From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Fri Oct 2 11:10:55 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website Message-ID: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looking for a way to play mov or mp4 videos on the site so that the movie can be viewed via the iphone. Tried AllVideos and AVReloaded, but I can only get flv videos to show up. The QuickTime logo flashes on the screen and then disappears, and there's nothing to click on to get it started. I have a direct link to the mp4 file for iphone users, but this does not have controls for pausing, etc. Anyone have a solution or suggestion? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.horning at planetnoc.com Fri Oct 2 11:27:41 2009 From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Daniel Horning) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:27:41 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website In-Reply-To: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201ca4374$e32aa2d0$a97fe870$@horning@planetnoc.com> I am having difficulty finding the method docs on the quick time site. I'd suggest using the JCE editor media insert plug in I believe that module is part of the paid support version - but the code once you have it is GPL -- Dan Horning American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination. dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com 1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133 15 Third Street, PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12180 (by appointment only) From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Donna Marie Vincent Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:11 AM To: Joomla Users Group List Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website Looking for a way to play mov or mp4 videos on the site so that the movie can be viewed via the iphone. Tried AllVideos and AVReloaded, but I can only get flv videos to show up. The QuickTime logo flashes on the screen and then disappears, and there's nothing to click on to get it started. I have a direct link to the mp4 file for iphone users, but this does not have controls for pausing, etc. Anyone have a solution or suggestion? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 12:22:23 2009 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:22:23 -0300 Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website In-Reply-To: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6142ad2c0910020922i1499d119m2b9bc761b92a03b9@mail.gmail.com> I upload the video to YouTube, then I copy and paste the code they give into my article. It works fine. 2009/10/2 Donna Marie Vincent > Looking for a way to play mov or mp4 videos on the site so that the movie > can be viewed via the iphone. Tried AllVideos and AVReloaded, but I can > only get flv videos to show up. The QuickTime logo flashes on the screen > and then disappears, and there's nothing to click on to get it started. I > have a direct link to the mp4 file for iphone users, but this does not have > controls for pausing, etc. > > Anyone have a solution or suggestion? > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Helvecio da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil helvecio.rj at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 13:36:07 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:36:07 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website In-Reply-To: <6142ad2c0910020922i1499d119m2b9bc761b92a03b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6142ad2c0910020922i1499d119m2b9bc761b92a03b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910021036o4c5cebd7nd746c5a7623bf29@mail.gmail.com> Check out Kaltura, both an open source video server AND video player. http://www.kaltura.com/ -- Mitch On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > I upload the video to YouTube, then I copy and paste the code they give into > my article. > > It works fine. > > 2009/10/2 Donna Marie Vincent >> >> Looking for a way to play mov or mp4 videos on the site so that the movie >> can be viewed via the iphone.? Tried AllVideos and AVReloaded, but I can >> only get flv videos to show up.? The QuickTime logo flashes on the screen >> and then disappears, and there's nothing to click on to get it started.? I >> have a direct link to the mp4 file for iphone users, but this does not have >> controls for pausing, etc. >> >> Anyone have a solution or suggestion? >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - ?- - - - > Helvecio da Silva > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil > helvecio.rj at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Fri Oct 2 17:03:27 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website Message-ID: <480485.91058.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, I finally followed the Camtasia directions for exporting to iPhone. It's m4v. I thought mp4 or mov would do. So I have flv for computer users and a link to the m4v for iPhone users. That should be sufficient, eh? iPhone users aren't going to watch it inline, anyway. On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: Check out Kaltura, both an open source video server AND video player. http://www.kaltura.com/ -- Mitch On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: I upload the video to YouTube, then I copy and paste the code they give into my article. It works fine. 2009/10/2 Donna Marie Vincent Looking for a way to play mov or mp4 videos on the site so that the movie can be viewed via the iphone. Tried AllVideos and AVReloaded, but I can only get flv videos to show up. The QuickTime logo flashes on the screen and then disappears, and there's nothing to click on to get it started. I have a direct link to the mp4 file for iphone users, but this does not have controls for pausing, etc. Anyone have a solution or suggestion? Thanks. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Helvecio da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil helvecio.rj at gmail.com _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sat Oct 3 09:17:51 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Quicktime player for website In-Reply-To: <330532b60910021036o4c5cebd7nd746c5a7623bf29@mail.gmail.com> References: <846199.53382.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6142ad2c0910020922i1499d119m2b9bc761b92a03b9@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910021036o4c5cebd7nd746c5a7623bf29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <730754.37311.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm using Kaltura. Real easy to use and nice quality. Doesn't play on my iphone, though. :-( ________________________________ From: Mitch Pirtle To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Fri, October 2, 2009 1:36:07 PM Subject: Re: [joomla] Quicktime player for website Check out Kaltura, both an open source video server AND video player. http://www.kaltura.com/ -- Mitch On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > I upload the video to YouTube, then I copy and paste the code they give into > my article. > > It works fine. > > 2009/10/2 Donna Marie Vincent >> >> Looking for a way to play mov or mp4 videos on the site so that the movie >> can be viewed via the iphone. Tried AllVideos and AVReloaded, but I can >> only get flv videos to show up. The QuickTime logo flashes on the screen >> and then disappears, and there's nothing to click on to get it started. I >> have a direct link to the mp4 file for iphone users, but this does not have >> controls for pausing, etc. >> >> Anyone have a solution or suggestion? >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Helvecio da Silva > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil > helvecio.rj at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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As a bonus, if you are interested I can demo something I am setting up for the JoomlaDay event, which will provide live video streams and realtime twitter feeds... -- Mitch From scott at wolpow.com Thu Oct 8 07:55:38 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:55:38 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes Message-ID: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> Have we made reservations? -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Thu Oct 8 08:13:31 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes In-Reply-To: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> References: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> Message-ID: <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have a standing reservation ________________________________ From: Scott Wolpow To: NYPHP at lists.nyphp.org; SIG at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 7:55:38 AM Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes Have we made reservations? -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 08:22:29 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:22:29 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes In-Reply-To: <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910080522o16314392k9f921e971c621565@mail.gmail.com> Shouldn't that be a sitting reservation? -- Mitch On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > We have a standing reservation > > ________________________________ > From: Scott Wolpow > To: NYPHP at lists.nyphp.org; SIG at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 7:55:38 AM > Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes > > Have we made reservations? > -- *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From scott at wolpow.com Thu Oct 8 08:26:24 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:26:24 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes In-Reply-To: <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4ACDDA70.8060605@wolpow.com> I think it would be better if we had sitting reservations. LOL I will call to check. Scott On 10/8/2009 8:13 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > We have a standing reservation > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Scott Wolpow > *To:* NYPHP at lists.nyphp.org; SIG at lists.nyphp.org > *Sent:* Thu, October 8, 2009 7:55:38 AM > *Subject:* [joomla] PJ Clarkes > > Have we made reservations? > -- *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2422 - Release Date: 10/08/09 06:39:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From scott at wolpow.com Thu Oct 8 08:27:09 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:27:09 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes In-Reply-To: <330532b60910080522o16314392k9f921e971c621565@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <330532b60910080522o16314392k9f921e971c621565@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ACDDA9D.5080409@wolpow.com> Did not see Mitch's post, great minds joke alike. SW On 10/8/2009 8:22 AM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Shouldn't that be a sitting reservation? > > -- Mitch > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Donna Marie Vincent > wrote: > >> We have a standing reservation >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Scott Wolpow >> To: NYPHP at lists.nyphp.org; SIG at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 7:55:38 AM >> Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes >> >> Have we made reservations? >> -- *Scott Wolpow* >> *718.275.7765* >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2422 - Release Date: 10/08/09 06:39:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From compustretch at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 14:39:35 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:39:35 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PJ Clarkes In-Reply-To: <4ACDDA9D.5080409@wolpow.com> References: <4ACDD33A.3090100@wolpow.com> <277811.89319.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <330532b60910080522o16314392k9f921e971c621565@mail.gmail.com> <4ACDDA9D.5080409@wolpow.com> Message-ID: While I was planning on being at the meeting tonight, I see I have a conflicting meeting downtown so most likely I won't be able to make it. I also won't be able to dial in since I will be in a different meeting. with regrets! -?orest -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Fri Oct 9 07:55:33 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:55:33 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Networking events Message-ID: <4ACF24B5.5050200@wolpow.com> This meets one Wednesday a month. Web Analytics http://www.webanalyticsdemystified.com/wednesday/send_to_friend.asp?event_id=2941 Ultra Lite Start-ups http://ultralightstartups.com/newyork/ -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From scott at wolpow.com Fri Oct 9 11:03:05 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:03:05 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JEvents Message-ID: <4ACF50A9.5090009@wolpow.com> In Jevents can I show 60 days from current day instead of by month? If not what can do this? -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From scott at wolpow.com Fri Oct 9 11:24:18 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:24:18 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Cloud Computing with AWS and Oracle Message-ID: <4ACF55A2.50705@wolpow.com> On October 22nd from 8:00 am to 10:30 am at The Bulova Center at 75-20 Astoria Blvd. Jackson Heights NY 11370 {That's Queens) The Queens Chamber of Commerce Infotech Committee [which I am a member] is hosting an Oracle Sponsored panel on Cloud Computing. The Panel will include Amazon Web Services and Others. Plenty of FREE parking and a Networking Breakfast will be served from 8:00 to 8:30 There is zero cost to attend. To register please go to http://queenschamber.org/calendar-of-events.html?EventID=766 For a PDF to palce on your Companies Bulletin Board. As to the domain, just ask me next time you see me. http://wallsofthetemple.com/oracle.pdf -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From will_edit_for_food at mac.com Fri Oct 9 17:16:34 2009 From: will_edit_for_food at mac.com (Carol Pinchefsky) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:16:34 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Test Message-ID: <20DC6DF7-DC64-4708-9FEE-152B193602DC@mac.com> Test? - Carol Pinchefsky, who attended her first Joomla User's Group meeting last night From dan.horning at planetnoc.com Fri Oct 9 17:33:53 2009 From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (dan.horning at planetnoc.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:33:53 +0000 Subject: [joomla] Test Message-ID: <1530691897-1255124063-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-749475024-@bda388.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Hello world. ------Original Message------ From: Carol Pinchefsky Sender: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org ReplyTo: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: [joomla] Test Sent: Oct 9, 2009 5:16 PM Test? - Carol Pinchefsky, who attended her first Joomla User's Group meeting last night _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- sent via blackberry -- Dan Horning American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination. dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com 1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133 15 Third Street, PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12180 (by appointment only) From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Sat Oct 10 18:17:48 2009 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:17:48 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Looking forward to attending Joomla Day NYC Message-ID: <6142ad2c0910101517g77a0a8eam90d6f857138f676c@mail.gmail.com> I`m here at last! So glad to be back in NY!!!! See you all on monday!!! -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Helvecio da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil helvecio.rj at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Sat Oct 10 19:01:27 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:01:27 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Test In-Reply-To: <20DC6DF7-DC64-4708-9FEE-152B193602DC@mac.com> References: <20DC6DF7-DC64-4708-9FEE-152B193602DC@mac.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910101601n6a4ba0c9o3c8c76fe32db2abe@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Carol Pinchefsky wrote: > Test? > > - Carol Pinchefsky, who attended her first Joomla User's Group meeting last > night Failed. Sorry, didn't get this email. -- Mitch, trying not to giggle too loudly From kerstinfinke at hotmail.com Sun Oct 11 09:10:25 2009 From: kerstinfinke at hotmail.com (Kerstin Finke) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [joomla] Where can I give joomla my baseurl? Message-ID: Hi, I am starting my first joomla-website. I made my own template, but the graphics are not shown, because the path is wrong. Obviously PHP should get the base-path by 'echo $this->baseurl' in the template, but the baseurl is not echoed. So where can I give joomla my baseurl? Thanks in advance Kerstin From kerstinfinke at hotmail.com Sun Oct 11 09:41:07 2009 From: kerstinfinke at hotmail.com (Kerstin Finke) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [joomla] Where can I give joomla my baseurl? References: Message-ID: Sorry, a simple mistake I made. Forgot the 'echo $this->baseurl' before the graphic-path, I had it only in the stylesheet-path and there it worked already. Greetings Kerstin Am Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:10:25 +0000 schrieb Kerstin Finke: > Hi, > > I am starting my first joomla-website. I made my own template, but the > graphics are not shown, because the path is wrong. > > Obviously PHP should get the base-path by 'echo $this->baseurl' in the > template, but the baseurl is not echoed. > > So where can I give joomla my baseurl? > > Thanks in advance > Kerstin From garyamort at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 09:28:15 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:28:15 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Thanks for JoomlaDay Message-ID: <4bffc350910130628i5b505772l802393703bc8193f@mail.gmail.com> Just wanted to drop the list a note saying thanks for inviting me down to JoomlaDay. It was good to see everyone again. JoomlaDay seemed great overall. Sorry I missed some of you at the bar afterwards. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 10:03:57 2009 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:03:57 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Thanks for JoomlaDay In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910130628i5b505772l802393703bc8193f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910130628i5b505772l802393703bc8193f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6142ad2c0910130703i145b061fw103daba6833b0774@mail.gmail.com> Absolutely!! There was so much going on that I missed doing my networking LOL. Hopefully I'll be back next year!!! 2009/10/13 Gary Mort > Just wanted to drop the list a note saying thanks for inviting me down to > JoomlaDay. It was good to see everyone again. > > JoomlaDay seemed great overall. Sorry I missed some of you at the bar > afterwards. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Helvecio da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil helvecio.rj at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Tue Oct 13 10:24:32 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:24:32 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Thanks for JoomlaDay In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910130628i5b505772l802393703bc8193f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AD48DA0.9080401@wolpow.com> We worked 'joomla' [All Together] to make this happen. The Queens Chamber of Commerce is have an Oracle sponsored even on the 22nd. Free breakfast Need people to attend. This will keep me in contact with Oracle. My Infotech committee is the host, though we were not part of the promotion. We need to get people so Please spread the word. Thanks Details. Date:Thursday, October 22, 2009 Limited seating is available, kindly RSVP by October 15th Location: :Bulova Center 75-20 Astoria Blvd., Suite 140, Jackson Heights, NY 11370 Time:8:00AM to 8:30AM Networking breakfast 8:30AM to 10:30AM Presentation Free admission, free breakfast, free parking and free advice Go to queenschamber.org wallsofthetemple.com/oracle.pdf On 10/13/2009 10:01 AM, forest mars wrote: > Just wanted to thank you for everything you did-- I wasn't completely > clear who did shirts, but it seemed like you were the one who made the > bags and jump sticks happen, so thanks for work in! > > best, > > Forest > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Gary Mort > wrote: > > Just wanted to drop the list a note saying thanks for inviting me > down to JoomlaDay. It was good to see everyone again. > > JoomlaDay seemed great overall. Sorry I missed some of you at the > bar afterwards. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > -- > -- > "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. > In practice, they're completely different." > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > This email is: > [ ] private: do not forward > [ x ] o.k. to forward > [ ] o.k. to blog > [ ] ask first > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. > and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) > > iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra > 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn > =MLhk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The New TLDs are Here! > Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch > Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! > https://secure.name-space.com/registry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.13/2432 - Release Date: 10/13/09 06:35:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From scott at wolpow.com Tue Oct 13 11:29:01 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:29:01 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Presentation Message-ID: <4AD49CBD.5060003@wolpow.com> For next month I thought I would present on server maintenance, optimizing the environment for Joomla Fine tuning etc. -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 12:11:14 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:11:14 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Presentation In-Reply-To: <4AD49CBD.5060003@wolpow.com> References: <4AD49CBD.5060003@wolpow.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910130911x55941020yff60aecd77dcc913@mail.gmail.com> Cool! Anthony totally converted me to LightTPD with his presentation last year at KickApps - maybe that could get a revisit? Another thing I'd like to see us do is a live setup of a Joomla specifically for blogging, using only FOSS goodies. I read all the tutorials, try all the demos, and they SUCK. Tired of using wordpress when I'd like to use Joomla... Anyone want to chair that session? Lastly, we should start adding these topics to the queue on the NYCJUG website, and start lining up speakers. Thanks to the JDayNUC we upped our profile, and need to continue to appear organized ;-) -- Mitch On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > For next month I thought I would present on server maintenance, optimizing > the environment for Joomla Fine tuning etc. > > > -- > *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From contact at compassdesigns.net Tue Oct 13 12:35:47 2009 From: contact at compassdesigns.net (Barrie North) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:35:47 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla Day NYC Message-ID: <53efb6970910130935s75330410lbf1ebc65e9ec486a@mail.gmail.com> I'd like to add my thanks to all the NYC group organizers and presenters. JDay was great! Barrie North www.joomlashack.com www.simplweb.com/joomla www.compassdesigns.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 13:01:15 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:01:15 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla Day NYC In-Reply-To: <53efb6970910130935s75330410lbf1ebc65e9ec486a@mail.gmail.com> References: <53efb6970910130935s75330410lbf1ebc65e9ec486a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910131001p727856a7o7fcbb643fdd75c55@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for coming Barrie, your SEO slugfest with Steve got pretty hawt reviews. -- Mitch On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Barrie North wrote: > I'd like to add my thanks to all the NYC group organizers and presenters. > JDay was great! > > Barrie North > www.joomlashack.com > www.simplweb.com/joomla > www.compassdesigns.net > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From scott at wolpow.com Tue Oct 13 13:17:32 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:17:32 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Presentation In-Reply-To: <330532b60910130911x55941020yff60aecd77dcc913@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AD49CBD.5060003@wolpow.com> <330532b60910130911x55941020yff60aecd77dcc913@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AD4B62C.9000605@wolpow.com> Also I have started to pre-approach Colleges about mini-Joomla days for students. Goal is more developers. This would be low to no cost. I will start working on the Non-profit next week so we are ready to rock in November. SW On 10/13/2009 12:11 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Cool! Anthony totally converted me to LightTPD with his presentation > last year at KickApps - maybe that could get a revisit? > > Another thing I'd like to see us do is a live setup of a Joomla > specifically for blogging, using only FOSS goodies. > > I read all the tutorials, try all the demos, and they SUCK. Tired of > using wordpress when I'd like to use Joomla... > > Anyone want to chair that session? > > Lastly, we should start adding these topics to the queue on the NYCJUG > website, and start lining up speakers. Thanks to the JDayNUC we upped > our profile, and need to continue to appear organized ;-) > > -- Mitch > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > >> For next month I thought I would present on server maintenance, optimizing >> the environment for Joomla Fine tuning etc. >> >> >> -- >> *Scott Wolpow* >> *718.275.7765* >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.13/2432 - Release Date: 10/13/09 06:35:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From web at kluger.com Tue Oct 13 13:47:43 2009 From: web at kluger.com (Web Project) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle Message-ID: <852023.35592.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congratulations to everyone who helped make Joomla day happen. One quick comment about the clear plastic water bottle that was part of the swag: Do NOT drink water from it! Throw it out! My wife is a science journalist (writes for Wired, Wall St Journal, National Geographic, etc). She took one look at it and told me to throw it away. Since the bottom of the bottle is stamped with the "7" recycle number, that means that it is made from Bisphenol A. Factsheets issued by The Centers for Disease Control -- http://www.cdc.gov/ExposureReport/pdf/factsheet_bisphenol.pdf and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences National Toxicology Program on Bisphenol A: http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/docs/bpa-factsheet.pdf Notes: 1. The NTP has ?some concern?for effects on the brain, behavior, and prostate gland in fetuses, infants, and children at current human exposures to BPA. 2. The same government agency advises people to: Avoid plastic containers with the #7 on the bottom. 3. The CDC says that "When laboratory test animals are dosed during pregnancy, BPA has been shown to have hormone-like effects on the developing reproductive system and neurobehavioral changes in the offspring." As my wife points out, the government is usually accused of underplaying risks. The problem is that the Bisphenol A can add Estrogin to whatever is stored in the bottle. Adding Estrogin to your diet is usually not a good idea for guys. And it can cause problems for women too. So be safe: throw away drinking bottles that have the "7" in the recycle symbol. The effect is small, so no worries if you've already drunken from the bottle. But throw it away now. Regards, Larry ps. Since not everyone at the Joomla Day is on this dist list, I suggest that this information be sent to everyone who registered for the conference. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now, whenever I click on a link in my site, I'm getting a > 404 - Component Not Found error. It looks like this: > > 404 - Component not found > > *You may not be able to visit this page because of:* > > 1. an *out-of-date bookmark/favourite* > 2. a search engine that has an *out-of-date listing for this site* > 3. a *mistyped address* > 4. you have *no access* to this page > 5. The requested resource was not found. > 6. An error has occurred while processing your request. > > *Please try one of the following pages:* > > > - Home Page > > If difficulties persist, please contact the System Administrator of this > site. > > Component not found > > > Maybe it's still looking for the Moodle component. How do I fix this? > > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 14:06:51 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:06:51 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Presentation In-Reply-To: <330532b60910130911x55941020yff60aecd77dcc913@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AD49CBD.5060003@wolpow.com> <330532b60910130911x55941020yff60aecd77dcc913@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Tired of > using wordpress when I'd like to use Joomla... > > IMO, there are really only 2 solutions to this problem. 1. better documentation/tutorial/s so that people could get a basic blog up and running. A better blogging template in the default install would also help. 2. a default blogging install "profile" similar to the way KickApps has their own default install. Joomla needs to have an OOB blogging solution or WP will keep kicking it in the arse. Also, an important question is, does Google consider Joomla to be "blogging: software (and not merely a CMS) ? One reason this is an important question is that Google made a change last month in the way it displays blog and news feeds. Specifically it tags a feed as a "Blog" only if it is generated using software on a specific list of blogging software. I wonder if Joomla! is even on the list ?? http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/10/the-strange-case-of-google-news-and-its-blog-label/ cheers, Forest Mars --- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ x ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ The New TLDs are Here! Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 14:25:41 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:25:41 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Joomla Day NYC In-Reply-To: <330532b60910131001p727856a7o7fcbb643fdd75c55@mail.gmail.com> References: <53efb6970910130935s75330410lbf1ebc65e9ec486a@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910131001p727856a7o7fcbb643fdd75c55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes and probably should have been in the keynote room, *all things considered* but then hindsight as they say is golden. Or something like that. -?orest On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Thanks for coming Barrie, your SEO slugfest with Steve got pretty hawt > reviews. > > -- Mitch > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Barrie North > wrote: > > I'd like to add my thanks to all the NYC group organizers and presenters. > > JDay was great! > > > > Barrie North > > www.joomlashack.com > > www.simplweb.com/joomla > > www.compassdesigns.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ The New TLDs are Here! Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! 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Since it's Bisphenol A, it can be recycled. ;-) cheers, Forest Mars On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Web Project wrote: > > Congratulations to everyone who helped make Joomla day happen. > > One quick comment about the clear plastic water bottle that was part of the > swag: > > Do NOT drink water from it! Throw it out! > > My wife is a science journalist (writes for Wired, Wall St Journal, > National Geographic, etc). She took one look at it and told me to throw it > away. Since the bottom of the bottle is stamped with the "7" recycle number, > that means that it is made from Bisphenol A. > > Factsheets issued by The Centers for Disease Control -- > http://www.cdc.gov/ExposureReport/pdf/factsheet_bisphenol.pdf > and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences National > Toxicology Program on Bisphenol A: > http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/docs/bpa-factsheet.pdf > > Notes: > > 1. The NTP has *?some concern?* for effects on the brain, behavior, and > prostate gland in fetuses, infants, and children at current human exposures > to BPA. > > > 2. The same government agency advises people to: Avoid plastic containers > with the #7 on the bottom. > > > 3. The CDC says that "When laboratory test animals are dosed during > pregnancy, BPA has been shown to have hormone-like effects on the developing > reproductive system and neurobehavioral changes in the offspring." > > > As my wife points out, the government is usually accused of underplaying > risks. > > > The problem is that the Bisphenol A can add Estrogin to whatever is stored > in the bottle. Adding Estrogin to your diet is usually not a good idea for > guys. And it can cause problems for women too. > > > So be safe: throw away drinking bottles that have the "7" in the recycle > symbol. > > > The effect is small, so no worries if you've already drunken from the > bottle. But throw it away now. > > > Regards, > > > Larry > > ps. Since not everyone at the Joomla Day is on this dist list, I suggest > that this information be sent to everyone who registered for the conference. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ x ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. 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I was wondering about it > myself, and you've cleared up the uncertaintly. > > Secondly, thanks for such a toughtfu, detailed, footnoted post about this. > The only thing I would disagree with is your advice to throw it out-- you > don't have to throw it out. > > Since it's Bisphenol A, it can be recycled. ;-) > > cheers, > > Forest Mars > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Web Project wrote: > >> >> Congratulations to everyone who helped make Joomla day happen. >> >> One quick comment about the clear plastic water bottle that was part of >> the swag: >> >> Do NOT drink water from it! Throw it out! >> >> My wife is a science journalist (writes for Wired, Wall St Journal, >> National Geographic, etc). She took one look at it and told me to throw it >> away. Since the bottom of the bottle is stamped with the "7" recycle number, >> that means that it is made from Bisphenol A. >> >> Factsheets issued by The Centers for Disease Control -- >> http://www.cdc.gov/ExposureReport/pdf/factsheet_bisphenol.pdf >> and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences National >> Toxicology Program on Bisphenol A: >> http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/docs/bpa-factsheet.pdf >> >> Notes: >> >> 1. The NTP has *?some concern?* for effects on the brain, behavior, and >> prostate gland in fetuses, infants, and children at current human exposures >> to BPA. >> >> >> 2. The same government agency advises people to: Avoid plastic >> containers with the #7 on the bottom. >> >> >> 3. The CDC says that "When laboratory test animals are dosed during >> pregnancy, BPA has been shown to have hormone-like effects on the developing >> reproductive system and neurobehavioral changes in the offspring." >> >> >> As my wife points out, the government is usually accused of underplaying >> risks. >> >> >> The problem is that the Bisphenol A can add Estrogin to whatever is >> stored in the bottle. Adding Estrogin to your diet is usually not a good >> idea for guys. And it can cause problems for women too. >> >> >> So be safe: throw away drinking bottles that have the "7" in the recycle >> symbol. >> >> >> The effect is small, so no worries if you've already drunken from the >> bottle. But throw it away now. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Larry >> >> ps. Since not everyone at the Joomla Day is on this dist list, I suggest >> that this information be sent to everyone who registered for the conference. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > > > -- > -- > "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. > In practice, they're completely different." > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > This email is: > [ ] private: do not forward > [ x ] o.k. to forward > [ x ] o.k. to blog > [ ] ask first > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and > its affiliated companies. 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Is anyone interested in joining another group, maybe 'closer to home' ? We will not schedule it to conflict with NYC group so you can participate in both if you want.Please email me if you are interested at ellen.rothwax at gmail.com. Thanks again to organizers, presenters and participants for an inspiring and informative workshop. Ellen Rothwax -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Tue Oct 13 19:41:41 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:41:41 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JoomlaDayNYC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AD51035.6080503@wolpow.com> Mitch had the right idea. Philly also wants to have a group. We can serve as the model and work together. Each can hold smaller days and we can all funnel into a larger east coast Joomla day. Think Worldcon ish. [The SciFi convention not the telecom] Scott Wolpow On 10/13/2009 7:08 PM, Ellen Rothwax wrote: > Just want to thank all the organizers for a great JoomlaDayNYC2009. I > would like to take Laura up on her suggestion to start another user > group. I am located in Fairfield CT (about an hour from NYC) and can > provide a venue for up to about 20 participants. Is anyone interested > in joining another group, maybe 'closer to home' ? We will not > schedule it to conflict with NYC group so you can participate in both > if you want.Please email me if you are interested at > ellen.rothwax at gmail.com . > Thanks again to organizers, presenters and participants for an > inspiring and informative workshop. > > Ellen Rothwax > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.15/2434 - Release Date: 10/13/09 19:11:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From li_gordon at yahoo.com Tue Oct 13 20:21:16 2009 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options In-Reply-To: <4AD4F80F.4040903@reuel.net> References: <4AD4F80F.4040903@reuel.net> Message-ID: <367676.20620.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Leam, I used to host my joomla! sites on godaddy and experienced nothing but a lot of problems...I would really encourage your client if you can to migrate to a different host...not only did I have issues because of the godaddy servers, but their support wasn't good if it had anything to do with joomla. I am sure the group can recommend other inexpensive options...I like hostgator.com, but listen to all of the suggestions, I am sure youwill find the right way to go... -- Laura ________________________________ www.RytechSites.com Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! ________________________________ From: Leam Hall To: "SIG at lists.nyphp.org:Joomla" Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 5:58:39 PM Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options ANyone have experience putting Joomla up on GoDaddy? I'd like to do a basic install and ideally have SSH access to the account. Not sure about GoDaddy's service, etc, thus I'd like to do my own. Unfortunately, this is for an existing GD customer so not ready to migrate, even if they could. Thanks! Leam _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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Most of us use a webhosting service to take care of the server. I re-enabled the suggestion list which can be commented on and voted on. There was one thing on the old list from way back when and that's already been done. ________________________________ From: Mitch Pirtle To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 12:11:14 PM Subject: Re: [joomla] Presentation Cool! Anthony totally converted me to LightTPD with his presentation last year at KickApps - maybe that could get a revisit? Another thing I'd like to see us do is a live setup of a Joomla specifically for blogging, using only FOSS goodies. I read all the tutorials, try all the demos, and they SUCK. Tired of using wordpress when I'd like to use Joomla... Anyone want to chair that session? Lastly, we should start adding these topics to the queue on the NYCJUG website, and start lining up speakers. Thanks to the JDayNUC we upped our profile, and need to continue to appear organized ;-) -- Mitch On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > For next month I thought I would present on server maintenance, optimizing > the environment for Joomla Fine tuning etc. > > > -- > *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! ________________________________ From: "masimko at verizon.net" To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 9:15:42 AM Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle From what I'm seeing, it appears that the concern over food grade polycarbonate being a health risk is likely just urban hysteria. http://walking.about.com/od/hydration/f/lexansafety.htm http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/snewsbpa.pdf There are a lot greater risks to my health than that very nice water bottle. I like it and I'm keeping mine. Thank you Dioscouri, and all the sponsors for their generosity. Thanks to the presenters for their remarkable efforts. Thanks to NYCJUG for putting together this great event. Mark Simko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GoDaddy options (Leam Hall) > 2. JoomlaDayNYC (Ellen Rothwax) > 3. Re: JoomlaDayNYC (Scott Wolpow) > 4. Re: GoDaddy options (Laura Gordon) > 5. Presentation topic suggestions and votes --> Re: Presentation > (Donna Marie Vincent) > 6. Re: Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle (masimko at verizon.net) > 7. Re: Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle (Laura Gordon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:58:39 -0400 > From: Leam Hall > To: "SIG at lists.nyphp.org:Joomla" > Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options > Message-ID: <4AD4F80F.4040903 at reuel.