospanish.com On Oct 16, 2007, at 4:57 PM, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Follow up, > > Feel free to email me your RSVP now, once the system is in place I > will go through and add all the RSVP's into the system. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Wed Oct 17 08:07:56 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:07:56 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JUG library Message-ID: <4715FB1C.8080401@beezifies.com> Would anyone be interested in a NYC JUG library? The condition of usage would be to review the book, so I can bring books from the JUG library(if their hardcopy) to the meetings for people to pick up who are interested in reviewing the book, you can take them home with you and review the book, and when your done either bring it to the next meeting to drop off, mail it back to me, or mail it to the next person on the list who wants it. To start with, I have a few Joomla books from Packt Publishing that I'm done with and can donate, and if there is interest I can get review copies of books from both the Packt and O'Reilly UG support networks. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Wed Oct 17 09:31:38 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:31:38 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Paypal Developer Day Message-ID: <47160EBA.4010900@beezifies.com> I just received an email announcement that Paypal will be holding 2 developer day presentations(9AM to 5PM) in New York. One in Brooklyn on November 8th, and one in Manhattan on November 9th. It's a free all day presentation, plus you can take their "certification" exam for free at the event(whatever that means). I don't have a direct link to the event(or rather, my direct link emailed to me is tied to my Paypal account) so if your interested you will need to sign up for their developer network and than look for the announcement on their site. From rolan at omnistep.com Wed Oct 17 10:25:16 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:25:16 -0400 Subject: [joomla] $5 securid authentication hack Message-ID: <47161B4C.1030505@omnistep.com> At the Joomla Day during the security breakout session, the discussion drifted towards various methods of login authentication. The topic of SecurId was mentioned as being an expensive alternative. I just noticed today that Paypal is offering a SecurId keychain fob for $5. It would be simple to write a small php authentication function which acted as a proxy to paypal, accepting an email, password, and securId code, sending a off a https request, parsing the response and returning an TRUE or FALSE authenticated result. One caveat: if your website security is compromised, any paypal information submitted could be divulged, so if you plan to test this in an insecure environment, it's best for users to open up a new unfunded paypal account not linked to any bank. I'll post some sample code when my Paypal securId arrives in the mail :) ~Rolan From rolan at omnistep.com Wed Oct 17 10:26:46 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:26:46 -0400 Subject: [joomla] $5 securid authentication hack In-Reply-To: <47161B4C.1030505@omnistep.com> References: <47161B4C.1030505@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <47161BA6.7070602@omnistep.com> Shame on me. Forgot to include the link: https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/securitycenter/general/PPSecurityKey ~Rolan From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 10:37:44 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] $5 securid authentication hack In-Reply-To: <47161BA6.7070602@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <476507.16950.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've been using that for a while... I wouldn't use that for remote auth on a site tho (outside of paypal)... What I could see happening, is using one of them against a remote auth server (not tied to paypal. So you enter your username, and the output of the fob. Then, it sends that to the remote server, which tests and auths the user... Single Sign On at its best (and secure)... --- Rolan Yang wrote: > Shame on me. Forgot to include the link: > https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/securitycenter/general/PPSecurityKey > > ~Rolan > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Wed Oct 17 10:58:52 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:58:52 -0400 Subject: [joomla] 5$ secureid authentication hack Message-ID: <4716232C.7010802@beezifies.com> Rolan Yang wrote: > At the Joomla Day during the security breakout session, the discussion drifted towards various methods of login authentication. The topic of SecurId was mentioned as being an expensive alternative. I just noticed today that Paypal is offering a SecurId keychain fob for $5. It would be simple to write a small php authentication function which acted as a proxy to paypal, accepting an email, password, and securId code, sending a off a https request, parsing the response and returning an TRUE or FALSE authenticated result. > As an alternate method of doing security, you could use the SecurID and perform a payment process to verify the logon. IE, someone goes to your website and clicks on a Secure Logon link. Your site directs them over to make a Paypal "purchase" of 1 cent. They logon to Paypal, using their userd, password, and secureid keychain(if they so desire). The payment is processed and Paypal returns them to your website. You verify the payment and grab their paypal account email address to verify the account they are logging into. The downside of this is every logon costs a few cents(the 1 cent fee, plus Paypal minimum fees on you). The upside is that even if your website is completely compromised, the only paypal id that is compromised is the one used to accept payments. All the other logons occur on Paypal's site so you never capture userids or passwords(well, ok, you capture userids since paypal uses the email address. But you won't get their passwords.) From jonathan at slivko.org Wed Oct 17 11:22:05 2007 From: jonathan at slivko.org (Jonathan M. Slivko) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:22:05 -0400 Subject: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack In-Reply-To: <47161B4C.1030505@omnistep.com> References: <47161B4C.1030505@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <000601c810d1$79f137c0$6dd3a740$@org> Do we know if there's an API of sorts for "official" 3rd party integration? -- Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Rolan Yang [mailto:rolan at omnistep.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:25 AM To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Cc: jonathan at slivko.org Subject: $5 securid authentication hack At the Joomla Day during the security breakout session, the discussion drifted towards various methods of login authentication. The topic of SecurId was mentioned as being an expensive alternative. I just noticed today that Paypal is offering a SecurId keychain fob for $5. It would be simple to write a small php authentication function which acted as a proxy to paypal, accepting an email, password, and securId code, sending a off a https request, parsing the response and returning an TRUE or FALSE authenticated result. One caveat: if your website security is compromised, any paypal information submitted could be divulged, so if you plan to test this in an insecure environment, it's best for users to open up a new unfunded paypal account not linked to any bank. I'll post some sample code when my Paypal securId arrives in the mail :) ~Rolan From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 11:28:28 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack In-Reply-To: <000601c810d1$79f137c0$6dd3a740$@org> Message-ID: <685057.57496.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If I saw this on a site, I would laugh, and close the browser... I'm not inputing PayPal info into a 3pd website... What I am sugesting is creating a SSO website, where you order a "Fob", and it has the API... So you log in to that site (without a password), and it authenticates you against that remote SSO server... --- "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > Do we know if there's an API of sorts for "official" > 3rd party integration? > -- Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rolan Yang [mailto:rolan at omnistep.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:25 AM > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Cc: jonathan at slivko.org > Subject: $5 securid authentication hack > > At the Joomla Day during the security breakout > session, the discussion > drifted towards various methods of login > authentication. The topic of > SecurId was mentioned as being an expensive > alternative. I just noticed > today that Paypal is offering a SecurId keychain fob > for $5. It would be > simple to write a small php authentication function > which acted as a > proxy to paypal, accepting an email, password, and > securId code, sending > a off a https request, parsing the response and > returning an TRUE or > FALSE authenticated result. > > One caveat: if your website security is > compromised, any paypal > information submitted could be divulged, so if you > plan to test this in > an insecure environment, it's best for users to open > up a new unfunded > paypal account not linked to any bank. > > I'll post some sample code when my Paypal securId > arrives in the mail :) > > ~Rolan > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jonathan at slivko.org Wed Oct 17 11:33:15 2007 From: jonathan at slivko.org (Jonathan M. Slivko) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:33:15 -0400 Subject: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack In-Reply-To: <685057.57496.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <000601c810d1$79f137c0$6dd3a740$@org> <685057.57496.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c810d3$097efc00$1c7cf400$@org> .... I mean while taking PayPal out of the loop. -- Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Ferrara Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:28 AM To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: Re: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack If I saw this on a site, I would laugh, and close the browser... I'm not inputing PayPal info into a 3pd website... What I am sugesting is creating a SSO website, where you order a "Fob", and it has the API... So you log in to that site (without a password), and it authenticates you against that remote SSO server... --- "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > Do we know if there's an API of sorts for "official" > 3rd party integration? > -- Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rolan Yang [mailto:rolan at omnistep.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:25 AM > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Cc: jonathan at slivko.org > Subject: $5 securid authentication hack > > At the Joomla Day during the security breakout > session, the discussion > drifted towards various methods of login > authentication. The topic of > SecurId was mentioned as being an expensive > alternative. I just noticed > today that Paypal is offering a SecurId keychain fob > for $5. It would be > simple to write a small php authentication function > which acted as a > proxy to paypal, accepting an email, password, and > securId code, sending > a off a https request, parsing the response and > returning an TRUE or > FALSE authenticated result. > > One caveat: if your website security is > compromised, any paypal > information submitted could be divulged, so if you > plan to test this in > an insecure environment, it's best for users to open > up a new unfunded > paypal account not linked to any bank. > > I'll post some sample code when my Paypal securId > arrives in the mail :) > > ~Rolan > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From rolan at omnistep.com Wed Oct 17 11:38:16 2007 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:38:16 -0400 Subject: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack In-Reply-To: <685057.57496.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <685057.57496.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47162C68.3060605@omnistep.com> Anthony Ferrara wrote: > If I saw this on a site, I would laugh, and close the > browser... I'm not inputing PayPal info into a 3pd > website... What I am sugesting is creating a SSO > website, where you order a "Fob", and it has the > API... So you log in to that site (without a > password), and it authenticates you against that > remote SSO server... > --- "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > This hack was not meant to be widely adopted, but instead a cheap proof of concept (emphasis on "cheap") possibly providing an added level of 2 factor protection for important accounts such as the "master joomla admin" or for a few close friends. It's essentially leeching the services off Paypal's securId servers. ~Rolan From klas9574 at msn.com Wed Oct 17 12:12:32 2007 From: klas9574 at msn.com (Scott Klassen) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:12:32 -0500 Subject: [joomla] Holiday themed template In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: By chance can anyone recommend a good three panel template for Holloween. Preferably free of course. :) Thanks, Scott Klassen -----Original Message----- From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:01 AM To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Subject: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17 Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: RE: $5 securid authentication hack (Jonathan M. Slivko) 2. Re: RE: $5 securid authentication hack (Rolan Yang) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:33:15 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Subject: RE: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" Message-ID: <000001c810d3$097efc00$1c7cf400$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" .... I mean while taking PayPal out of the loop. -- Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Ferrara Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:28 AM To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: Re: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack If I saw this on a site, I would laugh, and close the browser... I'm not inputing PayPal info into a 3pd website... What I am sugesting is creating a SSO website, where you order a "Fob", and it has the API... So you log in to that site (without a password), and it authenticates you against that remote SSO server... --- "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > Do we know if there's an API of sorts for "official" > 3rd party integration? > -- Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rolan Yang [mailto:rolan at omnistep.