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > ANyone have experience putting Joomla up on GoDaddy? I'd like to do a > basic install and ideally have SSH access to the account. Not sure about > GoDaddy's service, etc, thus I'd like to do my own. Unfortunately, this > is for an existing GD customer so not ready to migrate, even if they could. > > Thanks! > > Leam > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:08:01 -0400 > From: Ellen Rothwax > To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org > Subject: [joomla] JoomlaDayNYC > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Just want to thank all the organizers for a great JoomlaDayNYC2009. I would > like to take Laura up on her suggestion to start another user group. I am > located in Fairfield CT (about an hour from NYC) and can provide a venue > for > up to about 20 participants. Is anyone interested in joining another group, > maybe 'closer to home' ? We will not schedule it to conflict with NYC group > so you can participate in both if you want.Please email me if you are > interested at ellen.rothwax at gmail.com. > Thanks again to organizers, presenters and participants for an inspiring > and > informative workshop. > > Ellen Rothwax > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20091013/832f48d1/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:41:41 -0400 > From: Scott Wolpow > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Subject: Re: [joomla] JoomlaDayNYC > Message-ID: <4AD51035.6080503 at wolpow.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Mitch had the right idea. Philly also wants to have a group. We can > serve as the model and work together. Each can hold smaller days and we > can all funnel into a larger east coast Joomla day. Think Worldcon ish. > [The SciFi convention not the telecom] > Scott Wolpow > On 10/13/2009 7:08 PM, Ellen Rothwax wrote: > > Just want to thank all the organizers for a great JoomlaDayNYC2009. I > > would like to take Laura up on her suggestion to start another user > > group. I am located in Fairfield CT (about an hour from NYC) and can > > provide a venue for up to about 20 participants. Is anyone interested > > in joining another group, maybe 'closer to home' ? We will not > > schedule it to conflict with NYC group so you can participate in both > > if you want.Please email me if you are interested at > > ellen.rothwax at gmail.com . > > Thanks again to organizers, presenters and participants for an > > inspiring and informative workshop. > > > > Ellen Rothwax > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.15/2434 - Release Date: > 10/13/09 19:11:00 > > > > > > -- > *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Laura Gordon > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > Subject: Re: [joomla] GoDaddy options > Message-ID: <367676.20620.qm at web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Leam, > I used to host my joomla! sites on godaddy and experienced nothing but a > lot of problems...I would really encourage your client if you can to migrate > to a different host...not only did I have issues because of the godaddy > servers, but their support wasn't good if it had anything to do with joomla. > > I am sure the group can recommend other inexpensive options...I like > hostgator.com, but listen to all of the suggestions, I am sure youwill > find the right way to go... > > -- Laura > > > ________________________________ > > www.RytechSites.com > Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS > Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH > ....the choice is yours! > > JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Leam Hall > To: "SIG at lists.nyphp.org:Joomla" > Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 5:58:39 PM > Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options > > ANyone have experience putting Joomla up on GoDaddy? I'd like to do a basic > install and ideally have SSH access to the account. Not sure about GoDaddy's > service, etc, thus I'd like to do my own. Unfortunately, this is for an > existing GD customer so not ready to migrate, even if they could. > > Thanks! > > Leam > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20091013/a5d1c509/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:58:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > Subject: [joomla] Presentation topic suggestions and votes --> Re: > Presentation > Message-ID: <180410.79129.qm at web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Can we get a list of presentation suggestions and the people who attend > meetings vote on them? I think there are maybe 2 out of the 20 who attend > the meetings that would do anything to the server. Most of us use a > webhosting service to take care of the server. > > I re-enabled the suggestion list which can be commented on and voted on. > There was one thing on the old list from way back when and that's already > been done. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mitch Pirtle > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 12:11:14 PM > Subject: Re: [joomla] Presentation > > Cool! Anthony totally converted me to LightTPD with his presentation > last year at KickApps - maybe that could get a revisit? > > Another thing I'd like to see us do is a live setup of a Joomla > specifically for blogging, using only FOSS goodies. > > I read all the tutorials, try all the demos, and they SUCK. Tired of > using wordpress when I'd like to use Joomla... > > Anyone want to chair that session? > > Lastly, we should start adding these topics to the queue on the NYCJUG > website, and start lining up speakers. Thanks to the JDayNUC we upped > our profile, and need to continue to appear organized ;-) > > -- Mitch > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > > For next month I thought I would present on server maintenance, > optimizing > > the environment for Joomla Fine tuning etc. > > > > > > -- > > *Scott Wolpow* > > *718.275.7765* > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20091014/8f5b11a1/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:15:42 -0500 (CDT) > From: masimko at verizon.net > To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org > Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle > Message-ID: > < > 1873278147.535600.1255526142812.JavaMail.root at vms170009.mailsrvcs.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20091014/8b83ba61/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:34:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Laura Gordon > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle > Message-ID: <546690.51237.qm at web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks Mark...I completely agree...thanks to all of our sponsors for their > generosity! > > -- Laura > > > ________________________________ > > www.RytechSites.com > Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS > Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH > ....the choice is yours! > > JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "masimko at verizon.net" > To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 9:15:42 AM > Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla day: Don't use the water bottle > > From what I'm seeing, it appears that the concern over food grade > polycarbonate being a health risk is likely just urban hysteria. > > http://walking.about.com/od/hydration/f/lexansafety.htm > http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/snewsbpa.pdf > > There are a lot greater risks to my health than that very nice water > bottle. I like it and I'm keeping mine. Thank you Dioscouri, and all the > sponsors for their generosity. Thanks to the presenters for their remarkable > efforts. Thanks to NYCJUG for putting together this great event. > > Mark Simko > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20091014/69005d2e/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > joomla mailing list > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > End of joomla Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13 > ************************************** > -- Terry Kim ************************ email: kim.terry at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From masimko at verizon.net Wed Oct 14 12:11:24 2009 From: masimko at verizon.net (Mark Simko) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:11:24 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Water Jug Message-ID: <1255536684.6550.181.camel@jersey> I like my water jug so much that I'll be using it at the next NYCJUG meeting. I hope that others that feel the same way will also do so. Mark From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 12:42:37 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:42:37 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Water Jug In-Reply-To: <1255536684.6550.181.camel@jersey> References: <1255536684.6550.181.camel@jersey> Message-ID: <330532b60910140942l10a9140mad1018f2017a9b56@mail.gmail.com> I dunno, after drinking a few times I suddenly feel.....feminine. -- Mitch, trying not to cackle too loudly from the basement On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mark Simko wrote: > I like my water jug so much that I'll be using it at the next NYCJUG > meeting. I hope that others that feel the same way will also do so. > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From barrie at compassdesigns.net Wed Oct 14 12:47:11 2009 From: barrie at compassdesigns.net (Barrie North) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:47:11 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Water Jug In-Reply-To: <330532b60910140942l10a9140mad1018f2017a9b56@mail.gmail.com> References: <1255536684.6550.181.camel@jersey> <330532b60910140942l10a9140mad1018f2017a9b56@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <53efb6970910140947r14f8637fk6ab365af3ccb10f8@mail.gmail.com> I have been making my three boys drink out of it every meal time... they have too much testosterone... Barrie North www.joomlashack.com www.simplweb.com/joomla www.compassdesigns.net On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > I dunno, after drinking a few times I suddenly feel.....feminine. > > -- Mitch, trying not to cackle too loudly from the basement > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mark Simko wrote: > > I like my water jug so much that I'll be using it at the next NYCJUG > > meeting. I hope that others that feel the same way will also do so. > > > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 12:54:38 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:38 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Water Jug In-Reply-To: <53efb6970910140947r14f8637fk6ab365af3ccb10f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1255536684.6550.181.camel@jersey> <330532b60910140942l10a9140mad1018f2017a9b56@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910140947r14f8637fk6ab365af3ccb10f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910140954l1bd826bdq41614e685bd66010@mail.gmail.com> Hmm...maybe if I use it every day I could start lactating and give my wife a break at feeding the baby? On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Barrie North wrote: > I have been making my three boys drink out of it every meal time... they > have too much testosterone... > > Barrie North > www.joomlashack.com > www.simplweb.com/joomla > www.compassdesigns.net > > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > >> I dunno, after drinking a few times I suddenly feel.....feminine. >> >> -- Mitch, trying not to cackle too loudly from the basement >> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mark Simko wrote: >> > I like my water jug so much that I'll be using it at the next NYCJUG >> > meeting. I hope that others that feel the same way will also do so. >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From li_gordon at yahoo.com Wed Oct 14 14:36:27 2009 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Water Jug In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910140954l1bd826bdq41614e685bd66010@mail.gmail.com> References: <1255536684.6550.181.camel@jersey> <330532b60910140942l10a9140mad1018f2017a9b56@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910140947r14f8637fk6ab365af3ccb10f8@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910140954l1bd826bdq41614e685bd66010@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <641387.98042.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Maybe it would 'simmer' my boys down a bit? :) -- Laura ________________________________ www.RytechSites.com Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! ________________________________ From: Gary Mort To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 12:54:38 PM Subject: Re: [joomla] Water Jug Hmm...maybe if I use it every day I could start lactating and give my wife a break at feeding the baby? On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Barrie North wrote: I have been making my three boys drink out of it every meal time... they have too much testosterone... > >Barrie North >www.joomlashack.com >www.simplweb.com/joomla >www.compassdesigns.net > > > > > >On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > >>> >>I dunno, after drinking a few times I suddenly feel.....feminine. >> >>>>-- Mitch, trying not to cackle too loudly from the basement >> >>>>On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mark Simko wrote: >>>>> I like my water jug so much that I'll be using it at the next NYCJUG >>>>> meeting. I hope that others that feel the same way will also do so. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >>>>> >>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>> >>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >>>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >>>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >_______________________________________________ >>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From li_gordon at yahoo.com Wed Oct 14 14:57:19 2009 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] survey tool... Message-ID: <350059.52170.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all of you joomla folks...ok it is time to get a survey out for JoomlaDayNYC... any recommendations of non-commercial joomla survey tool??? If not, I see I can use survey monkey...but that is 'non joomla', I think I should use a joomla product, since we are 'joomla'...anyone that wants to work with me in creating this survey, just email me! thanks, Laura ________________________________ www.RytechSites.com Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 16:01:32 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:01:32 -0400 Subject: [joomla] survey tool... In-Reply-To: <350059.52170.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <350059.52170.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910141301g50102b77q84df560b70336a23@mail.gmail.com> LimeSurvey is the open source survey tool: http://www.limesurvey.org/ So I'd say install that before using Survey Monkey. It installs the same way Joomla does, so it's a quick, fun project to learn something new. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Laura Gordon wrote: > Hi all of you joomla folks...ok it is time to get a survey out for > JoomlaDayNYC... > > any recommendations of non-commercial joomla survey tool??? > > If not, I see I can use survey monkey...but that is 'non joomla', I think I > should use a joomla product, since we are 'joomla'...anyone that wants to > work with me in creating this survey, just email me! > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 20:10:03 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:10:03 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Image only menu links without legacy mode? Message-ID: Does anyone know how to enable image only menu links in 1.5 without legacy mode? The Docs give a great solution for this using legacy mode, but really don't want to turn on legacy mode just for this. --? mars "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. 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I've got to say, while his presentation was cut short I did find it shaping up to be the most interesting presentation I attended. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 14:04:31 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:04:31 -0400 Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options In-Reply-To: References: <367676.20620.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910151104q419d1d5ele295a459b2ddd89@mail.gmail.com> Easy on the monkey jokes. Hrmph. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Laura Gordon wrote: > >> I used to host my joomla! sites on godaddy and experienced nothing but a >> lot of problems... > > Yeah, pay peanuts you get monkeys :-) > > > > -- > Aj. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From li_gordon at yahoo.com Thu Oct 15 14:11:16 2009 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Joomla Day/Rafael status? In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910151100u42f88e04x55eeddb73f93ea9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910151100u42f88e04x55eeddb73f93ea9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <324154.62894.qm@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rafael is ok, thanks to everyone for all of the good wishes. -- Laura ________________________________ www.RytechSites.com Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! ________________________________ From: Gary Mort To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 2:00:54 PM Subject: [joomla] Joomla Day/Rafael status? Did I get the spelling correct?[I keep trying to spell it like my son, Raphael] Just wondering if there is a status update on how he was doing? I've got to say, while his presentation was cut short I did find it shaping up to be the most interesting presentation I attended. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 17:56:20 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:20 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Magic Menus !! Message-ID: Does anyone have a copy of Magic Menus? The site is gone, but it's a nice module that lets you easily use alternate fonts in menus. It was still in the JED post-July: http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/structure-a-navigation/menu-systems/image-menus/4886 Alternately another module that does something similar would be great.... ?orest -- -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ The New TLDs are Here! Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.satta at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 21:03:06 2009 From: john.satta at gmail.com (John Satta) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:03:06 -0400 Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options In-Reply-To: <330532b60910151104q419d1d5ele295a459b2ddd89@mail.gmail.com> References: <367676.20620.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <330532b60910151104q419d1d5ele295a459b2ddd89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I host several Joomla sites with A2Hosting. They support the Fantastico script library. Joomla installation is a snap - I was really surprised how painless - even better than Joomla's on installation script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastico_%28web_hosting%29 I suspect any reputable hosting company who offers the Fantastico installer is a good place to start Best regards, -John ______________ John Satta On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Easy on the monkey jokes. Hrmph. > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Laura Gordon wrote: > > > >> I used to host my joomla! sites on godaddy and experienced nothing but a > >> lot of problems... > > > > Yeah, pay peanuts you get monkeys :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > Aj. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at emcsmedia.com Thu Oct 15 22:36:18 2009 From: info at emcsmedia.com (EMCS Media - Info) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:36:18 -0400 Subject: [joomla] GoDaddy options In-Reply-To: References: <367676.20620.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <330532b60910151104q419d1d5ele295a459b2ddd89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003301ca4e09$70b19980$5214cc80$@com> I use Bluehost for all my sites and those of clients and Go Daddy for a client that is not ready to migrate yet. The difference is light years, at every level. Like John mentioned, if a company offers Fantastico or Simple Script it's a good tell. From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of John Satta Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:03 PM To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: Re: [joomla] GoDaddy options I host several Joomla sites with A2Hosting. They support the Fantastico script library. Joomla installation is a snap - I was really surprised how painless - even better than Joomla's on installation script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastico_%28web_hosting%29 I suspect any reputable hosting company who offers the Fantastico installer is a good place to start Best regards, -John ______________ John Satta On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: Easy on the monkey jokes. Hrmph. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Laura Gordon wrote: > >> I used to host my joomla! sites on godaddy and experienced nothing but a >> lot of problems... > > Yeah, pay peanuts you get monkeys :-) > > > > -- > Aj. > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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A few people should have approval rights on hours for a specific project[so when someone is running the rummage sale, they can approve hours there] Total hours worked need to be able to be public or private since I'm not sure if it should be published for all or not. I suspect if I custom coded it, I'd use Sobi2 for the project database, and just code the hour tracking seperately. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Their current system is an archaic paper sign in sheet, and since the the School IT guy has upgraded/redesigned the website in Joomla I'd like to get a decent time tracking app. Real basic functionality: Project names Assembly Members can enter hours worked and assign it to a project. Send hours by web, email, sms text message. A few people should have approval rights on hours for a specific project[so when someone is running the rummage sale, they can approve hours there] Total hours worked need to be able to be public or private since I'm not sure if it should be published for all or not. I suspect if I custom coded it, I'd use Sobi2 for the project database, and just code the hour tracking seperately. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CMS > Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH > ....the choice is yours! > > JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready > for 2010! > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gary Mort > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla > *Sent:* Wed, October 14, 2009 12:54:38 PM > *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Water Jug > > Hmm...maybe if I use it every day I could start lactating and give my wife > a break at feeding the baby? > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Barrie North wrote: > >> I have been making my three boys drink out of it every meal time... they >> have too much testosterone... >> >> Barrie North >> www.joomlashack.com >> www.simplweb.com/joomla >> www.compassdesigns.net >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: >> >>> I dunno, after drinking a few times I suddenly feel.....feminine. >>> >>> -- Mitch, trying not to cackle too loudly from the basement >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mark Simko >>> wrote: >>> > I like my water jug so much that I'll be using it at the next NYCJUG >>> > meeting. I hope that others that feel the same way will also do so. >>> > >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >>> > >>> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> > >>> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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I think subway was something like under $100 for assorted sandwhiches[of course, as a vegetarian, I'd suggest egg salad, but I know you don't get a lot of choice on a budget, so whatever fits] I know we always had a few people showing up directly from work, and expecting everyone to focus and then go eat afterward makes it harder to keep people coming month after month. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folyness at hotmail.com Thu Oct 22 12:01:19 2009 From: folyness at hotmail.com (folyness at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:01:19 -0700 Subject: [joomla] Vacation reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From li_gordon at yahoo.com Fri Oct 23 11:17:31 2009 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] info about events in new england Message-ID: <481893.24934.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, One of our gold sponsors from JoomlaDayNYC, has requested that I send this email out... This is from www.Marlboro.edu For more info please contact: jheslin at marlboro.edu -Open Source Web Development Certificate (fully online) We're offering this certificate fully online starting in January. It's 12 credits, which are all fully transferable to one of our master's programs. The cert covers design, CSS, Joomla!, and web marketing. -Joom-ski Weekend We want to get everyone together for a little Joomla! and a little skiing (2 things we're known for here in Southern Vermont). We're working on the details but it's looking like the weekend of March 6 & 7 for a Saturday of Joomlarificness, followed by skiing on Sunday. Sound good? Let me know. -Joomla! Day New England '10 I know it seems like a long way off, but we're looking forward to doing it all over again next year. We hope you're gonna be joining us for this one as well. thanks, --- Laura ________________________________ www.RytechSites.com Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Fri Oct 23 11:40:01 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:40:01 -0400 Subject: [joomla] info about events in new england In-Reply-To: <481893.24934.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <481893.24934.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AE1CE51.30907@wolpow.com> Looks good for me, If we go skiing will we have to follow the same forks on the slopes? SW On 10/23/2009 11:17 AM, Laura Gordon wrote: > Hi all, > > One of our gold sponsors from JoomlaDayNYC, has requested that I send > this email out... > > This is from www.Marlboro.edu > > For more info please contact: jheslin at marlboro.edu > -Open Source Web Development Certificate (fully online) > We're offering this certificate fully online starting in January. It's > 12 credits, which are all fully transferable to one of our master's > programs. The cert covers design, CSS, Joomla!, and web marketing. > > -Joom-ski Weekend > We want to get everyone together for a little Joomla! and a little > skiing (2 things we're known for here in Southern Vermont). We're > working on the details but it's looking like the weekend of March 6 & > 7 for a Saturday of Joomlarificness, followed by skiing on Sunday. > Sound good? Let me know. > > -Joomla! Day New England '10 > I know it seems like a long way off, but we're looking forward to > doing it all over again next year. We hope you're gonna be joining us > for this one as well. > > thanks, > --- Laura > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > www.RytechSites.com > Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS > Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH > ....the choice is yours! > > JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get > ready for 2010! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.27/2453 - Release Date: 10/23/09 06:56:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From davidalanroth at gmail.com Sat Oct 24 15:46:57 2009 From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David A. Roth) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:46:57 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc Message-ID: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> While moving several Joomla web sites of various versions to a new hosting service, I noticed on the new hosting service that Joomla! 1.0.12 Stable while logged in as Admin had this message: "Following PHP Server Settings are not optimal for Security and it is recommended to change them: PHP magic_quotes_gpc setting is `OFF` instead of `ON` Please check the Official Joomla! Server Security post for more information." Not remembering if it should be ON or OFF or if it matters these days, I downloaded the latest version of Joomla and installed it to do the pre-check installation. It didn't complain about PHP magic_quotes_gpc being OFF. So my big question for this wet Saturday afternoon is, should this be OFF for all modern installations of Joomla, or it isn't a security issue anymore? Yes, I plan to upgrade all the Joomla web sites to the latest. I presume the best way to do this is follow the chain of patches? David Roth From garyamort at gmail.com Sat Oct 24 16:39:08 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:39:08 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc In-Reply-To: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> References: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> It's not a matter of version of Joomla, but rather philosophy of PHP developers. Turning magic quotes on sanitizes variables automatically so they have less potential for causing database injection attacks. Initially, this was suggested as "more secure" because it means the programmer doesn't have to sanitize the data. Then the problem is that big apps[like Joomla] get installed on lots of different platforms, so you can't count on it being turned on. What is worse, is that you have to use 2 different lines of code for retrieving variables based on whether magic quotes is on or off. So when you have software which can be deployed on platforms you have no control over, now one line of code has become 4, because you have to do an if/else clause for every variable retrieval. So what was initially created to aid programmers in being lazy now causes more work for programmers. Hence programmers forced to do more work inaccurately will say it is less secure because their doing more work. The long and the short of it is, magic quotes has no impact on server security. It's the PHP programming that will have that impact. On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, David A. Roth wrote: > > So my big question for this wet Saturday afternoon is, should this be > OFF for all modern installations of Joomla, or it isn't a security > issue anymore? > > Yes, I plan to upgrade all the Joomla web sites to the latest. I > presume the best way to do this is follow the chain of patches? > > > Actually, no you can't upgrade from 1.0 to 1.5 - instead you migrate. Depending on how many components you have this may or may not be painful. The way we did it recently was to create a dev snapshot of a production system. Then installed the migrator component to export all the base joomla stuff. Then we created another dev site and installed 1.5 onto it, importing the migration file during setup. Then we enabled the legacy mode plugin. I copied over the tables for some existing components[advanceSEF and Zoomgallery] and then installed the latest versions of those components to the 1.5 site. We copied over the contents of the 1.0 templates directory and those worked in 1.5 with legacy enabled. Than we updated the templates to 1.5 and turned off legacy mode. Finally once we were sure the site was correct, the dev site was backed up and restored to production. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Sat Oct 24 16:40:40 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:40:40 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> References: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910241340y5280011n415e7b44ea18d5ba@mail.gmail.com> As a side note, I hear there is no legacy mode for 1.6, so it is better to migrate to 1.5 where you can still enable legacy mode while bringing your site into full 1.5 compliance, then wait for 1.6 and have to guess on how to do it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any ideas Gary. :) PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 506, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Warning: copy([path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/impfiles/1-10-16-09wdn.xls) [function.copy]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 358, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 4 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 397, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 5 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 398, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 9 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 405, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 14 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 412, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 15 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 413, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 16 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 414, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 17 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 416, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 18 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 418, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 19 in [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line 420, referer: http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import On 10/24/2009 4:39 PM, Gary Mort wrote: > It's not a matter of version of Joomla, but rather philosophy of PHP > developers. > > Turning magic quotes on sanitizes variables automatically so they have > less potential for causing database injection attacks. > > Initially, this was suggested as "more secure" because it means the > programmer doesn't have to sanitize the data. > > Then the problem is that big apps[like Joomla] get installed on lots > of different platforms, so you can't count on it being turned on. > > What is worse, is that you have to use 2 different lines of code for > retrieving variables based on whether magic quotes is on or off. So > when you have software which can be deployed on platforms you have no > control over, now one line of code has become 4, because you have to > do an if/else clause for every variable retrieval. > > So what was initially created to aid programmers in being lazy now > causes more work for programmers. Hence programmers forced to do more > work inaccurately will say it is less secure because their doing more > work. > > The long and the short of it is, magic quotes has no impact on server > security. It's the PHP programming that will have that impact. > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, David A. Roth > > wrote: > > > So my big question for this wet Saturday afternoon is, should this be > OFF for all modern installations of Joomla, or it isn't a security > issue anymore? > > Yes, I plan to upgrade all the Joomla web sites to the latest. I > presume the best way to do this is follow the chain of patches? > > > > Actually, no you can't upgrade from 1.0 to 1.5 - instead you migrate. > Depending on how many components you have this may or may not be painful. > > The way we did it recently was to create a dev snapshot of a > production system. > Then installed the migrator component to export all the base joomla stuff. > > Then we created another dev site and installed 1.5 onto it, importing > the migration file during setup. > > Then we enabled the legacy mode plugin. I copied over the tables for > some existing components[advanceSEF and Zoomgallery] and then > installed the latest versions of those components to the 1.5 site. > > We copied over the contents of the 1.0 templates directory and those > worked in 1.5 with legacy enabled. > > Than we updated the templates to 1.5 and turned off legacy mode. > > Finally once we were sure the site was correct, the dev site was > backed up and restored to production. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.29/2455 - Release Date: 10/24/09 06:43:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 08:24:19 2009 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:24:19 -0200 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc In-Reply-To: <4AE36B73.8090604@wolpow.com> References: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> <4AE36B73.8090604@wolpow.com> Message-ID: <6142ad2c0910250524n76902c34q4a767e1ed3e4494a@mail.gmail.com> I suggest you go and look into the code at each and every one of these lines. I had this problem more than once and it turned out to be a link path Dreamweaver created while I moved files around. G'luck! 2009/10/24 Scott Wolpow > Having that exact problem with an import function for Adsmanager. Moved to > PHP server and get this error. > Need to figure out how to fix this. Any ideas Gary. :) > > PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 506, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Warning: > copy([path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/impfiles/1-10-16-09wdn.xls) > [function.copy]: failed to open stream: > Permission denied in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 358, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 4 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 397, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 5 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 398, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 9 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 405, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 14 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 412, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 15 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 413, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 16 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 414, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 17 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 416, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 18 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 418, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 19 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 420, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva Rio de Janeiro / New York helvecio.rj at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Sun Oct 25 08:32:27 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:32:27 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc In-Reply-To: <6142ad2c0910250524n76902c34q4a767e1ed3e4494a@mail.gmail.com> References: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> <4AE36B73.8090604@wolpow.com> <6142ad2c0910250524n76902c34q4a767e1ed3e4494a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE4455B.6030206@wolpow.com> Not using Dreamweaver, but thanks. It has to do with the difference between how 4 and 5 handles certain items. Rather than muck with some custom code that was done a few years ago, which I do not get paid for, I am going to move it to a php4 machine. SW On 10/25/2009 8:24 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > I suggest you go and look into the code at each and every one of these > lines. > > I had this problem more than once and it turned out to be a link path > Dreamweaver created while I moved files around. > > G'luck! > > 2009/10/24 Scott Wolpow > > > Having that exact problem with an import function for Adsmanager. > Moved to PHP server and get this error. > Need to figure out how to fix this. Any ideas Gary. :) > > PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 506, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Warning: > copy([path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/impfiles/1-10-16-09wdn.xls) > [function.copy]: failed to open > stream: Permission denied in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 358, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 4 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 397, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 5 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 398, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 9 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 405, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 14 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 412, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 15 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 413, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 16 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 414, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 17 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 416, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 18 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 418, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 19 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 420, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > > > > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva > Rio de Janeiro / New York > helvecio.rj at gmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2457 - Release Date: 10/24/09 14:31:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From garyamort at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 11:37:46 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:37:46 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc In-Reply-To: <4AE36B73.8090604@wolpow.com> References: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> <4AE36B73.8090604@wolpow.