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:25 AM > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Cc: jonathan at slivko.org > Subject: $5 securid authentication hack > > At the Joomla Day during the security breakout > session, the discussion > drifted towards various methods of login > authentication. The topic of > SecurId was mentioned as being an expensive > alternative. I just noticed > today that Paypal is offering a SecurId keychain fob > for $5. It would be > simple to write a small php authentication function > which acted as a > proxy to paypal, accepting an email, password, and > securId code, sending > a off a https request, parsing the response and > returning an TRUE or > FALSE authenticated result. > > One caveat: if your website security is > compromised, any paypal > information submitted could be divulged, so if you > plan to test this in > an insecure environment, it's best for users to open > up a new unfunded > paypal account not linked to any bank. > > I'll post some sample code when my Paypal securId > arrives in the mail :) > > ~Rolan > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:38:16 -0400 From: Rolan Yang Subject: Re: [joomla] RE: $5 securid authentication hack To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <47162C68.3060605 at omnistep.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anthony Ferrara wrote: > If I saw this on a site, I would laugh, and close the > browser... I'm not inputing PayPal info into a 3pd > website... What I am sugesting is creating a SSO > website, where you order a "Fob", and it has the > API... So you log in to that site (without a > password), and it authenticates you against that > remote SSO server... > --- "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > This hack was not meant to be widely adopted, but instead a cheap proof of concept (emphasis on "cheap") possibly providing an added level of 2 factor protection for important accounts such as the "master joomla admin" or for a few close friends. It's essentially leeching the services off Paypal's securId servers. ~Rolan ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla at lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17 ************************************** From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 14:03:00 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Holiday themed template In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <330532b60710171103r5ba7ad71y8610c8fb2ee3579f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/17/07, Scott Klassen wrote: > By chance can anyone recommend a good three panel template for Holloween. > Preferably free of course. :) You should check out the templates in the Joomla 1.5 template contest. They are all required to be GPL compatible, and there are several black-and-orange designs that are quite, er, halloweeny. -- Mitch, struggling to keep a straight face From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 14:31:13 2007 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Paypal Developer Day Message-ID: <456729.96802.qm@web35609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The URL is www.paypal.com/developerday ----- Original Message ---- From: "bz-gmort at beezifies.com" To: Joomla ; NYPHP Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:31:38 AM Subject: [joomla] Paypal Developer Day I just received an email announcement that Paypal will be holding 2 developer day presentations(9AM to 5PM) in New York. One in Brooklyn on November 8th, and one in Manhattan on November 9th. It's a free all day presentation, plus you can take their "certification" exam for free at the event(whatever that means). I don't have a direct link to the event(or rather, my direct link emailed to me is tied to my Paypal account) so if your interested you will need to sign up for their developer network and than look for the announcement on their site. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leam at reuel.net Wed Oct 17 17:24:49 2007 From: leam at reuel.net (leam) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:24:49 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JUG library In-Reply-To: <4715FB1C.8080401@beezifies.com> References: <4715FB1C.8080401@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <1192656289.3064.2.camel@leam> I just mentioned Joomla in an Amazon/OReilly review I did for "Learning PHP and MySQL", should bring millions of developers in! :) Leam On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 08:07 -0400, bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > Would anyone be interested in a NYC JUG library? > > The condition of usage would be to review the book, so I can bring books > from the JUG library(if their hardcopy) to the meetings for people to > pick up who are interested in reviewing the book, you can take them home > with you and review the book, and when your done either bring it to the > next meeting to drop off, mail it back to me, or mail it to the next > person on the list who wants it. > > To start with, I have a few Joomla books from Packt Publishing that I'm > done with and can donate, and if there is interest I can get review > copies of books from both the Packt and O'Reilly UG support networks. From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 17:59:02 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] JUG library In-Reply-To: <1192656289.3064.2.camel@leam> Message-ID: <537847.84074.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I like the OReilly books. I have 2, Tips And Tricks for MySQL, and the same for PHP. Great reference for oddball tactics that you rarely use... --- leam wrote: > I just mentioned Joomla in an Amazon/OReilly review > I did for "Learning > PHP and MySQL", should bring millions of developers > in! :) > > Leam > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 08:07 -0400, > bz-gmort at beezifies.com wrote: > > Would anyone be interested in a NYC JUG library? > > > > The condition of usage would be to review the > book, so I can bring books > > from the JUG library(if their hardcopy) to the > meetings for people to > > pick up who are interested in reviewing the book, > you can take them home > > with you and review the book, and when your done > either bring it to the > > next meeting to drop off, mail it back to me, or > mail it to the next > > person on the list who wants it. > > > > To start with, I have a few Joomla books from > Packt Publishing that I'm > > done with and can donate, and if there is interest > I can get review > > copies of books from both the Packt and O'Reilly > UG support networks. > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 21:32:04 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:32:04 -0400 Subject: [joomla] [OT] Finding houses for rent Message-ID: <330532b60710181832x138544ccge45bd14aa884a94e@mail.gmail.com> I thought I'd ask my fellow joomloids where they would look for a single family home for rent in NYC. There's all the major shams(ahem!) I mean search services like rent.com and rentnet.com and so on, and of course there's craig's list. What else is there? -- Mitch From jonbaer at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 22:04:32 2007 From: jonbaer at gmail.com (Jon Baer) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:04:32 -0400 Subject: [joomla] [OT] Finding houses for rent In-Reply-To: <330532b60710181832x138544ccge45bd14aa884a94e@mail.gmail.com> References: <330532b60710181832x138544ccge45bd14aa884a94e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17338F2C-23CF-443E-AA7E-F03B930D2044@gmail.com> http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/rentals On Oct 18, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > I thought I'd ask my fellow joomloids where they would look for a > single family home for rent in NYC. There's all the major shams(ahem!) > I mean search services like rent.com and rentnet.com and so on, and of > course there's craig's list. > > What else is there? > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 23 09:55:22 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:55:22 -0400 Subject: [joomla] November 8th Meeting Message-ID: <471DFD4A.9050604@beezifies.com> Just a reminder that the November 8th meeting is coming up. You can RSVP online through the contact form, http://www.joomlanyc.org/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=11 Or just send me an email. Even if your just thinking about going but aren't sure, RSVP and let me know so I can add you to the security list. I'll make sure to send out an email next week to get a firmer number(and assuming we're not over the room limit, I won't drop anyone who RSVP's from the list so if you turn out to have free time, you can go ahead and show up). As usual, meetings are free and open to the public. From masimko at optonline.net Tue Oct 23 14:20:23 2007 From: masimko at optonline.net (=?utf-8?B?TWFyayBTaW1rbw==?=) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:20:23 +0000 Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 20 In-Reply-To: <0JQD00KNCGHZAUY0@mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0JQD00KNCGHZAUY0@mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <1667964139-1193163688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-100433573-@bxe005.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I will attend that meeting. Mark simko Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:01:13 To:joomla at lists.nyphp.org Subject: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 20 Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. November 8th Meeting (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:55:22 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] November 8th Meeting To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <471DFD4A.9050604 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just a reminder that the November 8th meeting is coming up. You can RSVP online through the contact form, http://www.joomlanyc.org/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=11 Or just send me an email. Even if your just thinking about going but aren't sure, RSVP and let me know so I can add you to the security list. I'll make sure to send out an email next week to get a firmer number(and assuming we're not over the room limit, I won't drop anyone who RSVP's from the list so if you turn out to have free time, you can go ahead and show up). As usual, meetings are free and open to the public. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla at lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 20 ************************************** From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Fri Oct 26 09:35:53 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:35:53 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla NYC Updated Message-ID: <4721ED39.9070602@beezifies.com> First off, for those of you who tried to register with AOL addresses, there is a problem with AOL and mail can't reach there so accounts can't be activated. If you send me an email with your preferred address, I will change your email address from AOL to a non-AOL one so you can activate your account. Secondly, I've added 2 new sections to the site. Sponsors - lists the groups and publishers helping us out. Of primary interest is the publishers, Apress, O'Reilly, and Packt. If ordering directly through their sites, you can use member codes to get an additional discount(I'll be adding those codes up as soon as I can). Reviews - this section is half implemented. Right now I have SOBI2 configured with the appropriate fields so members can add books to the list of interested books. I'll be configuring a review section so members can review the books(I will also be noting which books are in the NYC JUG library, those books I'll bring to the meeting and if anyone wants to borrow them untill the next meeting, you can bring it back, mail it back to me, or mail it on to the next interested party. In order to borrow a book you must: 1) Sign up for an account on the site 2) Show up at a meeting in person(:-)) 3) You can borrow 1 book at a time(2 books as the library grows or there is not enough interest for the first half dozen of books I bring) 4) You must post a review of the book to our website! Our access to books for the library is dependent on posting reviews. Note: it does not have to be a good review, if you don't find a book usefull say so! Feel free to add books to the list of books up there that may be of interest to Joomla developers and review them if you have them. I will do my best to get copies of the books for the library. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Fri Oct 26 10:10:22 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:10:22 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla NYC Updated In-Reply-To: <4721ED39.9070602@beezifies.com> References: <4721ED39.9070602@beezifies.com> Message-ID: <4721F54E.9070506@beezifies.com> Well, adding a review module for SOBI was painless. Ok, so now everything is in place, feel free to review and rate books, add new books, etc. I've got to pick up the first shipment of books later today and then I can go ahead and update the database. In the meantime, let me know if there are any problems extending the database. From sachikogoodyear at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 16:12:43 2007 From: sachikogoodyear at yahoo.com (Sachiko Goodyear) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 Message-ID: <394305.42614.qm@web55508.