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910250837g172d1dd2ycd2dbf9322420d21@mail.gmail.com> Is this upgraded to Joomla 1.5 or PHP 5.2? BTW, stay away from PHP 5.3 and Joomla. It does some weeeeeird things to Joomla. On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > Having that exact problem with an import function for Adsmanager. Moved to > PHP server and get this error. > Need to figure out how to fix this. Any ideas Gary. :) > > There are 2 important errors, 1 is this: > PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 506, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import Which makes me think you went to 5.3 and now have some problems with depreciated functions that were removed. The other is this: > > PHP Warning: > copy([path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/impfiles/1-10-16-09wdn.xls) > [function.copy]: failed to open stream: > Permission denied in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 358, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > Which basically says it is copying the uploaded file from one folder to another, and it is failing due to permission issues. This could be because you didn't set write permissions on the target folder, or more likely because the other error comes from the code retrieving the target folder so instead the folder is becoming the root. Everything else is just the import routine throwing errors because the file it is trying to import does not exist. > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 4 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on line > 397, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import >> >> >> >> > > -- > *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Sun Oct 25 11:51:01 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:01 -0400 Subject: [joomla] PHP magic_quotes_gpc In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910250837g172d1dd2ycd2dbf9322420d21@mail.gmail.com> References: <642abf2e0910241246p51b3f07fj62ad8e340c2dd468@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910241339r604e81ddy118e163bedb39937@mail.gmail.com> <4AE36B73.8090604@wolpow.com> <4bffc350910250837g172d1dd2ycd2dbf9322420d21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE473E5.6030403@wolpow.com> php 5.2.9 Joomla 1.0.X [Avi's site] On 10/25/2009 11:37 AM, Gary Mort wrote: > Is this upgraded to Joomla 1.5 or PHP 5.2? > > BTW, stay away from PHP 5.3 and Joomla. It does some weeeeeird things > to Joomla. > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Scott Wolpow > wrote: > > Having that exact problem with an import function for Adsmanager. > Moved to PHP server and get this error. > Need to figure out how to fix this. Any ideas Gary. :) > > > There are 2 important errors, 1 is this: > > PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 506, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > > > Which makes me think you went to 5.3 and now have some problems with > depreciated functions that were removed. No, still at 5.2.9 > > The other is this: > > > PHP Warning: > copy([path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/impfiles/1-10-16-09wdn.xls) > [function.copy]: failed to open > stream: Permission denied in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 358, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > > > Which basically says it is copying the uploaded file from one folder > to another, and it is failing due to permission issues. This could be > because you didn't set write permissions on the target folder, or more > likely because the other error comes from the code retrieving the > target folder so instead the folder is becoming the root. Target fold is and was 777, first thing I did. so must be the first error again. What next? Really do not want to port it to my old box, which I am shutting down. SW > > Everything else is just the import routine throwing errors because the > file it is trying to import does not exist. > > PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 4 in > [path]/administrator/components/com_adsmanager/admin.adsmanager.php on > line 397, referer: > http://thewdn.com/administrator/index2.php?option=com_adsmanager&act=import > > > > > > > -- > *Scott Wolpow* > *718.275.7765* > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2458 - Release Date: 10/25/09 08:10:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From garyamort at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 13:53:21 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:53:21 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? Message-ID: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> While this is a bit of sour grapes, and I am overall thrilled to see a high profile website[the White House] switiching to an Open Source CMS[Drupal], it does make me think a bit about just what is it with about Drupal that makes it penetrate a bit further at the government level. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/whitehouse_website_goes_open_source/ By the same token, the local county spent the past 6 months building out their tourism associated website. In the end, the functionality leaves me underwhelmed: http://www.ulstercountyalive.com/ For example, the lodging directory is fairly basic functionality - and no rss feeds. I have found Drupal to have a stronger community of tech geeks using it, but a weaker community of functional users. A lot of components for Drupal tend to be "proof of concept' type's, where I can see how they could be extended to something functional, but their not quite there. Joomla, by contrast, has a lot of apps which from a technical perspective are exactly the same but by changing labels and gearing, they are fully functional drop in apps to do something. So why is Drupal making inroads while Joomla seems to be lagging? Any thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Tue Oct 27 15:02:59 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <250419.94650.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think it's politics. ________________________________ From: Gary Mort To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 1:53:21 PM Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? While this is a bit of sour grapes, and I am overall thrilled to see a high profile website[the White House] switiching to an Open Source CMS[Drupal], it does make me think a bit about just what is it with about Drupal that makes it penetrate a bit further at the government level. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/whitehouse_website_goes_open_source/ By the same token, the local county spent the past 6 months building out their tourism associated website. In the end, the functionality leaves me underwhelmed: http://www.ulstercountyalive.com/ For example, the lodging directory is fairly basic functionality - and no rss feeds. I have found Drupal to have a stronger community of tech geeks using it, but a weaker community of functional users. A lot of components for Drupal tend to be "proof of concept' type's, where I can see how they could be extended to something functional, but their not quite there. Joomla, by contrast, has a lot of apps which from a technical perspective are exactly the same but by changing labels and gearing, they are fully functional drop in apps to do something. So why is Drupal making inroads while Joomla seems to be lagging? Any thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kellir at nacm.org Tue Oct 27 15:07:04 2009 From: kellir at nacm.org (Kelli Riley) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:07:04 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JCE Editor and Javascript Message-ID: Hi all, does anyone use JCE Editor with Joomla. I?ve been using it for a while but I would like to insert some javascript to make a popup window and I have javascript enabled in the component but when I go into my article the javascript is still being stripped out. If you don?t use JCE do you have another option for popup windows with Joomla. Thanks, Kelli Kelli Riley Webmaster National Association of Credit Management 8840 Columbia 100 Parkway Columbia, MD 21045 410-740-5560 ext 1004 (p) 410-740-5574 (f) kellir at nacm.org www.nacm.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 15:26:53 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:26:53 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Gary Mort wrote: > While this is a bit of sour grapes, and I am overall thrilled to see a high > profile website[the White House] switiching to an Open Source CMS[Drupal], > it does make me think a bit about just what is it with about Drupal that > makes it penetrate a bit further at the government level. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/whitehouse_website_goes_open_source/ > > By the same token, the local county spent the past 6 months building out > their tourism associated website.? In the end, the functionality leaves me > underwhelmed: > http://www.ulstercountyalive.com/ > > For example, the lodging directory is fairly basic functionality - and no > rss feeds. > > I have found Drupal to have a stronger community of tech geeks using it, but > a weaker community of functional users.? A lot of components for Drupal tend > to be "proof of concept' type's, where I can see how they could be extended > to something functional, but their not quite there. > > Joomla, by contrast, has a lot of apps which from a technical perspective > are exactly the same but by changing labels and gearing, they are fully > functional drop in apps to do something. > > So why is Drupal making inroads while Joomla seems to be lagging?? Any > thoughts? A note of research: Is there an advisory board for open source technologies to the government, and if so who is participating there? This is pretty much the case behind the White House website, AFAICT. That said, this is a good time to compare the state of Joomla versus the state of Drupal. First off, I think Dries' blog post about the White House website using Drupal is an absolute case study in how to perfectly word a major success. His tone, writing style, and message are all dead on the money. Perfectly written. Drupal is very aggressively growing their community as an area of focus, and as such is generating tremendous buzz which in turn feeds their efforts. As well, their approach with the 3PD market is totally opposite what Joomla inherited from Mambo (albeit some major changes these past years). Combine the two and comparatively there's not a whole lot of outreach from the Joomla project, nor aggressive encouragement or enabling of the community for advocacy. Lastly, having a well-funded, well-connected business like Acquia is high risk, high reward for Drupal, as they can focus all of their efforts through one organization, making it easier to target events and get the most out of their available resources. Joomla's commercial developer community is distributed over many small, non-funded businesses that simply don't have the media or executive clout; and lack incentive to band together to be one larger resource to the project (and community). In Joomla's defense, the project is a clear market leader and probably does not see all that outreach work as priority; and it's clear from the outside perspective that they are actively looking for more volunteers to help with the project itself, and need those resources for other things than outreach and PR. Different problems, I'd say. * Drupal - focus is gaining market share, has tons of developers * Joomla - owns the market, focus is looking for more developers (needs reorganization) That also means Joomla will not be a "hot topic" while it is in a somewhat low-key phase, working on all these relatively internal issues. One totally random point that is key: Drupal comes out of the box with loads of social features, and Joomla has NONE by default. With everyone scrambling to be the next big social media hype magnet, first impressions will always lead them to the platform that has all the hip and trendy features out of the box, and that ain't Joomla. That said, my personal take is that Joomla needs to provide some of these features at a bare minimum, and I do believe some of them are targeted for 1.6 at least. Chances are, as the base Joomla distribution closes that social feature gap with Drupal, this perception will change. -- Mitch From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Tue Oct 27 16:03:11 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] JCE Editor and Javascript In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <717663.35071.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have you tried yootools for a popup window? I think it's their YooEffects plugin. ________________________________ From: Kelli Riley To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 3:07:04 PM Subject: [joomla] JCE Editor and Javascript JCE Editor and Javascript Hi all, does anyone use JCE Editor with Joomla. I?ve been using it for a while but I would like to insert some javascript to make a popup window and I have javascript enabled in the component but when I go into my article the javascript is still being stripped out. If you don?t use JCE do you have another option for popup windows with Joomla. Thanks, Kelli Kelli Riley Webmaster National Association of Credit Management 8840 Columbia 100 Parkway Columbia, MD 21045 410-740-5560 ext 1004 (p) 410-740-5574 (f) kellir at nacm.org www.nacm.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at joomlatraining.com Tue Oct 27 17:20:01 2009 From: info at joomlatraining.com (Joomla Training) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:20:01 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> Mitch is dead on by saying its not as simple as J vs D. Seems like this was the culmination of years of work by Drupal people in DC, targeting and learning how to get government contracts. O'Reilly has a blog post on how big these guys are thinking and how professionally they're doing business: http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/10/whitehouse-switch-drupal-opensource.html " ... don't underestimate the difficulty of doing business in Washington. Procurement is done through a complex ballet understood by few open source companies ... a big IT deployment like this requires coordination between many companies, each providing a piece of the puzzle. According to techpresident.com, no fewer than five firms were involved in the switch: prime contractor General Dynamics Information Systems, Drupal specialists Phase 2 and Acquia, hosting provider Terremark, and CDN-supplier Akamai." FWIW, he agrees with Mitch's point about the social features: "Drupal has a huge library of user-contributed modules that will provide functionality the White House can use to expand its social media capabilities, with everything from super-scalable live chats to multi-lingual support." Drupal folk did http://recovery.gov and http://www.nysenate.gov plus http://commerce.gov apparently is coming next: http://www.lullabot.com/articles/bringing-drupal-us-government The flip side is that Drupal has no commercial market to speak of - all the money is in custom work. Steve On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Gary Mort wrote: > > While this is a bit of sour grapes, and I am overall thrilled to see a > high > > profile website[the White House] switiching to an Open Source > CMS[Drupal], > > it does make me think a bit about just what is it with about Drupal that > > makes it penetrate a bit further at the government level. > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/whitehouse_website_goes_open_source/ > > > > By the same token, the local county spent the past 6 months building out > > their tourism associated website. In the end, the functionality leaves > me > > underwhelmed: > > http://www.ulstercountyalive.com/ > > > > For example, the lodging directory is fairly basic functionality - and no > > rss feeds. > > > > I have found Drupal to have a stronger community of tech geeks using it, > but > > a weaker community of functional users. A lot of components for Drupal > tend > > to be "proof of concept' type's, where I can see how they could be > extended > > to something functional, but their not quite there. > > > > Joomla, by contrast, has a lot of apps which from a technical perspective > > are exactly the same but by changing labels and gearing, they are fully > > functional drop in apps to do something. > > > > So why is Drupal making inroads while Joomla seems to be lagging? Any > > thoughts? > > A note of research: Is there an advisory board for open source > technologies to the government, and if so who is participating there? > This is pretty much the case behind the White House website, AFAICT. > > That said, this is a good time to compare the state of Joomla versus > the state of Drupal. > > First off, I think Dries' blog post about the White House website > using Drupal is an absolute case study in how to perfectly word a > major success. His tone, writing style, and message are all dead on > the money. Perfectly written. > > Drupal is very aggressively growing their community as an area of > focus, and as such is generating tremendous buzz which in turn feeds > their efforts. As well, their approach with the 3PD market is totally > opposite what Joomla inherited from Mambo (albeit some major changes > these past years). Combine the two and comparatively there's not a > whole lot of outreach from the Joomla project, nor aggressive > encouragement or enabling of the community for advocacy. > > Lastly, having a well-funded, well-connected business like Acquia is > high risk, high reward for Drupal, as they can focus all of their > efforts through one organization, making it easier to target events > and get the most out of their available resources. Joomla's commercial > developer community is distributed over many small, non-funded > businesses that simply don't have the media or executive clout; and > lack incentive to band together to be one larger resource to the > project (and community). > > In Joomla's defense, the project is a clear market leader and probably > does not see all that outreach work as priority; and it's clear from > the outside perspective that they are actively looking for more > volunteers to help with the project itself, and need those resources > for other things than outreach and PR. Different problems, I'd say. > > * Drupal - focus is gaining market share, has tons of developers > * Joomla - owns the market, focus is looking for more developers > (needs reorganization) > > That also means Joomla will not be a "hot topic" while it is in a > somewhat low-key phase, working on all these relatively internal > issues. > > One totally random point that is key: Drupal comes out of the box with > loads of social features, and Joomla has NONE by default. With > everyone scrambling to be the next big social media hype magnet, first > impressions will always lead them to the platform that has all the hip > and trendy features out of the box, and that ain't Joomla. > > That said, my personal take is that Joomla needs to provide some of > these features at a bare minimum, and I do believe some of them are > targeted for 1.6 at least. Chances are, as the base Joomla > distribution closes that social feature gap with Drupal, this > perception will change. > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at emcsmedia.com Tue Oct 27 18:26:17 2009 From: info at emcsmedia.com (EMCS Media - Info) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:26:17 -0400 Subject: [joomla] JCE Editor and Javascript In-Reply-To: <717663.35071.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <717663.35071.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004801ca5754$811448a0$833cd9e0$@com> Hey Kelli, The best thing to do when you use JCE Editor is to disable it and choose ?No Editor?. Then go to your article and paste your Javascript then Save.It should work. The key is to not save that page again with JCE Editor on cause you would lose the Javascript again. Edin From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Donna Marie Vincent Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:03 PM To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: Re: [joomla] JCE Editor and Javascript Have you tried yootools for a popup window? I think it's their YooEffects plugin. _____ From: Kelli Riley To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 3:07:04 PM Subject: [joomla] JCE Editor and Javascript Hi all, does anyone use JCE Editor with Joomla. I?ve been using it for a while but I would like to insert some javascript to make a popup window and I have javascript enabled in the component but when I go into my article the javascript is still being stripped out. If you don?t use JCE do you have another option for popup windows with Joomla. Thanks, Kelli Kelli Riley Webmaster National Association of Credit Management 8840 Columbia 100 Parkway Columbia, MD 21045 410-740-5560 ext 1004 (p) 410-740-5574 (f) kellir at nacm.org www.nacm.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 19:09:26 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:09:26 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Joomla Training wrote: > The flip side is that Drupal has no commercial market to speak of - all the > money is in custom work. That's the money-quote, as that is exactly where Joomla has been headed dating back to the determination that extensions were derivatives, and therefore subject to the GPL. That was a game-changer for the community, for sure. Not a complaint - no need to rehash old arguments - but this is what the landscape looks like when there are no products, only services. Each direction has their own benefits and disadvantages. I always thought the commercial aspect produced good ol' fashioned competition (and therefore choice for the consumer); however a lack of cooperation makes it difficult for folks to find what they need, and distributes resources doing duplicate effort for the most part. Drupal folks don't have many competing efforts, so your path is relatively clear - and all resources for a given topic are working cooperatively towards a common goal. -- Mitch From barrie at compassdesigns.net Tue Oct 27 19:50:50 2009 From: barrie at compassdesigns.net (Barrie North) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:50:50 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> This has to have been the most insightful and measured discussion of the consequences of the current velocity of the Joomla project's policies. I wish had it have been more public... Barrie North www.joomlashack.com www.simplweb.com/joomla www.compassdesigns.net ~Please note, unless we agree otherwise, the contents of this email are confidential~ On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Joomla Training > wrote: > > The flip side is that Drupal has no commercial market to speak of - all > the > > money is in custom work. > > That's the money-quote, as that is exactly where Joomla has been > headed dating back to the determination that extensions were > derivatives, and therefore subject to the GPL. That was a game-changer > for the community, for sure. > > Not a complaint - no need to rehash old arguments - but this is what > the landscape looks like when there are no products, only services. > > Each direction has their own benefits and disadvantages. I always > thought the commercial aspect produced good ol' fashioned competition > (and therefore choice for the consumer); however a lack of cooperation > makes it difficult for folks to find what they need, and distributes > resources doing duplicate effort for the most part. Drupal folks don't > have many competing efforts, so your path is relatively clear - and > all resources for a given topic are working cooperatively towards a > common goal. > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Barrie North wrote: > This has to have been the most insightful and measured discussion of the > consequences of the current velocity of the Joomla project's policies. > > I wish had it have been more public... > > Barrie North > www.joomlashack.com > www.simplweb.com/joomla > www.compassdesigns.net > > ~Please note, unless we agree otherwise, the contents of this email are > confidential~ > > LOL - enjoying the irony of your comment and your sigfile. :-) Or is irony the wrong word? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From web at kluger.com Tue Oct 27 20:12:55 2009 From: web at kluger.com (Web Project) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Promoting Joomla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <566651.89601.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Want to expand the Joomla-verse? Tired of having sand kicked on you by smaller CMS folks? Here are my prescriptions: "Volume wins." People very very often go with the leader. And that means the volume leader. Plus, the leader in the market automatically creates the largest ecosystem and attracts the most developers, consultants, extensions, etc. So for Joomla, that means telling (and *showing*) people we're the leader. Joomla.org should feature the number of downloads per month top and center--updated every month. And include a drill-down page that shows the historic downloads per month on a graph. Other important numbers that should be on the front page or very visible: * Number of Joomla consultants * Number of Joomla days in the last 12 months and a link to a calendar of upcoming events. * Number of Joomla books (also, see photo idea below). Plus reviews of the books on the site. * Number of extensions * Number of live sites obtained by Googling for the Joomla meta tag. Of course, the actual number will be even higher since the figure won't include intranet sites. Use an asterisk to explain this tidbit. Use a ticker to save real estate. Move the Joomla community, security and Joomla Developers sections of the front page to an interior page. The front page should be focused: * Tell people what Joomla is, that it is the leader, that they can use it by themselves or there are consultants who will help them. People need to know that Joomla is the best answer for creating a web site that a, b or c. (I'll leave it to you all to best define a, b and c.) Currently, the "one-liner" about Joomla (which should be on the front page but isn't) is "Joomla makes creating and maintaining Web sites easy for everyone, from total beginners setting up their first site to IT professionals managing enterprise installations." That's good, but could use additional work. Has it been tested with mainstream people? Perhaps divide the section in two, one for "Web site beginners," another for "IT Pros" and list the Joomla benefits to each under the heading. Look at other sites to see how they simply, yet powerfully tell people why their product should be used. Eg http://basecamphq.com/ -- notice the photos and videos! * A VERY important issue for any tech product is to "Cross the Chasm" (see the book by Geoffrey Moore). This is the issue that most people ("mainstream" people) do not trust visionaries' recommendations. Mainstream people want to get their jobs done and they trust recommendations from other mainstream people. What this means for Joomla: I believe that Joomla has successfully crossed the chasm. This is a very powerful feature of Joomla. Exploit it by featuring stories on the Joomla site about ordinary web sites that are using Joomla successfully. Even a 5 line story would be very good. The Joomla consultants should be able to feed stories about their successful Joomla deployments to the Joomla.org site. As I mention above, I suggest moving the Open Source developers / OS community stuff off of the Joomla front page. Maybe way-off the front page to a sub-site such as community.joomla.org. Why? Once you've crossed the chasm, the HUGE market of the mainstream lies in front of you. And most of that market does NOT want to be part of the Joomla Open Source community. Instead, they want to be part of the Joomla Happy Users Community who Solved Their Problems by Using Joomla. Focus on the latter and the former will also continue to grow. Focus on the OS community, and you'll slow the growth of the general users community. Why? Because most people have much more interest in attending a Joomla day vs doing the OS community work of planning it, running it, etc. To me, that's ok. And to not recognize that the mainstream is quite different than the open source / early adopter / visionary market would mean that Joomla would not grow as fast as it can and should. (Read Moore's book for details on the above. Highly recommended for any technologist who cares about the number of people using his or her product / project etc.) Mainstream people want references from their own industry. This means that the pages on the Joomla site that list Joomla sites should be divided by industry. A mainstream person in the building industry wants to know that other builders (of any sort) are using Joomla. I couldn't convince a religious org that it should use Joomla because I couldn't quickly find a ref site (of a religious org) for them to look at. Marketing takes time. No immediate miracles. But it does need to be a focus. A couple of last ideas for this msg: * The large number of Joomla books is a major deal. I suggest piling ALL of the Joomla books on top of each other, with their spines visible. Put the Joomla 1.0 books at the bottom. Then put that photo on the Joomla front page too. -- I note that currently there are no photos on the Joomla.org page other than two tiny photos of Ron S and a photo of a Joomla backpack. -- ** not good ** (They should all be removed.) Instead, there should be photos of the Joomla books, and photos and videos (short!) of Joomla days, with their captions: Joomla Day in New York City, in xyz, etc. Also videos of happy mainstream Joomla users, etc. Use carousel widgets to display multiple photos. Use news tickers to make things more dynamic. Eg news ticker of sites using Joomla. Hope this is of help.... Please forward it to the Joomla insiders who may not be on this list. Go Joomla! Larry (My degree is in engineering, and I was a developer for a number of years. I then switched to marketing sw at Sun, Remedy and other tech companies.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leam at reuel.net Tue Oct 27 21:24:33 2009 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:24:33 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Promoting Joomla In-Reply-To: <566651.89601.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <566651.89601.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AE79D51.2020907@reuel.net> If someone has $$ to spend on building a web-site they can interact with and maintain, what is important to them? How many people buy a computer with MS on it because of market share, and how many because it runs whatever software they're trying to get going? Is the framework/CMS/Language becoming a commodity in the search for problem solving? What problems need solving and how does Joomla do that? Leam From garyamort at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 12:34:10 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:34:10 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Vent: extensions directory Message-ID: <4bffc350910280934o2738a1c2ua5e27a629fc49dd2@mail.gmail.com> Just a personal vent, I hate the new policy of the extensions directory. I wrote a short little plugin and decided since the number of lines of code were soooo small, the proper license for it was "Public Domain". I had to "wrap" my public domain plugin in a GPL license to publish it there. While I understand the desire to remove the commercial and other Open Source licenses from the directory, the pure GPL policy is annoying. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 13:07:24 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:07:24 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Vent: extensions directory In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910280934o2738a1c2ua5e27a629fc49dd2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910280934o2738a1c2ua5e27a629fc49dd2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910281007o1dc25462ye385da1d0f86616@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Gary Mort wrote: > Just a personal vent, I hate the new policy of the extensions directory. > > I wrote a short little plugin and decided since the number of lines of code > were soooo small, the proper license for it was "Public Domain".? I had to > "wrap" my public domain plugin in a GPL license to publish it there. > > While I understand the desire to remove the commercial and other Open Source > licenses from the directory, the pure GPL policy is annoying. Amen, brother! That's one of the things I said when I heard about the new direction the JED was taking. FIRST, excluding GPL-incompatible extensions simply prods the community to come up with their own JED that is useful to everyone, not just a select group; and SECOND, by requiring GPL-only, the project shut their eyes and plugged their ears to many, many other FOSS licenses that are totally compatible with the GPL. -- Mitch From compustretch at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 14:19:20 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:19:20 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I just got a chance to read this thread and I really appreciate this measured discussion of the Drupal and Joomla development models with respect to their workability for Whitehouse website(s). At the risk of this being a drive-by troll, however (since there really were a number of excellent points made) at some point one really has to acknowledge that the Drupal development model is just a better fit for the way people would like to see the government operate, namely that is a highly co-operative structure with clearly delineated areas of responsibility in a way that Joomla may not disagree with,but has not really effectively implemented. There are quite a number of lower level synergies as well (not to mention the gross disparity in enterprise penetration between the two systems) and without reducing the decision process to a J vs. D polemic, there really are a greater set of affinities on the one side, much more so than the other. Of course one also has to recognize the myriad connections in Drupal's development history with political organisations, (e.g. Dean's campaign, which was really the precursor to Obama's "Internet victory.") Drupal in general just has a much greater involvement in that space. Also (and I realise I run the risk of being snarky here) it wouldn't surprise me if a look at the numbers revealed Joomla was being used in more instances for Republican candidate/official's websites; this is based on actually seeing Joomla used more on that side of the political spectrum. (With the notable exception being a certain unnamed Fox news site.) Not trying to incite a polemical debate here, I'm just sayin? But perhaps the more interesting consideration is framework interoperability, specfically the services (and objects) that each can expose or make use of, and of course a shared semantic framework. So we are not talking about 'which' CMF but how they can be used together. The Drupal roadmap definitely includes GGG; I do not know where Joomla is with this, perhaps someone who does can speak to it. Forest Mars -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. 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This looks to have been initially a developer decision, which turned into a lasting relationship for folks that learned how to use Drupal. IMHO this is still a very compelling story for Drupal, and I'm not trying to detract from it. Just trying to uncover how the decision process was made in order to understand the selection process; and basically learned it was due to familiarity of the developer hired to do the work. Pretty cool, and a recurring theme with open source and government uptake. And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P -- Mitch From sqwang01 at yahoo.com Wed Oct 28 18:49:53 2009 From: sqwang01 at yahoo.com (sqwang01 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:49:53 +0000 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com><825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com><53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com><4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <560840439-1256759171-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403269835-@bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Can I call you on my drive home around 4 30 to 5pm? If so what is the best number to reach you. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Pirtle Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:10:03 To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? I dug around and asked a few people, and the feedback I got on the WhiteHouse.gov site moving to Drupal was simply based on Obama's election campaign being run on Drupal, which was actually chosen by the firm that Obama's campaign chose to hire for building the site. This looks to have been initially a developer decision, which turned into a lasting relationship for folks that learned how to use Drupal. IMHO this is still a very compelling story for Drupal, and I'm not trying to detract from it. Just trying to uncover how the decision process was made in order to understand the selection process; and basically learned it was due to familiarity of the developer hired to do the work. Pretty cool, and a recurring theme with open source and government uptake. And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P -- Mitch _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From cozimek at picnet.net Wed Oct 28 16:13:42 2009 From: cozimek at picnet.net (Ryan Ozimek) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:13:42 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <560840439-1256759171-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403269835-@bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com><825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com><53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com><4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <560840439-1256759171-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403269835-@bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Hi folks, Reporting from inside the Beltway, I personally know the CEO of Phase2. The connections between the Democratic party and Drupal date back to the Dean campaign, and as a business owner in this sector, I've seen the Drupal companies thoroughly dominate in this arena. At the same time, Joomla is still the only open source CMS approved to be used in US Congress (we at PICnet made that happen 3+ years ago) and it's heavily entrenched in NGOs here. I think Larry and Mitch have it right: we simply need to do a better job sharing professionally crafted success stories. This is a big topic that I speak about a lot at Joomla Days and on the OSM Board, and I'm excited to gather best practices from others an move forward in the right direction. Best, Ryan Sent wirelessly. On Oct 28, 2009, at 6:49 PM, sqwang01 at yahoo.com wrote: > Can I call you on my drive home around 4 30 to 5pm? If so what is > the best number to reach you. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitch Pirtle > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:10:03 > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? > > I dug around and asked a few people, and the feedback I got on the > WhiteHouse.gov site moving to Drupal was simply based on Obama's > election campaign being run on Drupal, which was actually chosen by > the firm that Obama's campaign chose to hire for building the site. > > This looks to have been initially a developer decision, which turned > into a lasting relationship for folks that learned how to use Drupal. > > IMHO this is still a very compelling story for Drupal, and I'm not > trying to detract from it. Just trying to uncover how the decision > process was made in order to understand the selection process; and > basically learned it was due to familiarity of the developer hired to > do the work. > > Pretty cool, and a recurring theme with open source and government > uptake. > > And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From leam at reuel.net Wed Oct 28 17:09:21 2009 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:09:21 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Vent: extensions directory In-Reply-To: <330532b60910281007o1dc25462ye385da1d0f86616@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910280934o2738a1c2ua5e27a629fc49dd2@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281007o1dc25462ye385da1d0f86616@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE8B301.4090007@reuel.net> Mitch Pirtle wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Gary Mort wrote: >> Just a personal vent, I hate the new policy of the extensions directory. ... > Amen, brother! That's one of the things I said when I heard about the > new direction the JED was taking. FIRST, excluding GPL-incompatible > extensions simply prods the community to come up with their own JED > that is useful to everyone, not just a select group; and SECOND, by > requiring GPL-only, the project shut their eyes and plugged their ears > to many, many other FOSS licenses that are totally compatible with the > GPL. So, given the current discussion about the organization methods of Joomla and Drupal, does this give a big edge to Drupal? My personal choice is Joomla because I have a book on it, I've worked with it a little, and I know at least one former core-developer. From a technocratic perspective, I have no idea which is better or why, except what I read here. Even then you guys are sometimes over my head. Leam From li_gordon at yahoo.com Wed Oct 28 17:45:11 2009 From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com><825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com><53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com><4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <560840439-1256759171-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403269835-@bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <574473.48813.qm@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would like Joomla.org to showcase sites that have been created by joomla! In addition we should 'recognize' the VP's and Presidents of the large organizations that have chosen to go the Joomla! route... Ryan, is there a good way to do this??? Joomla! has made it to so many different areas...let's shout it out!!! -- Laura ________________________________ www.RytechSites.com Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH ....the choice is yours! JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get ready for 2010! ________________________________ From: Ryan Ozimek To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 3:13:42 PM Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? Hi folks, Reporting from inside the Beltway, I personally know the CEO of Phase2. The connections between the Democratic party and Drupal date back to the Dean campaign, and as a business owner in this sector, I've seen the Drupal companies thoroughly dominate in this arena. At the same time, Joomla is still the only open source CMS approved to be used in US Congress (we at PICnet made that happen 3+ years ago) and it's heavily entrenched in NGOs here. I think Larry and Mitch have it right: we simply need to do a better job sharing professionally crafted success stories. This is a big topic that I speak about a lot at Joomla Days and on the OSM Board, and I'm excited to gather best practices from others an move forward in the right direction. Best, Ryan Sent wirelessly. On Oct 28, 2009, at 6:49 PM, sqwang01 at yahoo.com wrote: > Can I call you on my drive home around 4 30 to 5pm? If so what is the best number to reach you. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitch Pirtle > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:10:03 > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? > > I dug around and asked a few people, and the feedback I got on the > WhiteHouse.gov site moving to Drupal was simply based on Obama's > election campaign being run on Drupal, which was actually chosen by > the firm that Obama's campaign chose to hire for building the site. > > This looks to have been initially a developer decision, which turned > into a lasting relationship for folks that learned how to use Drupal. > > IMHO this is still a very compelling story for Drupal, and I'm not > trying to detract from it. Just trying to uncover how the decision > process was made in order to understand the selection process; and > basically learned it was due to familiarity of the developer hired to > do the work. > > Pretty cool, and a recurring theme with open source and government uptake. > > And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P > > -- Mitch > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Wed Oct 28 18:00:31 2009 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:00:31 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <574473.48813.qm@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com><825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com><53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com><4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com><330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <560840439-1256759171-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-403269835-@bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <574473.48813.qm@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AE8BEFF.5080005@wolpow.com> I will be able to establish the account without the minutes and bring in the signature cards. SW On 10/28/2009 5:45 PM, Laura Gordon wrote: > I would like Joomla.org to showcase sites that have been created by > joomla! > > In addition we should 'recognize' the VP's and Presidents of the large > organizations that have chosen to go the Joomla! route... > > Ryan, is there a good way to do this??? > > Joomla! has made it to so many different areas...let's shout it out!!! > > -- Laura > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > www.RytechSites.com > Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS > Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH > ....the choice is yours! > > JoomlaDayNYC.com We did it!!! Get > ready for 2010! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Ryan Ozimek > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla > *Sent:* Wed, October 28, 2009 3:13:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? > > Hi folks, > > Reporting from inside the Beltway, I personally know the CEO of > Phase2. The connections between the Democratic party and Drupal date > back to the Dean campaign, and as a business owner in this sector, > I've seen the Drupal companies thoroughly dominate in this arena. > > At the same time, Joomla is still the only open source CMS approved to > be used in US Congress (we at PICnet made that happen 3+ years ago) > and it's heavily entrenched in NGOs here. > > I think Larry and Mitch have it right: we simply need to do a better > job sharing professionally crafted success stories. This is a big > topic that I speak about a lot at Joomla Days and on the OSM Board, > and I'm excited to gather best practices from others an move forward > in the right direction. > > Best, > Ryan > > Sent wirelessly. > > On Oct 28, 2009, at 6:49 PM, sqwang01 at yahoo.com > wrote: > > > Can I call you on my drive home around 4 30 to 5pm? If so what is > the best number to reach you. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mitch Pirtle > > > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:10:03 > > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > > > Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? > > > > I dug around and asked a few people, and the feedback I got on the > > WhiteHouse.gov site moving to Drupal was > simply based on Obama's > > election campaign being run on Drupal, which was actually chosen by > > the firm that Obama's campaign chose to hire for building the site. > > > > This looks to have been initially a developer decision, which turned > > into a lasting relationship for folks that learned how to use Drupal. > > > > IMHO this is still a very compelling story for Drupal, and I'm not > > trying to detract from it. Just trying to uncover how the decision > > process was made in order to understand the selection process; and > > basically learned it was due to familiarity of the developer hired to > > do the work. > > > > Pretty cool, and a recurring theme with open source and government > uptake. > > > > And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P > > > > -- Mitch > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.36/2465 - Release Date: 10/28/09 09:34:00 > > -- *Scott Wolpow* *718.275.7765* From compustretch at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 19:09:51 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:09:51 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > > And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P > Yes, that was pretty much my point: McCain/Joomla versus Obama/Drupal. I guess the country has spoken! :-p -Forest Mars -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ x ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ The New TLDs are Here! Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Wed Oct 28 19:15:13 2009 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Forest -- Huh? KickApps is not Joomla. Well, maybe we should get *Oprah* to use Joomla and then we'll take over the country. ________________________________ From: forest mars To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:09:51 PM Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > >>And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P > Yes, that was pretty much my point: McCain/Joomla versus Obama/Drupal. I guess the country has spoken! :-p -Forest Mars -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ x ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ The New TLDs are Here! Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie at compassdesigns.net Wed Oct 28 21:22:20 2009 From: barrie at compassdesigns.net (Barrie North) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:22:20 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Ideas for Survey Questions Message-ID: <53efb6970910281822s508940a0v5404c77083fa523b@mail.gmail.com> Over the last few days there has been lots of interesting discussion about Joomla in a bigger context. Joomlashack is about to launch its 3rd annual Joomla Survey. We have had over 9,000 respondents over these 3 years, and hope get alot more people completing it this year. I thought I would ask the list (based on recent discussion) if there are any useful question the group thinks we could include. Its an opportunity to get several thousand Joomla users weigh in on something. Ideas? Barrie North www.joomlashack.com www.simplweb.com/joomla www.compassdesigns.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 21:45:26 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:45:26 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Donna Marie Vincent < donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > KickApps is not Joomla. > Didn't we already beat this horse to death last year during the actual election? http://palinforamerica.com/ http://palinforamerica.com/administrator I don't know of an scientific survey, but yeah as amusing as it was last year to see Republican candidates using Joomla to try to keep up with an increasing reliance on Drupal by their Democratic opponents, it's was even more so to see Fox launch their Drupal based social media site this year? just as the Obama team was planning all their web site do-overs in Drupal. > Well, maybe we should get *Oprah* to use Joomla and then we'll take over > the country. > Yes, for about 2 weeks until she publicly announces she's already bored with it. And with over 2 million page views a day, I feel bad for the guy who is charged with getting Joomla to scale that far out. :-O -?orest > > ------------------------------ > *From:* forest mars > > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla > *Sent:* Wed, October 28, 2009 7:09:51 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > > >> >> And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P >> > > > Yes, that was pretty much my point: McCain/Joomla versus Obama/Drupal. > > I guess the country has spoken! :-p > > > -Forest Mars > > -- > "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. > In practice, they're completely different." > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > This email is: > [ ] private: do not forward > [ x ] o.k. to forward > [ x ] o.k. to blog > [ ] ask first > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and > its affiliated companies. 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URL: From leam at reuel.net Wed Oct 28 22:06:18 2009 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:06:18 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Ideas for Survey Questions In-Reply-To: <53efb6970910281822s508940a0v5404c77083fa523b@mail.gmail.com> References: <53efb6970910281822s508940a0v5404c77083fa523b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE8F89A.3090700@reuel.net> Barrie, do you have links to the old surveys" Might save me the time of coming up with a brillient question from last year. ;) Leam Barrie North wrote: > Over the last few days there has been lots of interesting discussion about > Joomla in a bigger context. > > Joomlashack is about to launch its 3rd annual Joomla Survey. We have had > over 9,000 respondents over these 3 years, and hope get alot more people > completing it this year. > > I thought I would ask the list (based on recent discussion) if there are any > useful question the group thinks we could include. Its an opportunity to get > several thousand Joomla users weigh in on something. > > Ideas? > > Barrie North > www.joomlashack.com > www.simplweb.com/joomla > www.compassdesigns.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 22:19:57 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:19:57 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Vent: extensions directory In-Reply-To: <4AE8B301.4090007@reuel.net> References: <4bffc350910280934o2738a1c2ua5e27a629fc49dd2@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281007o1dc25462ye385da1d0f86616@mail.gmail.com> <4AE8B301.4090007@reuel.net> Message-ID: <330532b60910281919k7ed6b09q22c5636e9a794b2a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Leam Hall wrote: > So, given the current discussion about the organization methods of Joomla > and Drupal, does this give a big edge to Drupal? > > My personal choice is Joomla because I have a book on it, I've worked with > it a little, and I know at least one former core-developer. From a > technocratic perspective, I have no idea which is better or why, except what > I read here. Even then you guys are sometimes over my head. For me, Joomla is the entrenched heavyweight, and Drupal the brash young upstart with a swagger. Both have large enough communities behind them that you are in good hands - and the best part about this is that you should be just fine whichever you choose. -- Mitch From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 22:24:14 2009 From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:24:14 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <330532b60910281924n709e551dya00b5c8166fc11f5@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:45 PM, forest mars wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Donna Marie Vincent > wrote: >> >> >> KickApps is not Joomla. > > Didn't we already beat this horse to death last year during the actual > election? > > http://palinforamerica.com/ > http://palinforamerica.com/administrator > > I don't know of an scientific survey, but yeah as amusing as it was last > year to see Republican candidates using Joomla to try to keep up with an > increasing reliance on Drupal by their Democratic opponents, it's was even > more so to see Fox launch their Drupal based social media site this year? > just as the Obama team was planning all their web site do-overs in Drupal. > >> >> Well, maybe we should get *Oprah* to use Joomla and then we'll take over >> the country. > > Yes, for about 2 weeks until she publicly announces she's already bored with > it. > And with over 2 million page views a day, I feel bad for the guy who is > charged with getting Joomla to scale that far out.? :-O > > -?orest > > > >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: forest mars >> To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla >> Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:09:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mitch Pirtle >> wrote: >> >>> >>> And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P >> >> >> Yes, that was pretty much my point:? McCain/Joomla versus Obama/Drupal. >> >> I guess the country has spoken! ? :-p >> >> >> -Forest Mars >> >> -- >> "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. >> In practice, they're completely different." >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This email is: >> [ ? ] ?private: do not forward >> [ x ] ?o.k. to forward >> [ x ] ?o.k. to blog >> [ ??] ask first >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and >> its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) >> >> iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra >> 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn >> =MLhk >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The New TLDs are Here! >> Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch >> Support new domains & keep free media free! 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(Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) > > iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra > 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn > =MLhk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The New TLDs are Here! > Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch > Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! > https://secure.name-space.com/registry > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > Donna, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. -- Mitch From leam at reuel.net Thu Oct 29 05:51:13 2009 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:51:13 -0400 Subject: [joomla] DoD status of OSS Message-ID: <4AE96591.70900@reuel.net> Here's some food for thought... http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/10/defense-department-releases-op.html There's a Military-Open Source Software group I'm learning about. They meet and help facilitate OSS use by the DoD. Leam From garyamort at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 06:35:07 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:35:07 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910290335u3f4b4dd0k8317077a8a128213@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:19 PM, forest mars wrote: > > At the risk of this being a drive-by troll, however (since there really > were a number of excellent points made) at some point one really has to > acknowledge that the Drupal development model is just a better fit for the > way people would like to see the government operate, namely that is a highly > co-operative structure with clearly delineated areas of responsibility in a > way that Joomla may not disagree with,but has not really effectively > implemented. There are quite a number of lower level synergies as well (not > to mention the gross disparity in enterprise penetration between the two > systems) and without reducing the decision process to a J vs. D polemic, > there really are a greater set of affinities on the one side, much more so > than the other. > > One thing I do prefer in drupal is that they choose the jquery model. While I prefer to program in mootools when given a choice, mootools is not a good choice for a CMS where you expect to have many people developing applications that work in conjunction with your own. It simply increases the chance of, from the users perspective, random pages not working properly because of javascript function name clashes. Jquery is the appropriate choice when you not might have, but actively encourage the combined of multiple application into one. On the flipside...neither drupal or joomla ensure good code. My experiences with troubleshooting drupal sites have been all negative - but not because of drupal. Because the person who implemented Drupal, rather than using the content management system to...oh...manage content instead goes through and hacks the core code to display little snippets of html on certain pages. So then when someone wants those snippets changed, I have to go through and figure out what he did. :-) > Of course one also has to recognize the myriad connections in Drupal's > development history with political organisations, (e.g. Dean's campaign, > which was really the precursor to Obama's "Internet victory.") Drupal in > general just has a much greater involvement in that space. Also (and I > realise I run the risk of being snarky here) it wouldn't surprise me if a > look at the numbers revealed Joomla was being used in more instances for > Republican candidate/official's websites; this is based on actually seeing > Joomla used more on that side of the political spectrum. (With the notable > exception being a certain unnamed Fox news site.) Not trying to incite a > polemical debate here, I'm just sayin? > > Interestingly, I have found a no political leaning on the Congress websites. Each representative has their own web page, and I don't know if their using a shared server or VPS, but they have a broad mix of different applications. Some ASP based content management systems, a lot of Wordpress sites, and a few Joomla ones. I don't recall seeing Drupal on any. 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In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <878435.7500.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I don't recall discussions from last year re political websites, but the Republican presidential candidate's website was McCainSpace.com which was built by and run on KickApps, which is not Joomla. So until I see some numbers I don't see how this speaks to anything other than propaganda. ________________________________ From: forest mars To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 9:45:26 PM Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > >KickApps is not Joomla. > Didn't we already beat this horse to death last year during the actual election? http://palinforamerica.com/ http://palinforamerica.com/administrator I don't know of an scientific survey, but yeah as amusing as it was last year to see Republican candidates using Joomla to try to keep up with an increasing reliance on Drupal by their Democratic opponents, it's was even more so to see Fox launch their Drupal based social media site this year? just as the Obama team was planning all their web site do-overs in Drupal. >>Well, maybe we should get *Oprah* to use Joomla and then we'll take over the country. > Yes, for about 2 weeks until she publicly announces she's already bored with it. And with over 2 million page views a day, I feel bad for the guy who is charged with getting Joomla to scale that far out. :-O -?orest > > > > ________________________________ From: forest mars > >To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla >Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:09:51 PM > >Subject: Re: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? > > > >On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > > >>> >>>>And for the record, Forest, McCainSpace was KickApps powered. :^P >> > > >Yes, that was pretty much my point: McCain/Joomla versus Obama/Drupal. > >I guess the country has spoken! :-p > > >-Forest Mars > -- >"In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. >In practice, they're completely different." >------------------------------------------------------------------ >This email is: >>[ ] private: do not forward >>[ x ] o.k. to forward >[ x ] o.k. to blog >[ ] ask first >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. 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URL: From barrie at compassdesigns.net Thu Oct 29 09:25:48 2009 From: barrie at compassdesigns.net (Barrie North) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:25:48 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Ideas for Survey Questions In-Reply-To: <4AE8F89A.3090700@reuel.net> References: <53efb6970910281822s508940a0v5404c77083fa523b@mail.gmail.com> <4AE8F89A.3090700@reuel.net> Message-ID: <53efb6970910290625x11a6f2eey49fb752b7bfdeb4a@mail.gmail.com> Here was the 2007 results: http://www.joomlashack.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=194&Itemid=4 Barrie North www.joomlashack.com www.simplweb.com/joomla www.compassdesigns.net On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Leam Hall wrote: > Barrie, do you have links to the old surveys" Might save me the time of > coming up with a brillient question from last year. ;) > > Leam > > Barrie North wrote: > >> Over the last few days there has been lots of interesting discussion about >> Joomla in a bigger context. >> >> Joomlashack is about to launch its 3rd annual Joomla Survey. We have had >> over 9,000 respondents over these 3 years, and hope get alot more people >> completing it this year. >> >> I thought I would ask the list (based on recent discussion) if there are >> any >> useful question the group thinks we could include. Its an opportunity to >> get >> several thousand Joomla users weigh in on something. >> >> Ideas? >> >> Barrie North >> www.joomlashack.com >> www.simplweb.com/joomla >> www.compassdesigns.net >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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We have had >>>>over 9,000 respondents over these 3 years, and hope get alot more people >>>>completing it this year. >> >>>>I thought I would ask the list (based on recent discussion) if there are any >>>>useful question the group thinks we could include. Its an opportunity to get >>>>several thousand Joomla users weigh in on something. >> >>>>Ideas? >> >>>>Barrie North >>www.joomlashack.com >>www.simplweb.com/joomla >>www.compassdesigns.net >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >>>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >>>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >_______________________________________________ >>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have had >>>>over 9,000 respondents over these 3 years, and hope get alot more people >>>>completing it this year. >> >>>>I thought I would ask the list (based on recent discussion) if there are any >>>>useful question the group thinks we could include. Its an opportunity to get >>>>several thousand Joomla users weigh in on something. >> >>>>Ideas? >> >>>>Barrie North >>www.joomlashack.com >>www.simplweb.com/joomla >>www.compassdesigns.net >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >>>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >>>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >_______________________________________________ >>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 11:38:08 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:38:08 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Vent: extensions directory In-Reply-To: <330532b60910281007o1dc25462ye385da1d0f86616@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910280934o2738a1c2ua5e27a629fc49dd2@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281007o1dc25462ye385da1d0f86616@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910290838l72fe9d4cgf3eb95ba204d929@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Amen, brother! That's one of the things I said when I heard about the > new direction the JED was taking. FIRST, excluding GPL-incompatible > extensions simply prods the community to come up with their own JED > that is useful to everyone, not just a select group; and SECOND, by > requiring GPL-only, the project shut their eyes and plugged their ears > to many, many other FOSS licenses that are totally compatible with the > GPL. > > I'm actually ok with the excluding of GPL incompatible licenses. I might not like it, but it seems to me that if the bulk of the current team feels that way, it seems good to me. I just don't like excluding GPL compatible licenses. There is no reason, other than a desire to force others to use GPL, to reject a public domain license. There can be no arguement about wanting to give people choices and freedom and at the same time reject a public domain license. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 11:42:19 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:42:19 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <4bffc350910290335u3f4b4dd0k8317077a8a128213@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910290335u3f4b4dd0k8317077a8a128213@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Gary Mort wrote: > > One of these days I'd like to figure out some way to automatically scan > all 538(9? does DC's non voting rep have a page?) website pages and add up > the CMS's in use. > Do you have a way to easily generate the list of URLs as input? Because just off the top of my head you could take the javascript from the 'which cms' firefox plugin, wrap it in a crunchy php shell and curl your input list through that to concatenate your total into a global. Put a pipe in between with a script to filter the asp url's and I think you're done. Not to be too hand wavvy, but it would be pretty easy to get some rough numbers. Forest Mars -- "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. In practice, they're completely different." ------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is: [ ] private: do not forward [ x ] o.k. to forward [ ] o.k. to blog [ ] ask first -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn =MLhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ The New TLDs are Here! Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! https://secure.name-space.com/registry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 11:51:13 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:51:13 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910290335u3f4b4dd0k8317077a8a128213@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910290851y2eccfcc8x8cf3407a6ca039f8@mail.gmail.com> whichcms? hmm...I'll have to look at that. I expect there is a directory somewhere I can get the urls from, it was building a database to detect cms's that seemed non trivial to me. I'll take a look. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, forest mars wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Gary Mort wrote: > >> >> One of these days I'd like to figure out some way to automatically scan >> all 538(9? does DC's non voting rep have a page?) website pages and add up >> the CMS's in use. >> > > > Do you have a way to easily generate the list of URLs as input? Because > just off the top of my head you could take the javascript from the 'which > cms' firefox plugin, wrap it in a crunchy php shell and curl your input list > through that to concatenate your total into a global. Put a pipe in between > with a script to filter the asp url's and I think you're done. Not to be too > hand wavvy, but it would be pretty easy to get some rough numbers. > > > Forest Mars > -- > "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. > In practice, they're completely different." > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > This email is: > [ ] private: do not forward > [ x ] o.k. to forward > [ ] o.k. to blog > [ ] ask first > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and > its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) > > iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra > 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn > =MLhk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The New TLDs are Here! > Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch > Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! > https://secure.name-space.com/registry > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie at compassdesigns.net Thu Oct 29 11:51:16 2009 From: barrie at compassdesigns.net (Barrie North) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:51:16 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910290335u3f4b4dd0k8317077a8a128213@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <53efb6970910290851k6334ea8fk7a385efeac662f32@mail.gmail.com> got a link to that plugin, I can't find it. Barrie North www.joomlashack.com www.simplweb.com/joomla www.compassdesigns.net On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, forest mars wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Gary Mort wrote: > >> >> One of these days I'd like to figure out some way to automatically scan >> all 538(9? does DC's non voting rep have a page?) website pages and add up >> the CMS's in use. >> > > > Do you have a way to easily generate the list of URLs as input? Because > just off the top of my head you could take the javascript from the 'which > cms' firefox plugin, wrap it in a crunchy php shell and curl your input list > through that to concatenate your total into a global. Put a pipe in between > with a script to filter the asp url's and I think you're done. Not to be too > hand wavvy, but it would be pretty easy to get some rough numbers. > > > Forest Mars > -- > "In theory, theory and practice are exactly the same. > In practice, they're completely different." > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > This email is: > [ ] private: do not forward > [ x ] o.k. to forward > [ ] o.k. to blog > [ ] ask first > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and > its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) > > iQA/AwUBRkjTLDbz7LySoccvEQJDcQCguZZj4M4kOVOlOX4CtbgR0rppsdovAjra > 3RRXIlkdzuYI0YJz4WyvKlTn > =MLhk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The New TLDs are Here! > Switch to Name.Space: http://namespace.org/switch > Support new domains & keep free media free! Register yours today! > https://secure.name-space.com/registry > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 11:55:54 2009 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:55:54 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <53efb6970910290851k6334ea8fk7a385efeac662f32@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271226s447f65fq4bf551a688b32614@mail.gmail.com> <825ba9e90910271420l50b319e5s9fac022a1b4d90e1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910290335u3f4b4dd0k8317077a8a128213@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910290851k6334ea8fk7a385efeac662f32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4bffc350910290855n1a884fb9u59e77f85b41d7a9b@mail.gmail.com> Here is the one I found: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10229 Have too many tabs open to restart my browser and see how it works at the moment. Wrestling with some sata drives that suddenly stopped working. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Barrie North wrote: > got a link to that plugin, I can't find it. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compustretch at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 11:33:50 2009 From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:33:50 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: <878435.7500.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910271609s5d0e7d67oea0478e15d5c89f4@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <878435.7500.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote: > I don't recall discussions from last year re political websites, but the > Republican presidential candidate's website was McCainSpace.com which was > built by and run on KickApps, which is not Joomla. So until I see some > numbers I don't see how this speaks to anything other than propaganda. > > mmmm, troll treats, yummmmm..... ?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From web at kluger.com Thu Oct 29 12:05:55 2009 From: web at kluger.com (Web Project) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Congressional sites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <678877.38513.qm@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here is the list of the official Representatives' sites (members of Congress) http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml Here are the Senators' sites http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Note that each House member and Senator also has an unofficial site run by their campaigns. The above lists are the official sites paid for with your tax dollars. Any statistics on the CMS systems used should include a cross-tab by the chamber (House or Senate) and party (D, R or I) to help spot clustering-- eg using a technology because a favorite vendor uses it. I look forward to seeing the results! Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 13:00:13 2009 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:00:13 -0300 Subject: [joomla] Any thoughts on why Joomla missed out? In-Reply-To: References: <4bffc350910271053if69886fnbc66c2352ad585d1@mail.gmail.com> <53efb6970910271650o4b2ef3c7l331b63a5c83f7095@mail.gmail.com> <4bffc350910271655l2665fbact36a5bbbd3e29a8a8@mail.gmail.com> <330532b60910281210g3c245b0ey8df449f388a4fe8f@mail.gmail.com> <592643.15041.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <878435.7500.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6142ad2c0910291000s798bf789pe1116e00ff015ae4@mail.gmail.com> The brazilian government has chosen to use Joomla in the Ministry of Education webportal. It was launched in March 2009. - http://portal.mec.gov.br/ The ministry demanded a solution where there could be greater interactivity between the ministry and visitors. Several components were developed for the site. The owners of NOIX, the agency that was responsible for this project, were present at Joomla Day Brasil in september. I had the impression things happened this way because they knew Joomla and knew people in the Government. These are the links to a post in NOIX about the new portal and on to their presentation. Even if you don't speak portuguese, I believe you'll get the bigger picture. - http://www.noix.com.br/noticias/portal-mec-no-peixe-grande-2009-chegou-a-hora-de-escolher-o-melhor-site-educacional-do-brasil - http://www.slideshare.net/joomladaybrasil/joomladay-brasil-2008-mec-presentation Regarding governments, I don't think the best choice was THE choice. I don't think Joomla missed out this time. Simply put, It was not there to be evaluated, because Drupal was. If it's there already, why change? Oh by the way, if you want to see more sites made with Joomla, try the Showcase within the Joomla Community website: - http://community.joomla.org/showcase/ -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva Rio de Janeiro / New York helvecio.rj at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leam at reuel.net Fri Oct 30 23:15:56 2009 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:15:56 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Ideas for Survey Questions In-Reply-To: <53efb6970910281822s508940a0v5404c77083fa523b@mail.gmail.com> References: <53efb6970910281822s508940a0v5404c77083fa523b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AEBABEC.50204@reuel.net> Barrie North wrote: > I thought I would ask the list (based on recent discussion) if there are any > useful question the group thinks we could include. Its an opportunity to get > several thousand Joomla users weigh in on something. > > Ideas? 1. Where do you see Joomla utilized? Personal sites SOHO sites Not for profits Private Organization or Groups Governmental bodies (Local, State, National) ... 2. What have you heard the client say the biggest confusion is for their web site? 3. What do *you* think is the clients biggest struggle? 4. How many hours do you take to build a small Joomla site? 5. Using the hours from #4 above, how do you divide up the time? a. Client communications b. Research into Joomla configuration c. Search and research for Joomla Add-ons d. Initial site configuration e. Initial content generation f. Training client in site support g. Fixing client issues 6. How many production Joomla sites have you installed? 7. Referring to #6 above, what percentage were on: a. Windows hosts b. Linux hosts c. Mac hosts d. BSD hosts e. Other hosts 8. When you discuss a CMS with a client, what options do you offer? 9. What percentages of your clients display an informed opinion on the value of one CMS over another? 10. On a scale of 0 (not at all) and 9 (totally grok it), how "clueful" are your clients on: a. Amount of effort to build a medium site b. Understanding of the different Web roles (designer, developer, database programmer, etc) c. Hourly rates for skilled web work d. Managing the web project 11. Reference #10, choice "d". What percentage of your clients: a. Want you do do their specific task list b. Give you a set of objectives and some loose parameters c. Work with you as a 50/50 equal partner d. Look to you for major input decisions e. Give you the login and a "due by" date Barrie, hope that helps. Leam From will_edit_for_food at mac.com Sat Oct 31 20:13:26 2009 From: will_edit_for_food at mac.com (Carol Pinchefsky) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:26 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Moo menu? Message-ID: Hi, people. I have a template that supports something called a "Moomenu dropdown animation effect." Can anyone explain what this actually does? Carol