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Love the calendar, which calendar are you using? joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: Send joomla mailing list submissions to joomla at lists.nyphp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org You can reach the person managing the list at joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Joomla NYC Updated (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) 2. Re: Joomla NYC Updated (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:35:53 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: [joomla] Joomla NYC Updated To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <4721ED39.9070602 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed First off, for those of you who tried to register with AOL addresses, there is a problem with AOL and mail can't reach there so accounts can't be activated. If you send me an email with your preferred address, I will change your email address from AOL to a non-AOL one so you can activate your account. Secondly, I've added 2 new sections to the site. Sponsors - lists the groups and publishers helping us out. Of primary interest is the publishers, Apress, O'Reilly, and Packt. If ordering directly through their sites, you can use member codes to get an additional discount(I'll be adding those codes up as soon as I can). Reviews - this section is half implemented. Right now I have SOBI2 configured with the appropriate fields so members can add books to the list of interested books. I'll be configuring a review section so members can review the books(I will also be noting which books are in the NYC JUG library, those books I'll bring to the meeting and if anyone wants to borrow them untill the next meeting, you can bring it back, mail it back to me, or mail it on to the next interested party. In order to borrow a book you must: 1) Sign up for an account on the site 2) Show up at a meeting in person(:-)) 3) You can borrow 1 book at a time(2 books as the library grows or there is not enough interest for the first half dozen of books I bring) 4) You must post a review of the book to our website! Our access to books for the library is dependent on posting reviews. Note: it does not have to be a good review, if you don't find a book usefull say so! Feel free to add books to the list of books up there that may be of interest to Joomla developers and review them if you have them. I will do my best to get copies of the books for the library. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:10:22 -0400 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla NYC Updated To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Message-ID: <4721F54E.9070506 at beezifies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, adding a review module for SOBI was painless. Ok, so now everything is in place, feel free to review and rate books, add new books, etc. I've got to pick up the first shipment of books later today and then I can go ahead and update the database. In the meantime, let me know if there are any problems extending the database. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ joomla mailing list joomla at lists.nyphp.org http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla End of joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 ************************************** Sachiko Goodyear Director of Technology-based Learning Goodyear Learning, LLC http://www.goodyearlearning.com ph: 201-349-5862 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 16:26:26 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: <394305.42614.qm@web55508.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <865740.84816.qm@web34214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> GigCal... --- Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > Love the calendar, which calendar are you using? > > joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: Send joomla > mailing list submissions to > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Joomla NYC Updated (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) > 2. Re: Joomla NYC Updated (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:35:53 -0400 > From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com > Subject: [joomla] Joomla NYC Updated > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Message-ID: <4721ED39.9070602 at beezifies.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > First off, for those of you who tried to register > with AOL addresses, > there is a problem with AOL and mail can't reach > there so accounts can't > be activated. > > If you send me an email with your preferred address, > I will change your > email address from AOL to a non-AOL one so you can > activate your account. > > > Secondly, I've added 2 new sections to the site. > > Sponsors - lists the groups and publishers helping > us out. Of primary > interest is the publishers, Apress, O'Reilly, and > Packt. If ordering > directly through their sites, you can use member > codes to get an > additional discount(I'll be adding those codes up as > soon as I can). > > Reviews - this section is half implemented. Right > now I have SOBI2 > configured with the appropriate fields so members > can add books to the > list of interested books. I'll be configuring a > review section so > members can review the books(I will also be noting > which books are in > the NYC JUG library, those books I'll bring to the > meeting and if anyone > wants to borrow them untill the next meeting, you > can bring it back, > mail it back to me, or mail it on to the next > interested party. In > order to borrow a book you must: > 1) Sign up for an account on the site > 2) Show up at a meeting in person(:-)) > 3) You can borrow 1 book at a time(2 books as the > library grows or there > is not enough interest for the first half dozen of > books I bring) > 4) You must post a review of the book to our > website! Our access to > books for the library is dependent on posting > reviews. Note: it does > not have to be a good review, if you don't find a > book usefull say so! > > Feel free to add books to the list of books up there > that may be of > interest to Joomla developers and review them if you > have them. I will > do my best to get copies of the books for the > library. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:10:22 -0400 > From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com > Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla NYC Updated > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Message-ID: <4721F54E.9070506 at beezifies.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > > Well, adding a review module for SOBI was painless. > > Ok, so now everything is in place, feel free to > review and rate books, > add new books, etc. > > I've got to pick up the first shipment of books > later today and then I > can go ahead and update the database. > > In the meantime, let me know if there are any > problems extending the > database. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > joomla mailing list > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > End of joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 > ************************************** > > > > Sachiko Goodyear > Director of Technology-based Learning > Goodyear Learning, LLC > http://www.goodyearlearning.com > ph: 201-349-5862 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Fri Oct 26 17:08:13 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:08:13 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Re: joomla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: <394305.42614.qm@web55508.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <394305.42614.qm@web55508.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4722573D.4040405@beezifies.com> Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > Love the calendar, which calendar are you using? GigCal.... I'm not especially thrilled with it out of the box, but it does have a lot of functions I can modify. I think I see how to add in a hopstop link to dynamically generate based on the address of the venue... I really do NOT like the hardcoding of the "select XYZ" in the combo boxes. And the modules all show the current month, wheras I'd like to be able to configure it to show the next month. Oh and lastly I'd like to be able to have the Joomla based calendar synch up to some public calendar systems like Google, Meetup, and whatever else people use. So it's edit once, publish everywhere. Anyone want to hack away at some code and add functionality? :-) From graham at nuthinwerked.com Sun Oct 28 13:02:52 2007 From: graham at nuthinwerked.com (Graham Spice) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:02:52 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Re: gigcal Message-ID: <4724C0BC.5080504@nuthinwerked.com> I run the gigCalendar project and would love some help! I'm not a developer guru like some of you folks on this list and I've been having an impossible time finding coders to help the project along since its release in Dec '05. Contact me directly if you're interested...adding these features alone would be huge! Best- Graham Spice > Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > >> Love the calendar, which calendar are you using? >> > > GigCal.... > I'm not especially thrilled with it out of the box, but it does have a > lot of functions I can modify. I think I see how to add in a hopstop > link to dynamically generate based on the address of the venue... I > really do NOT like the hardcoding of the "select XYZ" in the combo > boxes. And the modules all show the current month, wheras I'd like to > be able to configure it to show the next month. > > Oh and lastly I'd like to be able to have the Joomla based calendar > synch up to some public calendar systems like Google, Meetup, and > whatever else people use. So it's edit once, publish everywhere. > > Anyone want to hack away at some code and add functionality? :-) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Sun Oct 28 13:28:50 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Re: gigcal In-Reply-To: <4724C0BC.5080504@nuthinwerked.com> Message-ID: <949753.39710.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are you in the NYC area? Come to our next meeting (maybe we can talk further)... --- Graham Spice wrote: > I run the gigCalendar project and would love some > help! I'm not a > developer guru like some of you folks on this list > and I've been having > an impossible time finding coders to help the > project along since its > release in Dec '05. Contact me directly if you're > interested...adding > these features alone would be huge! > > Best- > Graham Spice > > > Sachiko Goodyear wrote: > > > >> Love the calendar, which calendar are you using? > >> > > > > GigCal.... > > I'm not especially thrilled with it out of the > box, but it does have a > > lot of functions I can modify. I think I see how > to add in a hopstop > > link to dynamically generate based on the address > of the venue... I > > really do NOT like the hardcoding of the "select > XYZ" in the combo > > boxes. And the modules all show the current > month, wheras I'd like to > > be able to configure it to show the next month. > > > > Oh and lastly I'd like to be able to have the > Joomla based calendar > > synch up to some public calendar systems like > Google, Meetup, and > > whatever else people use. So it's edit once, > publish everywhere. > > > > Anyone want to hack away at some code and add > functionality? :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 11:32:24 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:32:24 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Re: gigcal In-Reply-To: <949753.39710.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4724C0BC.5080504@nuthinwerked.com> <949753.39710.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60710290832q6f2f3dfah4b147097c5670ca1@mail.gmail.com> On 10/28/07, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Are you in the NYC area? Come to our next meeting > (maybe we can talk further)... Graham is in the land of the grand ol' opry - so I don't think he's going to make it. I have tried to help him in the past, as his extension is one of the most useful I have found over the years. Maybe this could be one of the projects for the user groups? That is, besides launching the websites of course *blush* -- Mitch From graham at nuthinwerked.com Mon Oct 29 14:23:38 2007 From: graham at nuthinwerked.com (Graham Spice) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:23:38 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Re: gigcal Message-ID: <4726252A.1000303@nuthinwerked.com> I lived in Nashville for many years but just last year took a job at Washington & Lee University in Lexington, VA. Still a long haul for a meeting. :) raham > From: Anthony Ferrara > Subject: Re: [joomla] Re: gigcal > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > Message-ID: <949753.39710.qm at web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Are you in the NYC area? Come to our next meeting > (maybe we can talk further)... > --- Graham Spice wrote: > > >> I run the gigCalendar project and would love some >> help! I'm not a >> developer guru like some of you folks on this list >> and I've been having >> an impossible time finding coders to help the >> project along since its >> release in Dec '05. Contact me directly if you're >> interested...adding >> these features alone would be huge! >> >> Best- >> Graham Spice From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Mon Oct 29 14:37:46 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Re: gigcal In-Reply-To: <4726252A.1000303@nuthinwerked.com> Message-ID: <163491.61096.qm@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good point... If the JoomlaDay DC ever happens... --- Graham Spice wrote: > I lived in Nashville for many years but just last > year took a job at > Washington & Lee University in Lexington, VA. Still > a long haul for a > meeting. :) > > raham > > > > From: Anthony Ferrara > > Subject: Re: [joomla] Re: gigcal > > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > > Message-ID: > <949753.39710.qm at web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Are you in the NYC area? Come to our next meeting > > (maybe we can talk further)... > > --- Graham Spice wrote: > > > > > >> I run the gigCalendar project and would love some > >> help! I'm not a > >> developer guru like some of you folks on this > list > >> and I've been having > >> an impossible time finding coders to help the > >> project along since its > >> release in Dec '05. Contact me directly if you're > >> interested...adding > >> these features alone would be huge! > >> > >> Best- > >> Graham Spice > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From leam at reuel.net Mon Oct 29 20:14:20 2007 From: leam at reuel.net (leam) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:14:20 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Multiple Admins? Message-ID: <1193703260.3082.10.camel@leam> A friend was looking for a good CMS and I obviously thought of Joomla. The questions arose about having multiple admins who take care of seperate areas, and being able to have different menu options depending on where you are. For example, the Sales team at example.com can edit and change the sales section of the site and the tech folks can edit product specifications. A corporate customer might have a couple extra tabs on the top of the menu that cover details on contract sales, etc. Make sense? The main issue would be that the sales and technical areas were totally seperate, with seperate passwords, etc. Leam From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 11:40:54 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:40:54 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Multiple Admins? In-Reply-To: <1193703260.3082.10.camel@leam> References: <1193703260.3082.10.camel@leam> Message-ID: <330532b60710300840i77e12633j4cf3bb46dacc1cbc@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/07, leam wrote: > A friend was looking for a good CMS and I obviously thought of Joomla. > The questions arose about having multiple admins who take care of > seperate areas, and being able to have different menu options depending > on where you are. Take a look at this extension, I think it might be what your looking for: -- Mitch From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 30 11:53:06 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:53:06 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Multiple Admins? In-Reply-To: <330532b60710300840i77e12633j4cf3bb46dacc1cbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1193703260.3082.10.camel@leam> <330532b60710300840i77e12633j4cf3bb46dacc1cbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47275362.2060908@beezifies.com> I prefer JUGA: http://extensions.joomla.org/component/option,com_mtree/task,viewlink/link_id,2587/Itemid,35/ There are also other ways of doing similiar things. For example, docMan lets you have a document library with fine grained control over who can view/edit which documents. But their not a "website". Another thing to look into is that there are a couple of "magazine" components for Joomla which I would expect have ACL mechanisms built into it. I forget what the component is for the current version, but hopefully next month(December) we will have a presentation on it(poke poke). There is also a new component for Joomla 1.5 from RocketWerx that looks cool and their beta is currently available for purchase. From klas9574 at msn.com Tue Oct 30 13:26:26 2007 From: klas9574 at msn.com (Scott Klassen) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:26:26 -0500 Subject: [joomla] IE7 and Joomla intranet site Message-ID: This one may be impossible, but I figure that maybe someone here might know. I use Joomla for a company intranet site. We are now rolling IE7 out to users and have hit a minor usability issue that is bothering many of the staff. The site is in the Intranet security zone. IE7 requires that sites from different zones be opened in different windows, as opposed to tabs. What winds up happening is that with clicking on links to various sites/pages both external and intranet, the users wind up with several IE7 windows open, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having a tabbed interface. Through some research, I've found that there most likely isn't a way to turn off this behavior for IE7, but there is a possible workaround. It's called Mark of The Web (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537628.aspx). Can this additional header line be set in a Joomla site? Would be best if I could set it in one or a few places as opposed to on every page of the site. Thanks, Scott Klassen From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 13:43:57 2007 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:43:57 -0400 Subject: [joomla] IE7 and Joomla intranet site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <330532b60710301043h1ca0ea4drddbcdf82e7a31443@mail.gmail.com> Holy smokes, that approach is N U T S. I'd rather move forward with the other workaround called Firefox. >From what I took the time to read, I'd wager you have to put this in the template file for the entire site. If each document needs to have a unique tag at the beginning, then that is the performance hit of being forced to insert such silly markup dynamically for every page view. Sorry to be harsh, gosh I hope I misunderstand this document. -- Mitch On 10/30/07, Scott Klassen wrote: > This one may be impossible, but I figure that maybe someone here might know. > I use Joomla for a company intranet site. We are now rolling IE7 out to > users and have hit a minor usability issue that is bothering many of the > staff. The site is in the Intranet security zone. IE7 requires that sites > from different zones be opened in different windows, as opposed to tabs. > What winds up happening is that with clicking on links to various > sites/pages both external and intranet, the users wind up with several IE7 > windows open, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having a tabbed > interface. Through some research, I've found that there most likely isn't a > way to turn off this behavior for IE7, but there is a possible workaround. > It's called Mark of The Web > (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537628.aspx). Can this > additional header line be set in a Joomla site? Would be best if I could > set it in one or a few places as opposed to on every page of the site. > > Thanks, > > Scott Klassen > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From ircmaxell at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 13:49:00 2007 From: ircmaxell at yahoo.com (Anthony Ferrara) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] IE7 and Joomla intranet site In-Reply-To: <330532b60710301043h1ca0ea4drddbcdf82e7a31443@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <504859.30331.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This would be simple (I agree, it is stupid, but)... Edit your template's index.php, before add the following "; ?>? --- Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Holy smokes, that approach is N U T S. I'd rather > move forward with > the other workaround called Firefox. > > >From what I took the time to read, I'd wager you > have to put this in > the template file for the entire site. If each > document needs to have > a unique tag at the beginning, then that is the > performance hit of > being forced to insert such silly markup dynamically > for every page > view. > > Sorry to be harsh, gosh I hope I misunderstand this > document. > > -- Mitch > > On 10/30/07, Scott Klassen wrote: > > This one may be impossible, but I figure that > maybe someone here might know. > > I use Joomla for a company intranet site. We are > now rolling IE7 out to > > users and have hit a minor usability issue that is > bothering many of the > > staff. The site is in the Intranet security zone. > IE7 requires that sites > > from different zones be opened in different > windows, as opposed to tabs. > > What winds up happening is that with clicking on > links to various > > sites/pages both external and intranet, the users > wind up with several IE7 > > windows open, which somewhat defeats the purpose > of having a tabbed > > interface. Through some research, I've found that > there most likely isn't a > > way to turn off this behavior for IE7, but there > is a possible workaround. > > It's called Mark of The Web > > > (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537628.aspx). > Can this > > additional header line be set in a Joomla site? > Would be best if I could > > set it in one or a few places as opposed to on > every page of the site. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Klassen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 30 16:14:08 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:14:08 -0400 Subject: [joomla] IE7 and Joomla intranet site In-Reply-To: <504859.30331.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <504859.30331.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47279090.8070804@beezifies.com> Anthony Ferrara wrote: > This would be simple (I agree, it is stupid, but)... > > Edit your template's index.php, before add the > following > url=(".strlen($mosConfig_live_site).")$mosConfig_live_site > -->"; ?>? No, what he wants is to give it a phony external domain name, so Internet Explorer treats the document as if it came from the internet instead of the intranet - in short, he wants to make them all treated the same way to keep them in the same tabs. As such, "; ?> Will do the trick(assuming his company isn't contoso) Whether or not this means IE7 will display the intranet sites in the same browser window as the internet sites I'm not sure. From ajai at bitblit.net Tue Oct 30 16:55:47 2007 From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [joomla] Recommendations for hosting: Message-ID: Probably this has been asked many times: Im looking for decent Joomla hosting that's reliable and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Any recommendations? -- Aj. From bz-gmort at beezifies.com Tue Oct 30 17:47:28 2007 From: bz-gmort at beezifies.com (bz-gmort at beezifies.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:47:28 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Recommendations for hosting: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4727A670.9070006@beezifies.com> The only company I recommend for reliability is FutureQuest. http://www.futurequest.net You get SSH access, you get reliability, but you don't get cheap(lowest priced plan is 10/month for 300MB of diskspace and 5G transfer a month). You can choose between MySQL v4 or v5, PHP v4 or v5, and you can choose between MySQL and Postgress(but not both). (I even have an affiliate link if you want to use it and throw me some cash, just go through the link on my wife's photo gallery, http://www.saplings.us/gallery - sorry for the spammed advertising all over it, I use it as a test ground for different things - had to figure out how to modify Menalto's templates to include google ads at one point in time). They have great service and don't oversell their accounts, however they are also proactive so if you have a very active Joomla site that is burning CPU they will ask you to upgrade your plan to one where you aren't impacting other customers). Outside of FutureQuest, in NYC at least over 10 years ago was Panix, I think they do shared hosting as well as dedicated and the way they were run at the time I trusted them(they were one of the few hosts at the time that had internal customer forums where customers could B&M at each other and such. I wonder if their still running them using NNTP?) So if I was looking local, I'd go with Panix again. But again, their not what I'd call cheap in this day and age. From jonathan.slivko at mac.com Tue Oct 30 18:16:09 2007 From: jonathan.slivko at mac.com (Jonathan M. Slivko) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:16:09 -0700 Subject: [joomla] Recommendations for hosting: In-Reply-To: <4727A670.9070006@beezifies.com> References: <4727A670.9070006@beezifies.com> Message-ID: There's a *ton* of Joomla hosting providers out there (the company I work for being one of them - http:///www.cartikahosting.com) - our site itself is in Joomla and we host many Joomla sites on our environment without issues. Another one that I can think of that would be a decent fit for a Joomla site would be http://www.medialayer.com. -- Jonathan Jonathan M. Slivko jonathan.slivko at mac.com On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, at 05:48PM, wrote: >The only company I recommend for reliability is FutureQuest. > >http://www.futurequest.net > >You get SSH access, you get reliability, but you don't get cheap(lowest >priced plan is 10/month for 300MB of diskspace and 5G transfer a month). > >You can choose between MySQL v4 or v5, PHP v4 or v5, and you can choose >between MySQL and Postgress(but not both). > >(I even have an affiliate link if you want to use it and throw me some >cash, just go through the link on my wife's photo gallery, >http://www.saplings.us/gallery - sorry for the spammed advertising all >over it, I use it as a test ground for different things - had to figure >out how to modify Menalto's templates to include google ads at one point >in time). > >They have great service and don't oversell their accounts, however they >are also proactive so if you have a very active Joomla site that is >burning CPU they will ask you to upgrade your plan to one where you >aren't impacting other customers). > >Outside of FutureQuest, in NYC at least over 10 years ago was Panix, I >think they do shared hosting as well as dedicated and the way they were >run at the time I trusted them(they were one of the few hosts at the >time that had internal customer forums where customers could B&M at each >other and such. I wonder if their still running them using NNTP?) So >if I was looking local, I'd go with Panix again. But again, their not >what I'd call cheap in this day and age. > >_______________________________________________ >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >