From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 09:59:52 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:59:52 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Walter Cedric
Message-ID: <4bffc351002010659k6ff8d1a8sc08cec540e3041c6@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone look at Walter Cedric's website?  http://www.waltercedric.com/

The dude has some seriously fascinating dev stuff up there.  He has a
mindmap module for Joomla.

He also did a lot of setup for Joomla component/module development and
integrating it all into a continuous build server environment[using TeamCity
and a lot of other tools].

He even posted to the Joomla developers list offering to help set something
up for the Joomla core...but I get the feeling his offer was ignored.  Kind
of stupid when one considers how many bugs they could avoid using such an
environment.

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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 10:34:50 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:34:50 -0500
Subject: [joomla] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <087995E1-C869-4EE2-B0FA-20F5E5E00E2B@panix.com>
References: <087995E1-C869-4EE2-B0FA-20F5E5E00E2B@panix.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002010734q1f1b1b4eodcef362dcedb9ffa@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Russell <russelld at panix.com> wrote:
>
>

Sometimes, although most folks who know me wouldn't believe it, I'm
speechless too.

-- Mitch


From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 10:54:35 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:54:35 -0500
Subject: [joomla] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002010734q1f1b1b4eodcef362dcedb9ffa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <087995E1-C869-4EE2-B0FA-20F5E5E00E2B@panix.com> 
	<330532b61002010734q1f1b1b4eodcef362dcedb9ffa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002010754k7d04d744u4ff7a72f84f93448@mail.gmail.com>

I believe it.  You remind me of my brother Ken....  Except for one instance,
even when he is "speechless" he has a vast reservoir of BS to spout in it's
place.  :-)

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Russell <russelld at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Sometimes, although most folks who know me wouldn't believe it, I'm
> speechless too.
>
> -- Mitch
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 08:51:20 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:51:20 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Component hunt: favorites and switch user
Message-ID: <4bffc351002030551g24a7b5b3lbccf6ce67247ea96@mail.gmail.com>

I could swear I saw some decent ones...but I think a lot of stuff has been
removed from the JED making it harder to find.

I'm looking for a "my favorites" component/plugin that would allow one to
interoperate with multiple components AND have multiple favorites lists AND
mark lists as public and private.

I would ALSO like to find a component that lets the admin switch to being
logged in as a different user on the front end for testing purposes.

Lastly,  a decent Sifr component would be nice.  I ended up using JSIFR from
club freakout, http://club.freakedout.de/jsifr3-and-jsifr3-pro.html and it
works quite nicely with SIFR files converted from TrueType:
sifrgenerator.com

But it is a plugin and has limited features do to that.


On the plus side, I've found 2 very nice looking tag components to try out
and will post reviews shortly.
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Wed Feb  3 12:30:58 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:30:58 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ninja Super sIFR component recommendation
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1265216402.7492.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.3.1265216402.7492.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <006c01caa4f6$a7898c80$f69ca580$@com>

Hi Gary,
I just finished using Ninja Super sIFR for a site and it works great. Has a
lot of customization options and the developer was very accessible for
answering a couple of questions I had.
Cheers!
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
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Subject: [joomla] Component hunt: favorites and switch user
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I could swear I saw some decent ones...but I think a lot of stuff has been
removed from the JED making it harder to find.

I'm looking for a "my favorites" component/plugin that would allow one to
interoperate with multiple components AND have multiple favorites lists AND
mark lists as public and private.

I would ALSO like to find a component that lets the admin switch to being
logged in as a different user on the front end for testing purposes.

Lastly,  a decent Sifr component would be nice.  I ended up using JSIFR from
club freakout, http://club.freakedout.de/jsifr3-and-jsifr3-pro.html and it
works quite nicely with SIFR files converted from TrueType:
sifrgenerator.com

But it is a plugin and has limited features do to that.


On the plus side, I've found 2 very nice looking tag components to try out
and will post reviews shortly.
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Wed Feb  3 12:33:46 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:33:46 -0500
Subject: [joomla] 1st Joomla site and looking for comments and critique
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1265216402.7492.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.3.1265216402.7492.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <006f01caa4f7$0baa0690$22fe13b0$@com>

Hi All,
I just finished my first Joomla site and was hoping to get some feedback
from those of you who have been doing this for awhile. Please speak your
mind, I want to learn and you won't hurt my feelings ;-)
The site can be seen on my devserver at URL is www.ctsproto.com
Thanks!

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:51:20 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Component hunt: favorites and switch user
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I could swear I saw some decent ones...but I think a lot of stuff has been
removed from the JED making it harder to find.

I'm looking for a "my favorites" component/plugin that would allow one to
interoperate with multiple components AND have multiple favorites lists AND
mark lists as public and private.

I would ALSO like to find a component that lets the admin switch to being
logged in as a different user on the front end for testing purposes.

Lastly,  a decent Sifr component would be nice.  I ended up using JSIFR from
club freakout, http://club.freakedout.de/jsifr3-and-jsifr3-pro.html and it
works quite nicely with SIFR files converted from TrueType:
sifrgenerator.com

But it is a plugin and has limited features do to that.


On the plus side, I've found 2 very nice looking tag components to try out
and will post reviews shortly.
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From therealsrs at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  3 14:56:36 2010
From: therealsrs at yahoo.com (Sean Scott)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:56:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] source control for Joomla
Message-ID: <905478.62634.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi Everyone,

I have a Joomla site hosted with Godaddy. I'm looking for a good source control solution. I am happy with Godaddy so far (although performance can be a little better at times), but I'm open to switching host providers if there are any that provide easy to install source control software. I would like a free solution, preferably one that doesn't allow others to access the code (i.e. some open source sites won't work), but I am also open to paid plans.

Any suggestions?

Best regards,
Sean



      
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 15:42:02 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:42:02 -0500
Subject: [joomla] source control for Joomla
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Message-ID: <4bffc351002031242p3ee5c2ecr55dc8e3ddb4301a2@mail.gmail.com>

Github: http://github.com/ has a range of pay and free plans and options to
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From dreboogs at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 16:00:24 2010
From: dreboogs at gmail.com (DRE BOOGS)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:00:24 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Help please! OScommerce
In-Reply-To: <905478.62634.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <905478.62634.qm@web53806.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021b01caa513$e8f82a60$bae87f20$@com>

First of all, I know this isn't Joomla related but please work with me . I
am working with a firm in BK that had me move their entire site from a
dedicated server from a company to a shared on godaddy. I built a Joomla
site for them and created a subdomain for the store. All of the elements are
there but I don't know how to get the PHP configured to use it on the new
(sub)domain. Any help is appreciated or if you know someone who is great at
PHP, please send them my way. 

Thanks!

Dre

 

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From arzieh at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 16:50:01 2010
From: arzieh at gmail.com (Arzie Hardin)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:50:01 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Component hunt: favorites and switch user - sIFR
Message-ID: <329fadf41002031350v615d945fm986d615f9db07615@mail.gmail.com>

I use ninjaforge.com "Ninja Super sIFR". Works great and is very flexible.

-Arzie




On 2/3/10, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org
<joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org> wrote:
> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
> 	joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>
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> 	http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
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> 	joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Component hunt: favorites and switch user (Gary Mort)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:51:20 -0500
> From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: [joomla] Component hunt: favorites and switch user
> Message-ID:
> 	<4bffc351002030551g24a7b5b3lbccf6ce67247ea96 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I could swear I saw some decent ones...but I think a lot of stuff has been
> removed from the JED making it harder to find.
>
> I'm looking for a "my favorites" component/plugin that would allow one to
> interoperate with multiple components AND have multiple favorites lists AND
> mark lists as public and private.
>
> I would ALSO like to find a component that lets the admin switch to being
> logged in as a different user on the front end for testing purposes.
>
> Lastly,  a decent Sifr component would be nice.  I ended up using JSIFR from
> club freakout, http://club.freakedout.de/jsifr3-and-jsifr3-pro.html and it
> works quite nicely with SIFR files converted from TrueType:
> sifrgenerator.com
>
> But it is a plugin and has limited features do to that.
>
>
> On the plus side, I've found 2 very nice looking tag components to try out
> and will post reviews shortly.
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From janice at onlinesuccessmap.com  Wed Feb  3 17:11:13 2010
From: janice at onlinesuccessmap.com (Janice Gentles-Jones)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:11:13 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla Slide Extension
Message-ID: <037f01caa51d$cc84a480$658ded80$@com>

Can anyone tell me what extension is being used on the www.azrul.com
homepage in the top part of the page where it says JomComment, MyBlog,
JomSocial and NiceTalk?  I like that the thumbnails at the bottom fits the
width of the graphics, unlike the FrontPage Slide Show extension.  Barry is
using something similar on the homepage of www.joomlashack.com.  I can't
seem to find a Joomla extension that does this.

 

Thanks in advanced for any help you can give.

 

Sincerely,

 

janice_sig.png

Janice Gentles-Jones 
JGJ Consulting
Joomla Website Design, Support & Training
(P) 516.333.6578  (F) 516.333.0023
 <http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com/> http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com
 <http://www.techsuccessmap.com/> http://www.techsuccessmap.com 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair

 

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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Wed Feb  3 17:27:53 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:27:53 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4231.1265235088.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.4231.1265235088.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <00af01caa520$21dc4260$6594c720$@com>

Hi Dre,
You will need to modify your .htaccess file in the root directory
(public_html) so the apache server mod_rewrite will point to the
subdirectory.
Check out this article with some info on how to do it;
http://www.drichproductions.com/random-knowledge/rewrite-root-directory-subd
irectory.php

Here is a copy of my .htaccess redirect from a bluehost server;

Hope it works for you :)
Herb T

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
# Use PHP5 as default
AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 .php
# Bluehost.com
# .htaccess main domain to subfolder redirect
# Copy and paste the following code into the .htaccess file
# in the public_html folder of your hosting account
# make the changes to the file according to the instructions.


# Do not change this line.

RewriteEngine on


# Change yourdomain.com to be your main domain.

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(www.)?covenanttek.com$


# Change 'subfolder' to be the folder you will use for your main domain.

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/covenanttek/

# Don't change this line.

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d

# Change 'subfolder' to be the folder you will use for your main domain.

RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /covenanttek/$1

# Change yourdomain.com to be your main domain again.
# Change 'subfolder' to be the folder you will use for your main domain
# followed by / then the main file for your site, index.php, index.html,
etc.

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(www.)?covenanttek.com$
RewriteRule ^(/)?$ covenanttek/index.php [L] 

# This next line of code will prevent the contents of a directory being
# shown if there is no index.html file in the directory

Options -Indexes


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:00:24 -0500
From: "DRE BOOGS" <dreboogs at gmail.com>
To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Help please! OScommerce
Message-ID: <021b01caa513$e8f82a60$bae87f20$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

First of all, I know this isn't Joomla related but please work with me . I
am working with a firm in BK that had me move their entire site from a
dedicated server from a company to a shared on godaddy. I built a Joomla
site for them and created a subdomain for the store. All of the elements are
there but I don't know how to get the PHP configured to use it on the new
(sub)domain. Any help is appreciated or if you know someone who is great at
PHP, please send them my way. 

Thanks!

Dre

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com


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From oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 18:36:30 2010
From: oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com (ozzie sutcliffe)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:36:30 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla Slide Extension
In-Reply-To: <037f01caa51d$cc84a480$658ded80$@com>
References: <037f01caa51d$cc84a480$658ded80$@com>
Message-ID: <13834c051002031536q4b85b27btccfb9e1837a73fe2@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.jquerylightbox.com/pretty-photo-jquery.html  maybe

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Janice Gentles-Jones <
janice at onlinesuccessmap.com> wrote:

>  Can anyone tell me what extension is being used on the www.azrul.comhomepage in the top part of the page where it says JomComment, MyBlog,
> JomSocial and NiceTalk?  I like that the thumbnails at the bottom fits the
> width of the graphics, unlike the FrontPage Slide Show extension.  Barry is
> using something similar on the homepage of www.joomlashack.com.  I can?t
> seem to find a Joomla extension that does this.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for any help you can give.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> *[image: janice_sig.png]*
>
> *Janice Gentles-Jones
> JGJ Consulting*
> *Joomla Website Design, Support & Training*
> *(P)* 516.333.6578  *(F)* 516.333.0023
> http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com
> http://www.techsuccessmap.com
> *"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
> until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair*
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From kimberly at kubalek.com  Wed Feb  3 22:18:59 2010
From: kimberly at kubalek.com (Kimberly Ann Kubalek)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:18:59 -0700
Subject: [joomla] Help please! OScommerce
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From janice at onlinesuccessmap.com  Thu Feb  4 12:59:29 2010
From: janice at onlinesuccessmap.com (Janice Gentles-Jones)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:59:29 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla Slide Extension
In-Reply-To: <13834c051002031536q4b85b27btccfb9e1837a73fe2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <037f01caa51d$cc84a480$658ded80$@com>
	<13834c051002031536q4b85b27btccfb9e1837a73fe2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008701caa5c3$cc0c89e0$64259da0$@com>

Thanks Ozzie.I was hoping it was a Joomla extension.  I'll look into Pretty
Photo.

 

Sincerely,

 

janice_sig.png

Janice Gentles-Jones 
JGJ Consulting
Joomla Website Design, Support & Training
(P) 516.333.6578  (F) 516.333.0023
 <http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com/> http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com
 <http://www.techsuccessmap.com/> http://www.techsuccessmap.com 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair

 

From: ozzie sutcliffe [mailto:oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:37 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla Slide Extension

 


http://www.jquerylightbox.com/pretty-photo-jquery.html  maybe

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Janice Gentles-Jones
<janice at onlinesuccessmap.com> wrote:

Can anyone tell me what extension is being used on the www.azrul.com
homepage in the top part of the page where it says JomComment, MyBlog,
JomSocial and NiceTalk?  I like that the thumbnails at the bottom fits the
width of the graphics, unlike the FrontPage Slide Show extension.  Barry is
using something similar on the homepage of www.joomlashack.com.  I can't
seem to find a Joomla extension that does this.

 

Thanks in advanced for any help you can give.

 

Sincerely,

 

janice_sig.png

Janice Gentles-Jones 
JGJ Consulting
Joomla Website Design, Support & Training
(P) 516.333.6578  (F) 516.333.0023
 <http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com/> http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com
 <http://www.techsuccessmap.com/> http://www.techsuccessmap.com 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair

 


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From scott at wolpow.com  Sat Feb  6 14:00:23 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:00:23 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
Message-ID: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>

Any one have any idea what CMS this is?
Thanks
-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Sat Feb  6 14:18:05 2010
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:18:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
In-Reply-To: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1002061417540.18309-100000@bitblit.net>

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Scott Wolpow wrote:

> Any one have any idea what CMS this is?

What do the URLs look like?


-- 
Aj.



From scott at wolpow.com  Sat Feb  6 14:35:39 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:35:39 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
Message-ID: <dmipiseupxneq2f4qea5r8hb.1265484939955@email.android.com>

/some category/

Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Scott Wolpow wrote:
>
>> Any one have any idea what CMS this is?
>
>What do the URLs look like?
>
>
>-- 
>Aj.
>
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 15:29:00 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:29:00 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
In-Reply-To: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
References: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002061229q4f985c50q134315b90baba9c0@mail.gmail.com>

It's a screenshot, I could  make any CMS look like that.  No branding, no
idea. :-)

However, you can give Wappalyzer a try:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10229

It's a fun little app for firefox, checks for common well known items on a
website and tells you what it knows.  Can detect joomla, drupal, wordpress,
jquery, mootools, and a lot more.
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 15:58:13 2010
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:58:13 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
In-Reply-To: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
References: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <642abf2e1002061258k6f2fb8c9x59932bbd25a60e00@mail.gmail.com>

When looking at a web site through the web browser, do a view source
and see if there are generator tags or the like that give a clue to
what CMS it might be. I know with Joomla, if looking at a Joomla web
site this information is available. Unless it was removed for security
purposes.

When I've been curious about a web page, I've e-mailed the webmaster
to ask and often get a helpful response.

David Roth

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
> Any one have any idea what CMS this is?
> Thanks
> --
> *Scott Wolpow*
> *718.275.7765*


From scott at wolpow.com  Sat Feb  6 16:09:55 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:09:55 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
In-Reply-To: <642abf2e1002061258k6f2fb8c9x59932bbd25a60e00@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
	<642abf2e1002061258k6f2fb8c9x59932bbd25a60e00@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B6DDAA3.9040502@wolpow.com>

I did all that and can not contact webs master.

SW

On 2/6/2010 3:58 PM, David Roth wrote:
> When looking at a web site through the web browser, do a view source
> and see if there are generator tags or the like that give a clue to
> what CMS it might be. I know with Joomla, if looking at a Joomla web
> site this information is available. Unless it was removed for security
> purposes.
>
> When I've been curious about a web page, I've e-mailed the webmaster
> to ask and often get a helpful response.
>
> David Roth
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Scott Wolpow<scott at wolpow.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Any one have any idea what CMS this is?
>> Thanks
>> --
>> *Scott Wolpow*
>> *718.275.7765*
>>      
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>    

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*


From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 16:24:46 2010
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:24:46 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
In-Reply-To: <4B6DDAA3.9040502@wolpow.com>
References: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>
	<642abf2e1002061258k6f2fb8c9x59932bbd25a60e00@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B6DDAA3.9040502@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <642abf2e1002061324p1590700el4a950c64ce4d84d7@mail.gmail.com>

If you have not already done so, do a whois on the domain and see if
there is any contact information there.

David Roth

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
> I did all that and can not contact webs master.
>
> SW
>
> On 2/6/2010 3:58 PM, David Roth wrote:
>>
>> When looking at a web site through the web browser, do a view source
>> and see if there are generator tags or the like that give a clue to
>> what CMS it might be. I know with Joomla, if looking at a Joomla web
>> site this information is available. Unless it was removed for security
>> purposes.
>>
>> When I've been curious about a web page, I've e-mailed the webmaster
>> to ask and often get a helpful response.
>>
>> David Roth
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Scott Wolpow<scott at wolpow.com> ?wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Any one have any idea what CMS this is?
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> *Scott Wolpow*
>>> *718.275.7765*
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
>
> --
> *Scott Wolpow*
> *718.275.7765*
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From scott at wolpow.com  Sat Feb  6 16:32:58 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:32:58 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
In-Reply-To: <642abf2e1002061324p1590700el4a950c64ce4d84d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B6DBC47.4040900@wolpow.com>	<642abf2e1002061258k6f2fb8c9x59932bbd25a60e00@mail.gmail.com>	<4B6DDAA3.9040502@wolpow.com>
	<642abf2e1002061324p1590700el4a950c64ce4d84d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B6DE00A.9020106@wolpow.com>

I know who owns the site. That is not the issue.
I knew I had seen it before, had to recall it.
It is an older version of phpcms.

SW

On 2/6/2010 4:24 PM, David Roth wrote:
> If you have not already done so, do a whois on the domain and see if
> there is any contact information there.
>
> David Roth
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Scott Wolpow<scott at wolpow.com>  wrote:
>    
>> I did all that and can not contact webs master.
>>
>> SW
>>
>> On 2/6/2010 3:58 PM, David Roth wrote:
>>      
>>> When looking at a web site through the web browser, do a view source
>>> and see if there are generator tags or the like that give a clue to
>>> what CMS it might be. I know with Joomla, if looking at a Joomla web
>>> site this information is available. Unless it was removed for security
>>> purposes.
>>>
>>> When I've been curious about a web page, I've e-mailed the webmaster
>>> to ask and often get a helpful response.
>>>
>>> David Roth
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Scott Wolpow<scott at wolpow.com>    wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Any one have any idea what CMS this is?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --
>>>> *Scott Wolpow*
>>>> *718.275.7765*
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>
>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>
>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> --
>> *Scott Wolpow*
>> *718.275.7765*
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>      
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>    

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  7 11:22:41 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:22:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Crappily coded component on sale for $160
Message-ID: <248726.63609.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OMG, this is why you should only use open-source: I bought a (non-GPL) component that was on sale for $160 and the code is full of typos.

css "height" is spelled "hieght" and db inserts are not escaped.



 
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb  8 16:48:01 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:48:01 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Crappily coded component on sale for $160
In-Reply-To: <248726.63609.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <248726.63609.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002081348w3c506164n8a450f51452f4dec@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Donna Marie Vincent
<donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OMG, this is why you should only use open-source: I bought a (non-GPL)
> component that was on sale for $160 and the code is full of typos.
>
> css "height" is spelled "hieght" and db inserts are not escaped.

Another reason why I find myself in the usual position of just rolling
up my sleeves... I know most folks don't code but this is a huge
incentive to learn ;-)

On a slightly related tangent, I'm thinking about a way for 3PDs to
package their custom code so it's easy to share.

-- Mitch


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  8 17:31:54 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:31:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Crappily coded component on sale for $160
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002081348w3c506164n8a450f51452f4dec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <248726.63609.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<330532b61002081348w3c506164n8a450f51452f4dec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <989501.56432.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's exactly what I'm going to do, make my own version of it, but with features that people actually use and want.

It's such a big undertaking, but this is a component I like enough to keep motivated about.





________________________________
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 4:48:01 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Crappily coded component on sale for $160

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Donna Marie Vincent
<donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OMG, this is why you should only use open-source: I bought a (non-GPL)
> component that was on sale for $160 and the code is full of typos.
>
> css "height" is spelled "hieght" and db inserts are not escaped.

Another reason why I find myself in the usual position of just rolling
up my sleeves... I know most folks don't code but this is a huge
incentive to learn ;-)

On a slightly related tangent, I'm thinking about a way for 3PDs to
package their custom code so it's easy to share.

-- Mitch
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From li_gordon at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  9 14:51:07 2010
From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:51:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Feb meeting, this thursday!
Message-ID: <558346.30543.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

don't forget this thursday is our next JoomlaNYC User Group Meeting...

Location:
Rose Building
9th Floor
Lincoln Center
It is in a different room this month (go to the right once you exit the elevator)

Time: 6:30 - 8:30

Networking:
5:30 - 6:15, meet at Lincoln Center's new ATRIUM building if you like
8:30 - 9:30 in meeting room

Some snacks will be provided thanks to JoomlaTraining.org

Agenda:
Chairperson: Rafael, www.Dioscouri.com
- Sebastian to discuss Lincoln Center's new joomla Website
- Gary (if he can make it through the snow) discuss seach plugin
- Mitch discuss Lyftenbloggie
- Rafael give us the official status of Tienda

 
See you all there, and enjoy the snow!

Register on our website online!!
www.JoomlaNYC.org

-- Laura


www.RytechSites.com
Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS 
Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH 
....the choice is yours!
Member of the NYC Joomla User Group...www.JoomlaNYC.org
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 08:01:41 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:01:41 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Hunting for a fix
Message-ID: <4bffc351002100501g42cb7465u4faeea7760df533e@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, this should be easy, but I just can't concentrate long enough on the
site to figure it out:

http://www.huntingforacure.info/

The menu here, using RocketTheme Hive template, is just offcenter, too
short, and ugly.

Any ideas how I can fix it quickly?  Preferably changing background to brown
to match the theme and text to some bright yellow?

I've got the guestbook setup[K2 with a completely neutered security
check.... ok, not completely neutered, it just sets the userid to a specific
"guest" account if no one is logged in....but only for K2, not logged on to
the site!  And the redirect when posting now goes to view the item posted
instead of editing it, since guests can't edit!

Next step is to completely maul the K2 comments section so it only works in
one category and turn it into a silent auction bidding system.
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From dreboogs at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 11:50:43 2010
From: dreboogs at gmail.com (Dre Boogs)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:50:43 +0000
Subject: [joomla] (Joomla) K2 transparent bg
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002100501g42cb7465u4faeea7760df533e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002100501g42cb7465u4faeea7760df533e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1843616866-1265820643-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-985843888-@bda756.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

How can I make my K2 articles have a transparent bg? I've tried editing the style.css:
line 23: #k2Container {padding:0 0 24px 0; background-color: transparent;}

But it has done nothing. 
This is getting in the way as my site color and the K2 bg make the site look like a disaster. 

Thanks for any direction! 


Sent via my DreBerry Bold

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:01:41 
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Hunting for a fix

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From garyamort at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 12:09:32 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:09:32 -0500
Subject: [joomla] (Joomla) K2 transparent bg
In-Reply-To: <1843616866-1265820643-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-985843888-@bda756.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <4bffc351002100501g42cb7465u4faeea7760df533e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1843616866-1265820643-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-985843888-@bda756.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002100909w4ceaec50udf357024314ea6fd@mail.gmail.com>

You also have to edit the dss files for the Khemri administration template.
 Or you can do what I did and delete those 3 style sheets from the code
because they were pissing me off.

What is a dreberry bold?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Dre Boogs <dreboogs at gmail.com> wrote:

> How can I make my K2 articles have a transparent bg? I've tried editing the
> style.css:
> line 23: #k2Container {padding:0 0 24px 0; background-color: transparent;}
>
> But it has done nothing.
> This is getting in the way as my site color and the K2 bg make the site
> look like a disaster.
>
> Thanks for any direction!
>
>
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Wed Feb 10 13:01:42 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:01:42 -0500
Subject: [joomla] (Joomla) K2 transparent bg
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1265821201.20022.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1265821201.20022.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <008b01caaa7b$1ab5ecb0$5021c610$@com>

Hi Dre,
Do you use Firebug or Web Developer for Firefox?
Check to see if there is something in the cascade that is overwriting your
style.
Also, check the <body> style. If your container is positioned you may have a
higher z-index and your looking through your transparent container and
seeing the <body>.
Hope this helps :)
Herb

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:50:43 +0000
From: "Dre Boogs" <dreboogs at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] (Joomla) K2 transparent bg
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<1843616866-1265820643-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-985843888- at b
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Content-Type: text/plain

How can I make my K2 articles have a transparent bg? I've tried editing the
style.css:
line 23: #k2Container {padding:0 0 24px 0; background-color: transparent;}

But it has done nothing. 
This is getting in the way as my site color and the K2 bg make the site look
like a disaster. 

Thanks for any direction! 


Sent via my DreBerry Bold



From dreboogs at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 13:09:45 2010
From: dreboogs at gmail.com (Dre Boogs)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:09:45 -0500
Subject: [joomla] (Joomla) K2 transparent bg
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References: <mailman.1.1265821201.20022.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<008b01caaa7b$1ab5ecb0$5021c610$@com>
Message-ID: <279328281002101009p36efd2f8l642676edbcf69bcf@mail.gmail.com>

 Just installed Firebug on Chrome.
Thanks Gary and Herb! let's see how this pans out...

> Do you use Firebug or Web Developer for Firefox?
> Check to see if there is something in the cascade that is overwriting your
> style.
> Also, check the <body> style. If your container is positioned you may have
> a
> higher z-index and your looking through your transparent container and
> seeing the <body>.
> Hope this helps :)
> Herb
>
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com
>
>
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> From: "Dre Boogs" <dreboogs at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: [joomla] (Joomla) K2 transparent bg
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> How can I make my K2 articles have a transparent bg? I've tried editing the
> style.css:
> line 23: #k2Container {padding:0 0 24px 0; background-color: transparent;}
>
> But it has done nothing.
> This is getting in the way as my site color and the K2 bg make the site
> look
> like a disaster.
>
> Thanks for any direction!
>
>
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From ellen.rothwax at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 14:40:36 2010
From: ellen.rothwax at gmail.com (Ellen Rothwax)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:40:36 -0500
Subject: [joomla] need help with a form
Message-ID: <ebd63fae1002101140n661bc65y380e599be0babeec@mail.gmail.com>

I am using ArtForms on a site and I want the form to be over 2 pages. In
other words, I want the visitor to fill in some info, click on 'next step'
button, fill out more info, upload an attachment and then all of that info
is submitted into the database (and emailed) as if it were one form.

Any suggestions? Is ther another form component that does this?
Ellen


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From chris at theendrecords.com  Wed Feb 10 14:58:59 2010
From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris TheEnd)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:58:59 -0600
Subject: [joomla] need help with a form
Message-ID: <fn4r9r22rf6rlswg0s3c85at.1265831935231@email.android.com>

I had a similiar problem, and found it more difficult then it needed to be, what you can do is some fancy html to make the form really wide, using javascript for your next button to scroll your div over into place and the last side has the submit button.


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Subject:[joomla] need help with a form




I am using ArtForms on a site and I want the form to be over 2 pages. In other words, I want the visitor to fill in some info, click on 'next step' button, fill out more info, upload an attachment and then all of that info is submitted into the database (and emailed) as if it were one form.

Any suggestions? Is ther another form component that does this?
Ellen


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From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 12:38:56 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:38:56 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Search presentation cancelled
Message-ID: <4bffc351002110938q16c08968vd48f16471b87c44a@mail.gmail.com>

At least this month.  Between the incident in front of my house,
http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2010/02/11/blotter/doc4b73906948444557769618.txtand
the snow storm I just can't make in this week...last time I tried to
do
a Skype conference it just ended in disaster.  So... next month?  :-)
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 15:35:10 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:35:10 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Search presentation cancelled
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002110938q16c08968vd48f16471b87c44a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002110938q16c08968vd48f16471b87c44a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002111235u3af64e35r3ca8e70091c7259a@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> At least this month. ?Between the incident in front of my
> house,?http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2010/02/11/blotter/doc4b73906948444557769618.txt

Happens every night in front of mine here in Brooklyn :^P

> and the snow storm I just can't make in this week...

We got a rinse and repeat coming next week two, I hear.

> last time I tried to do
> a Skype conference it just ended in disaster. ?So... next month? ?:-)

I'm hip, we definitely need to start getting presenters lined up in
advance. On the one hand I like the adhoc approach but it does get
harder to plan when you aren't sure who's showing up and whatnot.

-- Mitch


From htucker at covenanttek.com  Thu Feb 11 15:53:24 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:53:24 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Sorry but won't make it to the meeting tonight :(
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1265907601.27797.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.3.1265907601.27797.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <016501caab5c$413bf5f0$c3b3e1d0$@com>

Hi All,
I registered to attend but I'm not going to be able to make it in to the
city tonight.
Hope to see you all in March.
Thanks,
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com


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From kirill at hostnetservices.com  Thu Feb 11 16:01:35 2010
From: kirill at hostnetservices.com (Kirill Poliakov)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:01:35 -0500
Subject: [joomla] AUTO: Kirill Poliakov is out of the office. (returning
	02/16/2010)
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 17:07:41 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:07:41 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Search presentation cancelled
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> I'm hip, we definitely need to start getting presenters lined up in
> advance. On the one hand I like the adhoc approach but it does get
> harder to plan when you aren't sure who's showing up and whatnot.
>

Well, I have a bunch of presentations I can put together so there is always
something in the pipe for last minute cancellations.  I think there are a
number of people who could do that.

I always liked to have 4 30 to 45 minute presentations scheduled for the
next 2 months, with the option of pulling one from next month to this month
as needed.
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From jonas1965 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 19:49:48 2010
From: jonas1965 at gmail.com (Jonas Arnaldo)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:49:48 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Sorry but won't make it to the meeting tonight :(
In-Reply-To: <016501caab5c$413bf5f0$c3b3e1d0$@com>
References: <mailman.3.1265907601.27797.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
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Ohhhh...i forgot about this meeting....all that snow on the ground and a lot
to dig...so, see you all at next month's meeting in March...

Jonas Arnaldo
Computer Craftsman
908-612-9504 - cell
jonas1965 at gmail.com

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
> I registered to attend but I'm not going to be able to make it in to the
> city tonight.
> Hope to see you all in March.
> Thanks,
> Herb
>
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
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> W: www.covenanttek.com
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From scott at wolpow.com  Thu Feb 11 19:58:33 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:58:33 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Sorry but won't make it to the meeting tonight :(
Message-ID: <w3papq1464t19f85e2elhc05.1265936313931@email.android.com>

Sorry you did not make it. 

Jonas Arnaldo <jonas1965 at gmail.com> wrote:

>Ohhhh...i forgot about this meeting....all that snow on the ground and a lot
>to dig...so, see you all at next month's meeting in March...
>
>Jonas Arnaldo
>Computer Craftsman
>908-612-9504 - cell
>jonas1965 at gmail.com
>
>On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I registered to attend but I'm not going to be able to make it in to the
>> city tonight.
>> Hope to see you all in March.
>> Thanks,
>> Herb
>>
>> Herbert M. Tucker
>> Principal
>> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
>> P: 732-497-0326
>> C: 848-218-9172
>> F: 732-497-0326
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>> W: www.covenanttek.com
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From jonas1965 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 21:16:29 2010
From: jonas1965 at gmail.com (Jonas Arnaldo)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:16:29 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Sorry but won't make it to the meeting tonight :(
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Message-ID: <654952931002111816s731fe86fm931dfe438faf5951@mail.gmail.com>

i know....i guess this storm was really big distraction....next month will
be much better!!!

Jonas

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

> Sorry you did not make it.
>
> Jonas Arnaldo <jonas1965 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Ohhhh...i forgot about this meeting....all that snow on the ground and a
> lot
> >to dig...so, see you all at next month's meeting in March...
> >
> >Jonas Arnaldo
> >Computer Craftsman
> >908-612-9504 - cell
> >jonas1965 at gmail.com
> >
> >On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >> I registered to attend but I'm not going to be able to make it in to the
> >> city tonight.
> >> Hope to see you all in March.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Herb
> >>
> >> Herbert M. Tucker
> >> Principal
> >> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> >> P: 732-497-0326
> >> C: 848-218-9172
> >> F: 732-497-0326
> >> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> >> W: www.covenanttek.com
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Fri Feb 12 11:50:38 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:50:38 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Oddball joomla extensions
Message-ID: <4bffc351002120850t17fe06bcjbdedd72afba3ff9b@mail.gmail.com>

Before I reinvent the wheel here, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions
for some nice plugins in the following vein:

1) Googla Analytic event/goal tracking:  I've done this manually three or
four times now and it get's old.  I want a plugin & component system so I
can define events and goals in one component, and then when calling the
system plugin it checks the page and adds the regularly google analytic
tracking as well as the event/goal tracking to the end.  It is simplisity
itself to add it, the main thing is a friendly gui to add it.

Moreover, it should utilize the javascript console.log function to spit that
information out for Firebug to pick up on[speaking of which, anyone know if
a decent version of Firebug is coming for Chrome?].  I Despise having to
wait a day to see what logging information should be going to google, so
this is helpful.

2) Debug to console: instead of sending debugging crap to the screen, I want
to send it to the console.  That way I can leave debugging enabled while
testing, move from network to network, and it doesn't affect the view of the
website.

3) Advanced email functionality.  Choosing email libraries.  Setting a
message queue, etc.

4) Webthumbs image repository: a simple system plugin to check for external
url's on a page AFTER the page is rendered[no reason to slow down the user]
and submit  webthumbs capture based on some rules...  I'll use a callback to
pick the webthumbs up later and update the database[then leading to item 2,
a before render plugin to check for links in the database and swap them out
with webthumbs].

Simple, small, effective libraries.
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 15:52:45 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:52:45 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Pandastream was cool, but Kaltura has me hooked
Message-ID: <4bffc351002131252m632d39ffm4f7293a56a60b79b@mail.gmail.com>

Pandastream seemed to be a really cool video encoding server.  It runs by
default on the EC2 cloud, uses a lot of cool features, is written in Ruby,
and will convert video automatically for iphone, android, and web[note:it
creates flash for the web and something called h264 video which most mobile
phones will play].

But....but...its ruby... do I really want to learn Ruby?  NO!

Kaltura does all that AND is PHP based AND has modules to plugin to Joomla
already.


***swoooon***
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 13 16:46:00 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:46:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Pandastream was cool, but Kaltura has me hooked
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002131252m632d39ffm4f7293a56a60b79b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002131252m632d39ffm4f7293a56a60b79b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <337160.3559.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kaltura is expensive.  I'm sure it's worth every penny but you need deep pockets.


 
________________________________
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________________________________
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 3:52:45 PM
Subject: [joomla] Pandastream was cool, but Kaltura has me hooked

Pandastream seemed to be a really cool video encoding server.  It runs by default on the EC2 cloud, uses a lot of cool features, is written in Ruby, and will convert video automatically for iphone, android, and web[note:it creates flash for the web and something called h264 video which most mobile phones will play]. 

But....but...its ruby... do I really want to learn Ruby?  NO!

Kaltura does all that AND is PHP based AND has modules to plugin to Joomla already.


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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 17:01:10 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:01:10 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Pandastream was cool, but Kaltura has me hooked
In-Reply-To: <337160.3559.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4bffc351002131252m632d39ffm4f7293a56a60b79b@mail.gmail.com> 
	<337160.3559.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002131401w4d5dd8f9r2aa8c7eb8aca9b3d@mail.gmail.com>

Kaltura is open source.
http://www.kaltura.org/kalturace-kaltura-community-edition-getting-started-guide

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <
donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Kaltura is expensive.  I'm sure it's worth every penny but you need deep
> pockets.
>
>
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From fred at avdrive.com  Sun Feb 14 15:04:05 2010
From: fred at avdrive.com (Fred Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:04:05 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1266166801.30094.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1266166801.30094.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <d522ba631002141204v700d3fd0y1bd62eddf8211db@mail.gmail.com>

Video Platforms to integrate. I like Kalatura. If want you set up your own
Kaltura platform you have to set up a "Drupal based implementation" which we
all might not like but you can put it on your own inexpense steaming host
and so does not have to be that expensive has the Joomla module integration
that works.
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 21:57:05 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:57:05 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <d522ba631002141204v700d3fd0y1bd62eddf8211db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1266166801.30094.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<d522ba631002141204v700d3fd0y1bd62eddf8211db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002141857m12b4f420me6c4011dd7f22ad1@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Fred Sullivan <fred at avdrive.com> wrote:
> Video Platforms to integrate. I like Kalatura. If want you set up your own
> Kaltura platform you have to set up a "Drupal based implementation" which we
> all might not like but you can put it on your own inexpense steaming host
> and so does not have to be that expensive has the Joomla module integration
> that works.

This begs the question - if you gotta go through all this effort to
host streaming video, why not take the step to a proper CDN (or at
least Amazon S3) in the first place?

-- Mitch


From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 09:17:15 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:17:15 -0200
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96cadc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

> Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
> spambot treatment.
>
> Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.
>
> Steve
>
>
-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 09:35:07 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:35:07 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96cadc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96cadc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002150635x33b013a5qd589e7dc9c18c047@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
> installation, easy GUI (could be improved).
>
> Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's still
> there.
>
> Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
> than once just to make sure.
>
> I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
> uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D
>
>
> 2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>
>>
>> Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
>> spambot treatment.
>>
>> Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.
>>
>> Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 15 09:57:08 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:57:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <97951.41672.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer and you lose everything. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Mon Feb 15 10:00:29 2010
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:00:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96cadc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1002150959330.28676-100000@bitblit.net>

2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>
> 
> > Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
> > spambot treatment.
> >
> > Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.


Smart move :-)



-- 
A



From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 10:57:31 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:57:31 -0200
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <97951.41672.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <97951.41672.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6142ad2c1002150757h16acd998lc97cf3ff3f1305c2@mail.gmail.com>

I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

> Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
> and you lose everything.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
> <helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
> installation, easy GUI (could be improved).
>
> Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
> still
> there.
>
> Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
> than once just to make sure.
>
> I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
> uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D
>
>
> 2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>
>
> Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
> spambot treatment.
>
> Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.
>
> Steve
>
> I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
> get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
> trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
> Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)
>
> -- Mitch, ducking under his desk
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
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>



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From oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 11:02:34 2010
From: oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com (ozzie sutcliffe)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:02:34 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <6142ad2c1002150757h16acd998lc97cf3ff3f1305c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <97951.41672.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<6142ad2c1002150757h16acd998lc97cf3ff3f1305c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13834c051002150802w6d350e9ehfe96db81179503ad@mail.gmail.com>

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
> happen.
>
> That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)
>
> And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
> handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.
>
> So, why worry?
>
> 2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
>>
>> Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
>> and you lose everything.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
>> <helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
>> installation, easy GUI (could be improved).
>>
>> Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
>> still
>> there.
>>
>> Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
>> than once just to make sure.
>>
>> I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
>> uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>
>>
>> Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
>> spambot treatment.
>>
>> Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
>> get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
>> trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
>> Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)
>>
>> -- Mitch, ducking under his desk
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
> --
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 12:59:27 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:59:27 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Redmine
Message-ID: <4bffc351002150959p78a07f7dma6fa50bd7fc9e258@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
others to try out as well.  So if you want to sign up for an account on my
redmine install and play with it, feel free

http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/

Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
website.....

Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and low
thought:

http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
*
*
*I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it using
the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.*
*
*
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 13:01:39 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:01:39 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <13834c051002150802w6d350e9ehfe96db81179503ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <97951.41672.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<6142ad2c1002150757h16acd998lc97cf3ff3f1305c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<13834c051002150802w6d350e9ehfe96db81179503ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002151001h2892d789k11866d483cbbdcad@mail.gmail.com>

That's why I always setup svn on a remote, BACKED UP server. Has
nothing to do with operating system though :-)

For the Mac, I setup MobileMe for a previous job, and liked it enough
to keep it. You got TimeMachine on a local backup drive, iDisk for
important stuff (stored on the internet) and source code repositories
via svn/git on external servers. Now that's cooking!

-- Mitch


From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 13:06:39 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:06:39 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Redmine
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002150959p78a07f7dma6fa50bd7fc9e258@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002150959p78a07f7dma6fa50bd7fc9e258@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002151006n6a72d995la4291637cee07545@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
> others to try out as well. ?So if you want to sign up for an account on my
> redmine install and play with it, feel free
> http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/
> Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
> website.....
> Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and low
> thought:
> http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
> I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it using
> the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
> memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.

You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free:

* http://heroku.com/

And if that is too much work for you, you got two companies that host
your redmine for you, with additional goodies too:

* https://pmphq.com/
* http://plan.io/en/

Not affiliated with any of the above, just happy to see people FINALLY
attempting to actually manage projects and code :-)

-- Mitch


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 15 13:17:57 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?  Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com> wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



--
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com


_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 15 13:17:57 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?  Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com> wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 13:32:55 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:32:55 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <853210.5403.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <853210.5403.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625@mail.gmail.com>

This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing
for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and
Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta
stick with subversion, you can try one of these:

* http://beanstalkapp.com/
* http://unfuddle.com/

If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source
code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake.

I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and
also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my
project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever
I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to
the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up.
I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than
anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or
falls down the stairs late at night.

In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact
same time is very close to absolute zero:

* external drive fail
* laptop fail
* server fail
* datacenter backup systems fail

And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time
then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website.

-- Mitch


From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 13:35:05 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:35:05 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Here's a thought
Message-ID: <330532b61002151035n6018cd89i33d1f9249d2a865@mail.gmail.com>

For all the mac-users out there, would you be interested in me giving
a session on setting up a MacBookPro for web development? It would
cover using macports, and setting up PHP, apache, MySQL and svn/git.
Also would include how to manage your development workflow with remote
servers and whatnot.

I could probably host it at an Apple Store.

If there's any interest I'll take a look into it.

-- Mitch


From htucker at covenanttek.com  Mon Feb 15 13:45:22 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:45:22 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Here's a thought
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6351.1266258906.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.6351.1266258906.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <00ae01caae6f$08632a80$19297f80$@com>

Mitch,
If you do a similar workshop for the PC crowd deal me in.
Cheers,
Herb

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Today's Topics:

   1. Redmine (Gary Mort)
   2. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mitch Pirtle)
   3. Re: Redmine (Mitch Pirtle)
   4. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Donna Marie Vincent)
   5. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Donna Marie Vincent)
   6. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mitch Pirtle)
   7. Here's a thought (Mitch Pirtle)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:59:27 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: M Konop <mkonop at gmail.com>, "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"
	<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Redmine
Message-ID:
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Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
others to try out as well.  So if you want to sign up for an account on my
redmine install and play with it, feel free

http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/

Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
website.....

Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and low
thought:

http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
*
*
*I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it using
the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.*
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:01:39 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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That's why I always setup svn on a remote, BACKED UP server. Has
nothing to do with operating system though :-)

For the Mac, I setup MobileMe for a previous job, and liked it enough
to keep it. You got TimeMachine on a local backup drive, iDisk for
important stuff (stored on the internet) and source code repositories
via svn/git on external servers. Now that's cooking!

-- Mitch


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:06:39 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Redmine
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151006n6a72d995la4291637cee07545 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
> others to try out as well. ?So if you want to sign up for an account on my
> redmine install and play with it, feel free
> http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/
> Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
> website.....
> Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and
low
> thought:
> http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
> I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it
using
> the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
> memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.

You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free:

* http://heroku.com/

And if that is too much work for you, you got two companies that host
your redmine for you, with additional goodies too:

* https://pmphq.com/
* http://plan.io/en/

Not affiliated with any of the above, just happy to see people FINALLY
attempting to actually manage projects and code :-)

-- Mitch


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Cc: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm at web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your
computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?
Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on
them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver
and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com>
wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Cc: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm at web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your
computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?
Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on
them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver
and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com>
wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:32:55 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing
for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and
Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta
stick with subversion, you can try one of these:

* http://beanstalkapp.com/
* http://unfuddle.com/

If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source
code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake.

I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and
also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my
project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever
I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to
the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up.
I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than
anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or
falls down the stairs late at night.

In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact
same time is very close to absolute zero:

* external drive fail
* laptop fail
* server fail
* datacenter backup systems fail

And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time
then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website.

-- Mitch


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:35:05 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Here's a thought
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151035n6018cd89i33d1f9249d2a865 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

For all the mac-users out there, would you be interested in me giving
a session on setting up a MacBookPro for web development? It would
cover using macports, and setting up PHP, apache, MySQL and svn/git.
Also would include how to manage your development workflow with remote
servers and whatnot.

I could probably host it at an Apple Store.

If there's any interest I'll take a look into it.

-- Mitch


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From steve at sbritton.com  Mon Feb 15 13:46:37 2010
From: steve at sbritton.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:46:37 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Here's a thought
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002151035n6018cd89i33d1f9249d2a865@mail.gmail.com>
References: <330532b61002151035n6018cd89i33d1f9249d2a865@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f1e371d61002151046i3544db60r3d0ad101f711bfef@mail.gmail.com>

Yes. You can count me in.

For the past few years, I have been using Coda (a basic CSS/HTML/PHP
editor), MAMP (portable LAMP set up), and Filezilla for FTP on my
MacBook Pro.

What are you using Mitch?


On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
> For all the mac-users out there, would you be interested in me giving
> a session on setting up a MacBookPro for web development? It would
> cover using macports, and setting up PHP, apache, MySQL and svn/git.
> Also would include how to manage your development workflow with remote
> servers and whatnot.
>
> I could probably host it at an Apple Store.
>
> If there's any interest I'll take a look into it.
>
> -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Mon Feb 15 13:51:31 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:51:31 -0500
Subject: [joomla] source code revision control
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6351.1266258906.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.6351.1266258906.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <00b401caae6f$e47ed280$ad7c7780$@com>

To all,
As a suggested future JUG topic, source code revision control would be
something I would be very interested in learning best practices and best in
class technologies.
I have my own on and off-site backups but I don't currently have a
formalized src version control. Any pointers or directions as to where to go
for more info would be appreciated as I want to get this setup for my
workflow.
Thanks,
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
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   2. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mitch Pirtle)
   3. Re: Redmine (Mitch Pirtle)
   4. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Donna Marie Vincent)
   5. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Donna Marie Vincent)
   6. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mitch Pirtle)
   7. Here's a thought (Mitch Pirtle)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:59:27 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: M Konop <mkonop at gmail.com>, "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"
	<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Redmine
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Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
others to try out as well.  So if you want to sign up for an account on my
redmine install and play with it, feel free

http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/

Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
website.....

Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and low
thought:

http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
*
*
*I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it using
the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.*
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:01:39 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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That's why I always setup svn on a remote, BACKED UP server. Has
nothing to do with operating system though :-)

For the Mac, I setup MobileMe for a previous job, and liked it enough
to keep it. You got TimeMachine on a local backup drive, iDisk for
important stuff (stored on the internet) and source code repositories
via svn/git on external servers. Now that's cooking!

-- Mitch


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:06:39 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Redmine
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151006n6a72d995la4291637cee07545 at mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
> others to try out as well. ?So if you want to sign up for an account on my
> redmine install and play with it, feel free
> http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/
> Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
> website.....
> Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and
low
> thought:
> http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
> I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it
using
> the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
> memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.

You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free:

* http://heroku.com/

And if that is too much work for you, you got two companies that host
your redmine for you, with additional goodies too:

* https://pmphq.com/
* http://plan.io/en/

Not affiliated with any of the above, just happy to see people FINALLY
attempting to actually manage projects and code :-)

-- Mitch


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Cc: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm at web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your
computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?
Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on
them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver
and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com>
wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Cc: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm at web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your
computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?
Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on
them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver
and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com>
wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:32:55 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing
for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and
Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta
stick with subversion, you can try one of these:

* http://beanstalkapp.com/
* http://unfuddle.com/

If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source
code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake.

I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and
also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my
project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever
I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to
the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up.
I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than
anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or
falls down the stairs late at night.

In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact
same time is very close to absolute zero:

* external drive fail
* laptop fail
* server fail
* datacenter backup systems fail

And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time
then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website.

-- Mitch


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:35:05 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Here's a thought
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151035n6018cd89i33d1f9249d2a865 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

For all the mac-users out there, would you be interested in me giving
a session on setting up a MacBookPro for web development? It would
cover using macports, and setting up PHP, apache, MySQL and svn/git.
Also would include how to manage your development workflow with remote
servers and whatnot.

I could probably host it at an Apple Store.

If there's any interest I'll take a look into it.

-- Mitch


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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 14:37:01 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:37:01 -0200
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625@mail.gmail.com>
References: <853210.5403.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6142ad2c1002151137s3aa2a7fbs3c07e4c181bd735@mail.gmail.com>

This sure was an eye-opener! Thanks!

2010/2/15 Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>

> This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing
> for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and
> Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta
> stick with subversion, you can try one of these:
>
> * http://beanstalkapp.com/
> * http://unfuddle.com/
>
> If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source
> code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake.
>
> I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and
> also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my
> project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever
> I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to
> the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up.
> I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than
> anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or
> falls down the stairs late at night.
>
> In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact
> same time is very close to absolute zero:
>
> * external drive fail
> * laptop fail
> * server fail
> * datacenter backup systems fail
>
> And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time
> then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website.
>
> -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Mon Feb 15 15:56:36 2010
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:56:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1002151552490.28676-100000@bitblit.net>

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> * http://beanstalkapp.com/
> * http://unfuddle.com/

http://www.sourcerepo.com

Oh and cvsdude is now Codesion http://codesion.com (despite the old name, 
they have been doing svn for years).


-- 
Aj.



From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 16:37:45 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:37:45 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Redmine
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002151006n6a72d995la4291637cee07545@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002150959p78a07f7dma6fa50bd7fc9e258@mail.gmail.com> 
	<330532b61002151006n6a72d995la4291637cee07545@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002151337k1a399eem220fe7a33c7dd24b@mail.gmail.com>

Heroku looks quit a bit better in terms of quality, setup and support.

I had to really bend Media Temple in a few places to get this up.    I think
after doing that...I might go to Heroku's personal account instead and save
some time/effort... of course, then I have to figure out how to export what
little I have first. :-)


On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free:
>
> * http://heroku.com/
>
>
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From masimko at verizon.net  Mon Feb 15 16:53:55 2010
From: masimko at verizon.net (Mark Simko)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:53:55 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6326.1266249759.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.6326.1266249759.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <1266270835.6546.453.camel@jersey>

On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:02 -0500, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:17:15 -0200
> From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
> Message-ID:
>         <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96cadc at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
> installation, easy GUI (could be improved).
> 
> Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
> still
> there.
> 
> Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those
> more
> than once just to make sure.
> 
> I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
> uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D
> 

Sounds like the digital version of turducken to me!

Doesn't Mac have apache/php/mysql? If not, why not just run a LAMP
server?




From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb 15 20:11:18 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:18 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <1266270835.6546.453.camel@jersey>
References: <mailman.6326.1266249759.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org> 
	<1266270835.6546.453.camel@jersey>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002151711i73761a1bq1921fbd3be91afe3@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Sounds like the digital version of turducken to me!
>
> Doesn't Mac have apache/php/mysql? If not, why not just run a LAMP
> server?
>
>
I run MAMP Pro......  why MAMP instead of just running my own?

Because it makes it very very easy to add new virtual hosts...sure I CAN
edit the config files, but for 50 bucks I save myself a few hours of
remembering each time.

I also do it a bit...'weirdly'?

For mydomain.com I have the following subdomains now setup:

*.site.mydomain.com
*.test.mydomain.com
*.dev.mydomain.com

These are wildcard entrees up on my DNS provider[DNS Made Easy] - they match
ANY domains under those subdomains.

both site and test point to my hosting provider's ip address.

all devs point to 127.0.0.1

So, now when I want to do development, I add a virtual host to my local
system, somewebsite.dev.mydomain.com
On my own webserver, I also add somewebsite.test.mydomain.com AND
somewebsite.site.mydomain.com

So now, any changes on my local system can be tested and played with
there[and I can even setup a local hosts file for offline testing].

Then I push changes up to dev when I'm ready to test there, and site for the
client to be able to look at.

Everything is under MY control.

Ready to deploy?  Just joomlapack site and then restore.


As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it.  Finally
getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar.  It seems to have all the
benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on
assuming you are developing an operating system.
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Tue Feb 16 08:23:06 2010
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:23:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002151711i73761a1bq1921fbd3be91afe3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1002160822000.28676-100000@bitblit.net>

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:

> As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it.  Finally
> getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar.  It seems to have all the
> benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on
> assuming you are developing an operating system.

Interesting choice - did you look at Mercurial?


-- 
Aj.



From garyamort at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 09:03:31 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:03:31 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1002160822000.28676-100000@bitblit.net>
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
>
> > As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it.  Finally
> > getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar.  It seems to have all
> the
> > benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on
> > assuming you are developing an operating system.
>
> Interesting choice - did you look at Mercurial?
>
>
Yes, Mercurial was high on my list.  Bazaar just feels right.  I'm still
flipflopping though, there are more people using Mercurial than Bazaar and
Pragmatic Pub has a book in Mercurial...so I might end up going with it
instead.

I just have to stop stressing and decide.
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From oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com  Tue Feb 16 13:22:14 2010
From: oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com (ozzie sutcliffe)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:22:14 -0500
Subject: [joomla] speaking of dead hard drives
Message-ID: <13834c051002161022h79595e2fk3c3a289aef4f083b@mail.gmail.com>

I just had a friend give me a Gateway laptop to fix ..
Dead as a link to CB Simulator on Compuserve
No power no light no nothing power supply is OK

What to do now  ? swap hard drive  to know good machine ..
Drat dreaded 000000000007x error. cause the drivers etc are not even close


http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html  get a knoppix live boot CD

You could boot from flash also ..

attach flash drive

Boot live CD select 12
Nice gui interface ( a tad clunky at times ) turn off screensaver.
start
system tools
PCMan File Manager  will give you a file manager which you can move
the files to the flash drive.
Or you can map to a network share etc..


Maybe it a good time to make a txt file with the arcane paths to your
stuff and put it in the C drive makes it easier to find when under
fire  LOL

This is for windows I am sure a Mac is very close to the same except
for different file paths.

Oh if the drive is dead as in physically this will not work , but its
worth a try..

oz


From htucker at covenanttek.com  Wed Feb 17 09:17:19 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:17:19 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Version control and binary files
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Hi All,
Mitch managed to put a bee in my bonnet about version control of my project
files and I've spent the last 10 hours reviewing different options and have
done some tests with Mercurial and TortoiseHg.
What I've run into is an issue with versioning binary files. 
I would like to know how people are handling this. Hg, Subversion and CVS
seem to provide some work arounds but they all look a little ugly and if
there is a better way I would love to hear about it.
Thanks,
Herb

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   2. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Ajai Khattri)
   3. Re: Redmine (Gary Mort)
   4. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mark Simko)
   5. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Gary Mort)
   6. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Ajai Khattri)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:37:01 -0200
From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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This sure was an eye-opener! Thanks!

2010/2/15 Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>

> This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing
> for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and
> Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta
> stick with subversion, you can try one of these:
>
> * http://beanstalkapp.com/
> * http://unfuddle.com/
>
> If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source
> code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake.
>
> I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and
> also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my
> project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever
> I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to
> the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up.
> I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than
> anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or
> falls down the stairs late at night.
>
> In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact
> same time is very close to absolute zero:
>
> * external drive fail
> * laptop fail
> * server fail
> * datacenter backup systems fail
>
> And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time
> then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website.
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:56:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Mitch Pirtle wrote:

> * http://beanstalkapp.com/
> * http://unfuddle.com/

http://www.sourcerepo.com

Oh and cvsdude is now Codesion http://codesion.com (despite the old name, 
they have been doing svn for years).


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:37:45 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Redmine
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Heroku looks quit a bit better in terms of quality, setup and support.

I had to really bend Media Temple in a few places to get this up.    I think
after doing that...I might go to Heroku's personal account instead and save
some time/effort... of course, then I have to figure out how to export what
little I have first. :-)


On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free:
>
> * http://heroku.com/
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:53:55 -0500
From: Mark Simko <masimko at verizon.net>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:02 -0500, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:17:15 -0200
> From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
> Message-ID:
>         <6142ad2c1002150617y6fe2347dl422fa7b6de96cadc at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
> installation, easy GUI (could be improved).
> 
> Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
> still
> there.
> 
> Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those
> more
> than once just to make sure.
> 
> I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
> uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D
> 

Sounds like the digital version of turducken to me!

Doesn't Mac have apache/php/mysql? If not, why not just run a LAMP
server?




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:18 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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>
> Sounds like the digital version of turducken to me!
>
> Doesn't Mac have apache/php/mysql? If not, why not just run a LAMP
> server?
>
>
I run MAMP Pro......  why MAMP instead of just running my own?

Because it makes it very very easy to add new virtual hosts...sure I CAN
edit the config files, but for 50 bucks I save myself a few hours of
remembering each time.

I also do it a bit...'weirdly'?

For mydomain.com I have the following subdomains now setup:

*.site.mydomain.com
*.test.mydomain.com
*.dev.mydomain.com

These are wildcard entrees up on my DNS provider[DNS Made Easy] - they match
ANY domains under those subdomains.

both site and test point to my hosting provider's ip address.

all devs point to 127.0.0.1

So, now when I want to do development, I add a virtual host to my local
system, somewebsite.dev.mydomain.com
On my own webserver, I also add somewebsite.test.mydomain.com AND
somewebsite.site.mydomain.com

So now, any changes on my local system can be tested and played with
there[and I can even setup a local hosts file for offline testing].

Then I push changes up to dev when I'm ready to test there, and site for the
client to be able to look at.

Everything is under MY control.

Ready to deploy?  Just joomlapack site and then restore.


As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it.  Finally
getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar.  It seems to have all the
benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on
assuming you are developing an operating system.
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:23:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:

> As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it.  Finally
> getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar.  It seems to have all
the
> benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on
> assuming you are developing an operating system.

Interesting choice - did you look at Mercurial?


-- 
Aj.



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:03:31 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
>
> > As for version control...shamed to admit I just haven't used it.
Finally
> > getting that in sync and am moving towards Bazaar.  It seems to have all
> the
> > benefits of git without the weird structure enforced on you based on
> > assuming you are developing an operating system.
>
> Interesting choice - did you look at Mercurial?
>
>
Yes, Mercurial was high on my list.  Bazaar just feels right.  I'm still
flipflopping though, there are more people using Mercurial than Bazaar and
Pragmatic Pub has a book in Mercurial...so I might end up going with it
instead.

I just have to stop stressing and decide.
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 17 09:43:11 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:43:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] SVN
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Should we have a presentation on versioning?  I don't think that would be off-topic since one of my Joomla books has their first chapter about SVN and JoomlaCode.org -- setting up a JoomlaCode.org project.  
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Wed Feb 17 13:51:16 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:51:16 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Version control and binary files
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
> Mitch managed to put a bee in my bonnet about version control of my project
> files and I've spent the last 10 hours reviewing different options and have
> done some tests with Mercurial and TortoiseHg.
> What I've run into is an issue with versioning binary files.
>

http://joshcarter.com/productivity/svn_hg_git_for_home_directory

Seems like he treats them as any other file, doesn't do any workaround and
Git, Mercural, and Bazaar all do pretty well.
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From masimko at verizon.net  Wed Feb 17 14:08:02 2010
From: masimko at verizon.net (Mark Simko)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:08:02 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 18
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On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 12:00 -0500, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
> I just had a friend give me a Gateway laptop to fix ..
> Dead as a link to CB Simulator on Compuserve
> No power no light no nothing power supply is OK
> 

I've seen on dell laptops, battery connected to motherboard, under the
keyboard. That goes bad and laptop won't start. sometimes remove them
and laptop will work again, but not keep state information. Othertimes
need to replace that battery (not really a cmos battery)

> What to do now  ? swap hard drive  to know good machine ..
> Drat dreaded 000000000007x error. cause the drivers etc are not even
> close
> 

Get a usb to ide adapter to copy off the data. they are only about $15
or so.

> 
> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html  get a knoppix
> live boot CD
> 
> You could boot from flash also ..
> 
> attach flash drive
> 
> Boot live CD select 12
> Nice gui interface ( a tad clunky at times ) turn off screensaver.
> start
> system tools
> PCMan File Manager  will give you a file manager which you can move
> the files to the flash drive.
> Or you can map to a network share etc..
> 

All workable, but just as easy to remove the drive from the laptop,
attach a ide / usb adapter, and copy off the data that way.

> 
> Maybe it a good time to make a txt file with the arcane paths to your
> stuff and put it in the C drive makes it easier to find when under
> fire  LOL
> 
> This is for windows I am sure a Mac is very close to the same except
> for different file paths.
> 
> Oh if the drive is dead as in physically this will not work , but its
> worth a try..
> 
> oz
> 
> 

Best regards,
Mark



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From lists at zaunere.com  Wed Feb 17 15:01:07 2010
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:01:07 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Version control and binary files
In-Reply-To: <006f01caafdb$eac8b080$c05a1180$@com>
References: <mailman.3.1266339601.13523.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<006f01caafdb$eac8b080$c05a1180$@com>
Message-ID: <0c1501cab00b$f3185f30$d9491d90$@com>

> Mitch managed to put a bee in my bonnet about version control of my
project
> files and I've spent the last 10 hours reviewing different options and
have
> done some tests with Mercurial and TortoiseHg.
> What I've run into is an issue with versioning binary files.
> I would like to know how people are handling this. Hg, Subversion and CVS
> seem to provide some work arounds but they all look a little ugly and if
> there is a better way I would love to hear about it.

I use subversion with binary files (Word, .zip, images, etc) all the time
and it just works... no workarounds required.  Can't the same for CVS
though...

H




From scott at wolpow.com  Sat Feb  6 13:35:44 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:35:44 -0500
Subject: [joomla] What CMS is this?
Message-ID: <4B6DB680.8060405@wolpow.com>

I have seen this backend before, but can not remember what CMS does 
anyone one?
-- 
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*718.275.7765*
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From bmccormick at lincolncenter.org  Thu Feb 18 13:06:18 2010
From: bmccormick at lincolncenter.org (Bernie McCormick)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:06:18 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 20
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Looks like a crop of wordpress to me.

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:35:44 -0500
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I have seen this backend before, but can not remember what CMS does
anyone one?
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Thu Feb 18 17:28:33 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:28:33 -0500
Subject: [joomla] versioning Joomla
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1266512401.32181.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
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Thanks for the feedback on binary files guys. As I did more research I found
that SVN, Hg and Baz don't have problems versioning binaries, the problem is
the diff and merge of those file types. 
Today I started using TortoiseSVN and SVN has a nice system that alters the
file names of the binary files that conflict during a merge allowing the
user to eyeball them and decide which to commit.
Another question as far as best practices.
How much of the Joomla directory should I version? I wouldn't mind
versioning the entire directory but in practice I know that out of those
5-6000 files there will only be a handful that actually would be modified
and creating a working copy approximately doubles the size of the directory.
I'm only beginning to think through all this and it would be great to hear
what other people are doing.
Thanks!
Herb

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From oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com  Thu Feb 18 17:28:48 2010
From: oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com (ozzie sutcliffe)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:28:48 -0500
Subject: [joomla] room rentals
Message-ID: <13834c051002181428g7eeb17b9q6f60f5721398c781@mail.gmail.com>

http://simplestudiosnyc.com/  I use these folks and their rates a very
reasonable,so if you in a jam for a room it may work for you.
Free wireless chairs and table..


Oz


From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 18 19:01:15 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:01:15 -0500
Subject: [joomla] versioning Joomla
In-Reply-To: <001201cab0e9$b501c0e0$1f0542a0$@com>
References: <mailman.3.1266512401.32181.joomla@lists.nyphp.org> 
	<001201cab0e9$b501c0e0$1f0542a0$@com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002181601x16521a00u4095d173c676e932@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>wrote:

> How much of the Joomla directory should I version? I wouldn't mind
> versioning the entire directory but in practice I know that out of those
> 5-6000 files there will only be a handful that actually would be modified
> and creating a working copy approximately doubles the size of the
> directory.
>

One of the things I like about Bazaar and plan on experimenting with is the
multi parent relationship.

IE, I can take the stock Joomla setup files out of SVN and save them in one
branch/tag/whatever.

Then for a specific install, saying I want to keep it simple, I can setup a
second branch/whatever and /exclude/ all the joomla core files from that
repository.

Finally, I can take the website itself and make a THIRD repository of it's
files and tell it that it is a child of BOTH of the other repositories.

So, files that get changed on my server and checked in that overwrite the
parents will be checked in to the website repository and stored there.

Furthermore, I can periodically refresh my Joomla core repository from the
core code to pick up any changes, and then use Bazaar to merge them back
down to the website[or, for that matter, to 6 websites if I have 6 children
of that parent].

So joomla core function is stored seperately from everything else.


Now, if I want to get REALLY complicated, I could create a repository for
every component, module, and plugin that gets installed and make the website
a child of all of them.  So if I use one component on 3 sites, when I
upgrade that components repository I can then push them down to all the
websites using it.

Bazaar is also able to import from other repositories systems, so I can just
point the parent repositories to the SVN/GIT/CVS repository for the
component/core code and have it periodically refresh the code.


In the end, I think Mercurial, Bazaar, and Git make fine systems and any one
of them is great.  Bazaar is just more.....erm... fit for the way I think so
I'm going with it[despite the lack of books regarding it]
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Fri Feb 19 13:01:36 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:01:36 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1266598801.21980.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1266598801.21980.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <003e01cab18d$947151c0$bd53f540$@com>

Thanks for your feedback Gary.
I'm going to play around with Bazaar today. I was looking it over again last
night and I've been having problems with SVN in checking out files with file
corrupted messages. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, kept my anti-virus
inactive during the process, run as administrator, etc. and still getting
odd behavior. I'm running Win7 x64 Pro, so I don't know if SVN may have an
incompatibility with my install or what. If I get some time I will set up a
VM with another OS and try it again. I'm thinking before I do that I will
try setting a repo on a server as I've also been running the repo on a
separate drive via file:///.
I've read in a few locations on the web about folks that are running a VCS
on their production web server, where the working copy files are the files
being served and the repo resides in a separate directory on the server.
Pushing/checking in files to the repo automatically initiates a pull/update
to the working copy via a hook.
Are any of you doing something like this?
Cheers!
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:01:15 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] versioning Joomla
Message-ID:
	<4bffc351002181601x16521a00u4095d173c676e932 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>wrote:

> How much of the Joomla directory should I version? I wouldn't mind
> versioning the entire directory but in practice I know that out of those
> 5-6000 files there will only be a handful that actually would be modified
> and creating a working copy approximately doubles the size of the
> directory.
>

One of the things I like about Bazaar and plan on experimenting with is the
multi parent relationship.

IE, I can take the stock Joomla setup files out of SVN and save them in one
branch/tag/whatever.

Then for a specific install, saying I want to keep it simple, I can setup a
second branch/whatever and /exclude/ all the joomla core files from that
repository.

Finally, I can take the website itself and make a THIRD repository of it's
files and tell it that it is a child of BOTH of the other repositories.

So, files that get changed on my server and checked in that overwrite the
parents will be checked in to the website repository and stored there.

Furthermore, I can periodically refresh my Joomla core repository from the
core code to pick up any changes, and then use Bazaar to merge them back
down to the website[or, for that matter, to 6 websites if I have 6 children
of that parent].

So joomla core function is stored seperately from everything else.


Now, if I want to get REALLY complicated, I could create a repository for
every component, module, and plugin that gets installed and make the website
a child of all of them.  So if I use one component on 3 sites, when I
upgrade that components repository I can then push them down to all the
websites using it.

Bazaar is also able to import from other repositories systems, so I can just
point the parent repositories to the SVN/GIT/CVS repository for the
component/core code and have it periodically refresh the code.


In the end, I think Mercurial, Bazaar, and Git make fine systems and any one
of them is great.  Bazaar is just more.....erm... fit for the way I think so
I'm going with it[despite the lack of books regarding it]
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From htucker at covenanttek.com  Fri Feb 19 16:18:54 2010
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:18:54 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Version Control Primer
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1266598801.21980.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1266598801.21980.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <008c01cab1a9$24e70630$6eb51290$@com>

Hi All,
I came across a decent primer on version control for anyone that looking to
get an intro to the concepts and terminology that will help as you make a
decision about which system to go with.

http://www.ericsink.com/scm/source_control.html

Cheers!
Herb


Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com





From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 19 16:28:47 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:28:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Version Control Primer
In-Reply-To: <008c01cab1a9$24e70630$6eb51290$@com>
References: <mailman.1.1266598801.21980.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<008c01cab1a9$24e70630$6eb51290$@com>
Message-ID: <962642.43542.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Also, we are having a presentation on April 8 by Mitch Pirtle on SVN and GIT, including best practices for developing websites using SCM (Source Code Management) tools





________________________________
From: Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 4:18:54 PM
Subject: [joomla] Version Control Primer

Hi All,
I came across a decent primer on version control for anyone that looking to
get an intro to the concepts and terminology that will help as you make a
decision about which system to go with.

http://www.ericsink.com/scm/source_control.html

Cheers!
Herb


Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com



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From garyamort at gmail.com  Fri Feb 19 16:55:53 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:55:53 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Version Control Primer
In-Reply-To: <008c01cab1a9$24e70630$6eb51290$@com>
References: <mailman.1.1266598801.21980.joomla@lists.nyphp.org> 
	<008c01cab1a9$24e70630$6eb51290$@com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002191355r23a6ddf6mb251f7190d9d75fc@mail.gmail.com>

I took a brief skim through it, and it really is addressing the traditional
CVS and Subversion models.

And there is nothing wrong with those...for what they were and for what they
are.  You KNOW you will always have CVS and Subversion on any server you go
to, so you can create a repository of your code there.

But I truly feel that the distributed model just works better.  Whether you
decide to use Git, Mercurial, or Bazaar - those systems have many additional
features that just make things work.

The biggest problem I'm finding is that everything is an 80% solution, so
you have to decide WHERE you wish to put your empasis on learning..

Your repository can be configured to do all sorts of things when you
checkin, automatically update a bug tracker, run unit tests, run system
tests, run documentation processes and syntax checkers,trigger an automatic
deployment if everything works, etc.

By the same token, most bug tracking systems can ALSO be configured to
monitor the source code repository and perform these functions.

And then you may not like working from the command line, so you can use a
web server front end to the repository that may also have wiki and project
tracking functions[for example, http://www.indefero.net/ is a web front end
for Git, Subversion and Mercurial].

It's gotten to a ridiculous point at times[for example, GitHub as a service
provides a project tracker, wiki, forums, lists, and version control...and
often people use one, maybe 2 of those functions but they sign up for the
whole service.  So you go to a github repository for code, and then click on
project tracker and it's empty because that is hosted somewhere else]....

It can get further confusing...for example, do I go with Redmine as my main
item and learn Ruby....or Mercurial and learn Python, or use something like
Indefero because it is in PHP and I can hack it more quickly.

What you go with will have some repercussions, for example Indefero looks
really cool, but then it means I can't use Bazaar it's either Git or
Mercurial.....

At the end of the day... I keep coming back to the most important thing is
to use version control...so I am starting with the system which sings to me
and moving on from there.
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 08:20:52 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:20:52 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ouch
Message-ID: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/19/is-john-the-client-dense-or-are-you-failing-him/#more-30253

Mirrors can be dangerous to look in.
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From php at lynxtdc.com  Sun Feb 21 09:19:58 2010
From: php at lynxtdc.com (Paul McGrane)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:19:58 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ouch
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84450b6d1002210619r6f482378v1c687f03b4dfdd1b@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Gary:

Great article, thanks for sharing...and, yes...it can be dangerous to look
in the mirror...but if you're willing to fix what you see, it can also be
rewarding.  I definitely picked up a couple things I need to improve from
the article.

Paul

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/19/is-john-the-client-dense-or-are-you-failing-him/#more-30253
>
> Mirrors can be dangerous to look in.
>
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 10:08:44 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:08:44 -0500
Subject: [joomla] OT: Silent Auction today
Message-ID: <4bffc351002210708t796e213doe026f6f2d1f95488@mail.gmail.com>

Off Topic, but I figured I'd post this in case anyone is interested in some
of the items on the list:

As I believe I posted about previously, their doing a fundraiser to expand
the cancer center at the local hospital my oldest brother passed away at
last year.
http://www.huntingforacure.info/ is the basic website I setup for them
because I just couldn't bear looking at it much[and it looks MUCH better
know thanks to Laura Gordon going in and applying a much better template and
layout!]

Today is the fundraising event[though we are almost at the goal already!]

They have a number of items they will be running a silent auction on:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=427194725514&topic=1179<http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=427194725514&topic=11790>
0 <http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=427194725514&topic=11790>


Which includes some items that might appeal to a broader interest:
Sports memorabilia (baseball signed by Mickey Mantle and Willy Meyes
*Guitar signed by Bono
[I am assuming those were pulled out of some personal collections by family]

**Spend a day with a chef! (this includes a $500 food and wine allowance) -
Chef Elizabeth E. Briggs a 23 year Chef / Professor of the Culinary
Institute of America and Chef Owner of Cooking For Transformation LLC. Will
spend the day with you and your 6 guests in your own home kitchen.
 <http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=427194725514&topic=11790>[and a lot
of favors and a lifetime of good karma cashed in]

So if there is something on the list that you would like and your not going,
feel free to email sales at huntingforacure.info and let Danielle know!
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 10:13:23 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:13:23 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ouch
In-Reply-To: <84450b6d1002210619r6f482378v1c687f03b4dfdd1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com> 
	<84450b6d1002210619r6f482378v1c687f03b4dfdd1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002210713h2301159vb0ec4b3fa4ce547e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Paul McGrane <php at lynxtdc.com> wrote:

> Hey Gary:
>
> Great article, thanks for sharing...and, yes...it can be dangerous to look
> in the mirror...but if you're willing to fix what you see, it can also be
> rewarding.  I definitely picked up a couple things I need to improve from
> the article.


The first step to fixing a problem is acknowledging you have one.... me?
 No, not me.  I have no problems.... no sirree... :-)


But seriously, yeah I was reading through that article and going "that's
me...me...me......ouch!"

So it is good to reflect on...and easier when your reading about someone
else.
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From janice at onlinesuccessmap.com  Sun Feb 21 11:33:14 2010
From: janice at onlinesuccessmap.com (Janice Gentles-Jones)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:33:14 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ouch
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <024101cab313$90bebbd0$b23c3370$@com>

Great article. Thanks for sharing.

 

Sincerely,

 

janice_sig.png

Janice Gentles-Jones 
JGJ Consulting
Joomla Website Design, Support & Training
(P) 516.333.6578  (F) 516.333.0023
 <http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com/> http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com
 <http://www.techsuccessmap.com/> http://www.techsuccessmap.com 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair

 

From: Gary Mort [mailto:garyamort at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:21 AM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: [joomla] Ouch

 

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/19/is-john-the-client-dense-or-are-y
ou-failing-him/#more-30253

 

Mirrors can be dangerous to look in.

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From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Feb 21 11:59:16 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:59:16 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ouch
In-Reply-To: <024101cab313$90bebbd0$b23c3370$@com>
References: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
	<024101cab313$90bebbd0$b23c3370$@com>
Message-ID: <4B816664.2020306@wolpow.com>

I thought that is why we carry stun guns, so we can 'teach' the clients. 
LOL Just kidding.

SW

On 2/21/2010 11:33 AM, Janice Gentles-Jones wrote:
>
> Great article. Thanks for sharing.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> *janice_sig.png*
>
> *Janice Gentles-Jones
> JGJ Consulting*
> /Joomla Website Design, Support & Training/
> *(P)* 516.333.6578 *(F)* 516.333.0023
> http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com <http://www.onlinesuccessmap.com/>
> http://www.techsuccessmap.com <http://www.techsuccessmap.com/>
> *"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, 
> wait until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair*
>
> *From:* Gary Mort [mailto:garyamort at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:21 AM
> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla
> *Subject:* [joomla] Ouch
>
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/19/is-john-the-client-dense-or-are-you-failing-him/#more-30253
>
> Mirrors can be dangerous to look in.
>
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 13:53:19 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:53:19 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Ouch
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002210520s796b55f3s627c997a77c8b8df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002211053r3ad13245nc298b69f4dda3534@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/02/19/is-john-the-client-dense-or-are-you-failing-him/#more-30253
>
> Mirrors can be dangerous to look in.

That's a brilliant write up that exposes the vast chasm of
understanding between the designer/developer and the client. Good
reading for everyone from both sides of the fence.

-- Mitch


From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 19:58:38 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:58:38 -0500
Subject: [joomla] OT: Silent Auction today
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002210708t796e213doe026f6f2d1f95488@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002210708t796e213doe026f6f2d1f95488@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002211658t579d88f2ga6c529406390daf6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:

> Off Topic, but I figured I'd post this in case anyone is interested in some
> of the items on the list:
>
>
Well, people will be happy to know I'll shut up about this now.

Between a sizable last minute anonymous donation and the high value items in
the auction, they made the goal of 10,000 since starting this fundraiser
officially back in January.  10,000 in 2 months that I credit mainly to a
lifetime of good deeds and a lot of energy on Danielle's part.

So I am a mostly happy camper tonight.
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 22 13:45:59 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:45:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
Message-ID: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'd like some recommendations for an extension for a website that needs its users to apply for registration with information about who they are and what their business is.  Once their registration is approved, they can login and view info that is not available to the general public

Thanks,
Donna


 
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb 22 14:00:02 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:00:02 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
In-Reply-To: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002221100k4bc8e93dm1421389d121173d1@mail.gmail.com>

Community Builder.  :-)

Though personally Community Builder seems a little long in the tooth to me
and needs a complete rewrite.

Things I would change in Community Builder:
1) Drop support for Mambo and Joomla 1.0 and as such, get rid of a lot of
version checking code
2) Move to using Joomla 1.5 input sanitizers instead of the CB ones.  Where
CB has a better sanitizer, promote it as a patch to the core files instead
of having a seperate setup
3) Drop a lot of the CB events....or if maintaining them for backwords
compatibility, at least adopt a set of plugins to have CB events trigger
Joomla events and vice versa[for example, when the CB before and after
registration events get triggered, they should also trigger the Joomla ones.
 And if the Joomla one gets triggered, it should trigger the CB one.  With
recursion checking of course. :-)
4) A decent CB User api to load the CB user info to the Joomla user profile
so it can be accessed by other programs.  Also a decent api for registration
of new users.
5) Move rules to configurable options instead of buried in php files[the
regex for verifying user names is buried in a mess of if/then version
checking and the rules vary depending on what CMS your using].

In short, CB either needs a complete overhaul...or it needs something else.


Fabrikaar also has some custom user profile form logic/configuration.


Once a user is actually logged in, then it's a simple matter of setting
anything which is for registered users only as for registered users only.
 More fine grained control can be found through things like the CB plugins
which set access to Remository and Docman based on fields in CB.


Hmm... CB is still the best choice out there I can see......  But then I
won't pony up to purchase the other products like JomSocial.


K2 DOES have an interesting take on user registration.  It also maintains
it's own set of tables for user registration and uses the Joomla plugin
system to extend user registration with their own fields, and update that
data on submit.  Also with K2 you have the ability to set "Categories" of
postings which can have files, images, image gallery, extra fields, etc.
 And you can define access to those categories by K2 user group[so "Members"
can read all posts, but can only post to the car for sale listings.  Wheras
realtors can post to the house for sale listing category as well].


Lots of ways to skin this cat.....  and I suffer from PHP
developer-ites[also called Mitch's disease] and don't like any of them. :-)




On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <
donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'd like some recommendations for an extension for a website that needs its
> users to apply for registration with information about who they are and what
> their business is.  Once their registration is approved, they can login and
> view info that is not available to the general public
>
> Thanks,
> Donna
>
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From janice at onlinesuccessmap.com  Mon Feb 22 14:08:39 2010
From: janice at onlinesuccessmap.com (Janice Gentles-Jones)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:08:39 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
In-Reply-To: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <038c01cab3f2$7107e200$5317a600$@com>

You can try Mighty Registration at
http://www.mightyextensions.com/joomla-components/user-extend-registration

 

It extends the Joomla registration.  Some of the functionality includes:

.         Unlimited custom fields

.         Captcha 

.         Administrator approves registration option

.         Export and reporting capabilities

 

Sincerely,

 

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Janice Gentles-Jones 
JGJ Consulting
Joomla Website Design, Support & Training
(P) 516.333.6578  (F) 516.333.0023
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until you hire an amateur." - Red Adair

 

From: Donna Marie Vincent [mailto:donnamarievincent at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:46 PM
To: Joomla Users Group List
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?

 

I'd like some recommendations for an extension for a website that needs its
users to apply for registration with information about who they are and what
their business is.  Once their registration is approved, they can login and
view info that is not available to the general public

Thanks,
Donna

 

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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 22 14:15:35 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:15:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002221100k4bc8e93dm1421389d121173d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4bffc351002221100k4bc8e93dm1421389d121173d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <250716.53435.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If K2 has an extended registration system, then I'll use that because I am going to be using K2 on the site anyway.  Haven't used K2 before so I didn't know.

CB seems like overkill for this purpose.






________________________________
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 2:00:02 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Extension for website access?

Community Builder.  :-)

Though personally Community Builder seems a little long in the tooth to me and needs a complete rewrite.

Things I would change in Community Builder:
1) Drop support for Mambo and Joomla 1.0 and as such, get rid of a lot of version checking code
2) Move to using Joomla 1.5 input sanitizers instead of the CB ones.  Where CB has a better sanitizer, promote it as a patch to the core files instead of having a seperate setup
3) Drop a lot of the CB events....or if maintaining them for backwords compatibility, at least adopt a set of plugins to have CB events trigger Joomla events and vice versa[for example, when the CB before and after registration events get triggered, they should also trigger the Joomla ones.  And if the Joomla one gets triggered, it should trigger the CB one.  With recursion checking of course. :-)
4) A decent CB User api to load the CB user info to the Joomla user profile so it can be accessed by other programs.  Also a decent api for registration of new users.
5) Move rules to configurable options instead of buried in php files[the regex for verifying user names is buried in a mess of if/then version checking and the rules vary depending on what CMS your using].

In short, CB either needs a complete overhaul...or it needs something else.


Fabrikaar also has some custom user profile form logic/configuration.


Once a user is actually logged in, then it's a simple matter of setting anything which is for registered users only as for registered users only.  More fine grained control can be found through things like the CB plugins which set access to Remository and Docman based on fields in CB.


Hmm... CB is still the best choice out there I can see......  But then I won't pony up to purchase the other products like JomSocial.


K2 DOES have an interesting take on user registration.  It also maintains it's own set of tables for user registration and uses the Joomla plugin system to extend user registration with their own fields, and update that data on submit.  Also with K2 you have the ability to set "Categories" of postings which can have files, images, image gallery, extra fields, etc.  And you can define access to those categories by K2 user group[so "Members" can read all posts, but can only post to the car for sale listings.  Wheras realtors can post to the house for sale listing category as well].


Lots of ways to skin this cat.....  and I suffer from PHP developer-ites[also called Mitch's disease] and don't like any of them. :-)





On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>I'd like some recommendations for an extension for a website that needs its users to apply for registration with information about who they are and what their business is.  Once their registration is approved, they can login and view info that is not available to the general public
>
>Thanks,
>Donna
>
>
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From: masimko at verizon.net (masimko at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:25:38 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [joomla] Virtuemart add to cart button
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Tue Feb 23 02:15:18 2010
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:15:18 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Membership extension for Joomla,
	or another platform suggestion?
Message-ID: <0605FFD2-62F4-4252-83F1-9C3503542871@gmail.com>

I have a project I'm prosing for a new non-profit and I think Joomla  
may be well suited for it. I'd greatly appreciate any opinions on this  
such as "David, here are five extensions that do most everything you  
asked." Or constructive comments like, "Wouldn't your time be better  
spent not trying to cram this thing down Joomla's throat and instead  
use X?".

[Short pre-ample:]
A non-profit group is forming and building a membership. They have a  
list of people they would like to become members, but they don't have  
contact information for them. So the concept was to set-up a web site  
which would both manage the membership database and make it easy for  
new prospects to join and associates of theirs update their contact  
information and be able to send them an invitation to check out the  
web site, update their own contact information and join the membership.
[/Short pre-ample:]

The primary requirement for getting things started is to have a  
"Looking for..." section. This would list the prospective members by  
name and what information is missing, for example:

	Mickey Mouse 	- Need Phone Number and E-mail address
	Donald Duck		- Need Postal mailing address.

	The visitor needs to be able to select a name displayed, supply the  
information and confirm their update via e-mail confirmation.  Of  
course, there is a concern about security here and to prevent  
malcontents for entering rubbish. I've not thought about how to solve  
that yet, because we would like to be able to do this without  
requiring visitors to register unless it's a simple registration. Or  
maybe an audit feature, where the new updates don't take effect until  
they are reviewed by the Admin. I'm certainly open to suggestions on  
how to handle this best.

The membership is expected to be in the thousands and they will want  
to be able to send e-mail newsletters and alerts to everyone. What are  
people doing for this, so it gets past the mailers so it isn't flagged  
a SPAM? Are you using something like Exact Target  (http://email.exacttarget.com/ 
) or are you able to have the e-mail sent out N number of messages  
every X seconds according to your service providers restrictions?

Although not discussed yet, I imagine as things progress they are  
going to want to be able to do accounting functions for the membership  
such as tracking payments and sending out reminders. Of course, that  
can be another module down the road which would key this existing  
database.

So tell me straight is this good for Joomla? Anything out there so the  
wheel doesn't need to be re-invented? Or is this a job for a good PHP  
frame work?

Thanks in advance to any kind souls that offer helpful suggestions!


David Roth



From garyamort at gmail.com  Tue Feb 23 06:42:11 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:42:11 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Membership extension for Joomla,
	or another platform 	suggestion?
In-Reply-To: <0605FFD2-62F4-4252-83F1-9C3503542871@gmail.com>
References: <0605FFD2-62F4-4252-83F1-9C3503542871@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002230342w204371c2v63aae74ac5d86b23@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:15 AM, David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a project I'm prosing for a new non-profit and I think Joomla may be
> well suited for it. I'd greatly appreciate any opinions on this such as
> "David, here are five extensions that do most everything you asked." Or
> constructive comments like, "Wouldn't your time be better spent not trying
> to cram this thing down Joomla's throat and instead use X?".
>
> Your goals sound more like a CRM[customer relation management] than a CMS.
 The most popular CRM in the non profit sphere is CIVICRM,
http://civicrm.org/

That said, *I* would use Joomla because it is 10 times faster for me to take
some existing components and add/tweak them.

As for email campaigns, again I would use PHPlist because I know how to go
through and setup all the whitelisting, feedback loops, domain key signing,
SPF/Sender ID domain records, etc to minimize email being marked as spam.
 And PHPlist has throttling built into it.

But I recommend MailChimp since they have an easy to use api and a PHP
library so you can integrate it with Joomla sign up processing fairly
easily.
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 23 07:20:22 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:20:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Membership extension for Joomla,
	or another platform suggestion?
In-Reply-To: <0605FFD2-62F4-4252-83F1-9C3503542871@gmail.com>
References: <0605FFD2-62F4-4252-83F1-9C3503542871@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <616445.55232.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mosets Tree is a directory component that has a feature called "Claim this listing", where the owner of the business (or whatever) can click a button saying this is his/her listing and he/she wants to update the info.

Even if you write your own component tailored to your needs, Joomla is a great framework to build on.  There are functions already in place for the admin part of the component for "New", "Save", "Delete", etc., as well as the sortable grid listing.

 


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________________________________
From: David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 2:15:18 AM
Subject: [joomla] Membership extension for Joomla, or another platform suggestion?

I have a project I'm prosing for a new non-profit and I think Joomla may be well suited for it. I'd greatly appreciate any opinions on this such as "David, here are five extensions that do most everything you asked." Or constructive comments like, "Wouldn't your time be better spent not trying to cram this thing down Joomla's throat and instead use X?".

[Short pre-ample:]
A non-profit group is forming and building a membership. They have a list of people they would like to become members, but they don't have contact information for them. So the concept was to set-up a web site which would both manage the membership database and make it easy for new prospects to join and associates of theirs update their contact information and be able to send them an invitation to check out the web site, update their own contact information and join the membership.
[/Short pre-ample:]

The primary requirement for getting things started is to have a "Looking for..." section. This would list the prospective members by name and what information is missing, for example:

    Mickey Mouse     - Need Phone Number and E-mail address
    Donald Duck        - Need Postal mailing address.

    The visitor needs to be able to select a name displayed, supply the information and confirm their update via e-mail confirmation.  Of course, there is a concern about security here and to prevent malcontents for entering rubbish. I've not thought about how to solve that yet, because we would like to be able to do this without requiring visitors to register unless it's a simple registration. Or maybe an audit feature, where the new updates don't take effect until they are reviewed by the Admin. I'm certainly open to suggestions on how to handle this best.

The membership is expected to be in the thousands and they will want to be able to send e-mail newsletters and alerts to everyone. What are people doing for this, so it gets past the mailers so it isn't flagged a SPAM? Are you using something like Exact Target  (http://email.exacttarget.com/) or are you able to have the e-mail sent out N number of messages every X seconds according to your service providers restrictions?

Although not discussed yet, I imagine as things progress they are going to want to be able to do accounting functions for the membership such as tracking payments and sending out reminders. Of course, that can be another module down the road which would key this existing database.

So tell me straight is this good for Joomla? Anything out there so the wheel doesn't need to be re-invented? Or is this a job for a good PHP frame work?

Thanks in advance to any kind souls that offer helpful suggestions!


David Roth

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From paul at wiltondigital.com  Tue Feb 23 08:17:31 2010
From: paul at wiltondigital.com (Paul Lourd)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:17:31 -0500
Subject: [joomla] New guy - Looking for user upload strategy
Message-ID: <002701cab48a$8e292c70$aa7b8550$@com>

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask! Just found the NYC group, and
hope to attend soon. 

I build/maintain a couple of church websites, and have been using PHP/MYSQL
for some of the automation. Found Joomla, and looking to see if that will
work for me, as I need to add the ability for church staff to add content,
without my intervention. I took a Joomla course on Lynda.com which got me up
to speed pretty quickly in general.

Things I can't seem to clearly find searching through the doc and
extensions/modules:

1) Would like to be able to lock down the secretary to only be able to
upload to a specific category (weekly newsletters in PDF format). Then add a
module that only displays articles in that category. Seems like
upload/managing attachments is not as straight forward as it should be? Are
there some recommended ways of letting end users manages file attachments?
2) Add a calendar, which display the next 'x" upcoming events on the right
side, and links to a full calendar of scheduled events. Seems like there are
a ton of add on calendars, which might you recommend? Or are most people
using Google now, and just linking that in?
3) Are there plans to allow more granular security? Like user groups that
can do/see certain things?
4) Just how risky are some of these add-ons? It looks like there is quite
the market for these, and one hopes they are stable!

Thanks much.

Paul.



From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 23 08:34:16 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:34:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] New guy - Looking for user upload strategy
In-Reply-To: <002701cab48a$8e292c70$aa7b8550$@com>
References: <002701cab48a$8e292c70$aa7b8550$@com>
Message-ID: <191365.94648.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

1) Use Docman for pdf uploads and display.  You can restrict uploads by individual or by group.

2) Try JEvents for the calendar.  The calendar is a component and the module will display upcoming events which can be configured as you wish.

3) Granular access levels are coming in Joomla 1.6, project to be released this year.  In the meantime there are extension for this.

4) This depends on the developer.  Docman and JEvents have been around for quite a while.

If you haven't found it already, the Joomla extensions directory is located at http://extensions.joomla.org


 
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________________________________
From: Paul Lourd <paul at wiltondigital.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 8:17:31 AM
Subject: [joomla] New guy - Looking for user upload strategy

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask! Just found the NYC group, and
hope to attend soon. 

I build/maintain a couple of church websites, and have been using PHP/MYSQL
for some of the automation. Found Joomla, and looking to see if that will
work for me, as I need to add the ability for church staff to add content,
without my intervention. I took a Joomla course on Lynda.com which got me up
to speed pretty quickly in general.

Things I can't seem to clearly find searching through the doc and
extensions/modules:

1) Would like to be able to lock down the secretary to only be able to
upload to a specific category (weekly newsletters in PDF format). Then add a
module that only displays articles in that category. Seems like
upload/managing attachments is not as straight forward as it should be? Are
there some recommended ways of letting end users manages file attachments?
2) Add a calendar, which display the next 'x" upcoming events on the right
side, and links to a full calendar of scheduled events. Seems like there are
a ton of add on calendars, which might you recommend? Or are most people
using Google now, and just linking that in?
3) Are there plans to allow more granular security? Like user groups that
can do/see certain things?
4) Just how risky are some of these add-ons? It looks like there is quite
the market for these, and one hopes they are stable!

Thanks much.

Paul.

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From macphotographs at netscape.net  Tue Feb 23 08:34:38 2010
From: macphotographs at netscape.net (Smitty)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:34:38 -0500
Subject: [joomla] SEO Issue with VirtueMart
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7793.1266927624.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.7793.1266927624.15558.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <4B83D96E.7070109@netscape.net>

Greetings!

I've noticed a compatibility issue between Joomla's SEO settings and 
VirtueMart.
What's the best solution for obtaining search optimized pages when 
installing VirtueMart?

*SEO Settings** *
* * * * * ** Search Engine Friendly URLs*


I'm using Joomla v1.5.15 and VirtueMart v1.1.2
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From masimko at verizon.net  Tue Feb 23 09:33:20 2010
From: masimko at verizon.net (masimko at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:33:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [joomla] SEO Issue with VirtueMart
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Tue Feb 23 11:58:33 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:58:33 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
In-Reply-To: <250716.53435.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I'm told UserMeta is a shining example of how it should be done:

http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/usermeta/

-- Mitch


From compustretch at gmail.com  Tue Feb 23 22:34:01 2010
From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:34:01 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm told UserMeta is a shining example of how it should be done:
>
> http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/usermeta/
>



So let's say you use usermeta to assign users to a group (I suppose you
could just wait for 1.6, but let's assume you want to do this before the end
of the Mayan calendar?) You can also use usermeta to give users a couple new
fields, say a profile picture for example which they don't have OOB.

What's the best way to generate a page that lists all the users in a given
group as well as selected specific fields for these users?


?orest mars
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From li_gordon at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 24 08:03:56 2010
From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:03:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] presentation ideas
Message-ID: <670973.48249.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just a thought to the entire joomla list group...

It would be great to schedule at a future meeting another presentation of a joomla system from an end user/client.  If anyone has a client that would be interested in showing off their system, perhaps we could schedule it for a future meeting.

I think from a developer perspective it is great to see what a client thinks about their system, how it was built, and the nooks and crannies about it...

fyi: registration is now up for the march meeting (3/11), so sign up!
http://www.joomlanyc.org


thanks,
Laura

 

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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Wed Feb 24 10:15:39 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:15:39 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Extension for website access?
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References: <918097.84932.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:34 PM, forest mars <compustretch at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm told UserMeta is a shining example of how it should be done:
>>
>> http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/usermeta/
>
>
>
> So let's say you use usermeta to assign users to a group (I suppose you
> could just wait for 1.6, but let's assume you want to do this before the end
> of the Mayan calendar?) You can also use usermeta to give users a couple new
> fields, say a profile picture for example which they don't have OOB.
>
> What's the best way to generate a page that lists all the users in a given
> group as well as selected specific fields for these users?

I'd just make a simple front-end component for that. Although that
sounds like the beginnings of a rich profile and user group extension
suite...

-- Mitch


From fred at avdrive.com  Thu Feb 25 16:41:06 2010
From: fred at avdrive.com (Fred Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:41:06 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 29
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1267030801.9554.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1267030801.9554.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <d522ba631002251341l4d5a1d3fhb1aa0af8ebbb4a16@mail.gmail.com>

Re:Gary Mort on Baazar distributed version control

Gary thanks for the suggestion of this system on the list. I have been
trying out the Baazar version control system and think it is very cool. It
is amazing how it is virtually ubiquitous on your local machine and then you
can sftp, webdav, ssh to remote installations. I am really thinking of
adopting this as our main version control system.

Best,
Fred Sullivan
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 25 20:18:09 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:18:09 -0500
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 38, Issue 29
In-Reply-To: <d522ba631002251341l4d5a1d3fhb1aa0af8ebbb4a16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1267030801.9554.joomla@lists.nyphp.org> 
	<d522ba631002251341l4d5a1d3fhb1aa0af8ebbb4a16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002251718u3ed922f5ydcdda804240024fb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Fred, any reviews on how your doing your setup and such, what apps you
use to help manage things[or which command line commands you use most], etc
would be great.

I'd love to see more info from people using Bazaar....of all the ones out
there it is the least documented, which is a bummer since it is the one that
sings to me most.

Post em here, or the nyphp talk list, or even just up online and ping me!

[on facebook you can find me at....oddly enough, garyamort] :-)

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Fred Sullivan <fred at avdrive.com> wrote:

> Re:Gary Mort on Baazar distributed version control
>
> Gary thanks for the suggestion of this system on the list. I have been
> trying out the Baazar version control system and think it is very cool. It
> is amazing how it is virtually ubiquitous on your local machine and then you
> can sftp, webdav, ssh to remote installations. I am really thinking of
> adopting this as our main version control system.
>
> Best,
> Fred Sullivan
>
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Thu Feb 25 23:30:55 2010
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:30:55 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Membership extension for Joomla,
	or another platform suggestion?
In-Reply-To: <616445.55232.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <0605FFD2-62F4-4252-83F1-9C3503542871@gmail.com>
	<616445.55232.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2A7D2FEE-6A77-4731-BC10-31235EABD83E@gmail.com>

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for opinions!


Best regards,

David Roth



From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 26 23:49:00 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:49:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] K2 registration fields
Message-ID: <948970.92958.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi, all.  I'm using K2 for the first time.  I don't see where the user registration fields can be modified or controlled. Are you supposed to do it in the code or through the admin?
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sat Feb 27 11:14:13 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:14:13 -0500
Subject: [joomla] K2 registration fields
In-Reply-To: <948970.92958.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <948970.92958.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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They can't.  :-(

If you can't get by with what they give you... I REALLY recommend switching
to a different user registration package.

If you MUST use K2, you will need to make changes in the following areas:
1) System plugins: K2 uses system plugins to detect when a new user is
registering and modify the registration form to add their fields
2) User plugins: K2 uses the user registration event to then grab it's own
fields[see system plugin above] and add that data to it's database
3) K2 user controller, model, and views: K2 information which is displayed
to the user, searches, etc are all done in this code.

The upside of K2 is it has a very nice ACL system for itself which is all
leveraged off it's user system

The downside of K2 is that even if you neutar the user stuff and use
something else, you still need part of it to handle the user groups for the
acl.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <
donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi, all.  I'm using K2 for the first time.  I don't see where the user
> registration fields can be modified or controlled. Are you supposed to do it
> in the code or through the admin?
>
>
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 27 11:31:58 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:31:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] K2 registration fields
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002270814w42f3dd2fjd48a4448fefadd4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <948970.92958.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <753982.85300.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I can get by with just renaming the existing fields.  That *should* be simpler. 





________________________________
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:14:13 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] K2 registration fields

They can't.  :-(

If you can't get by with what they give you... I REALLY recommend switching to a different user registration package.

If you MUST use K2, you will need to make changes in the following areas:
1) System plugins: K2 uses system plugins to detect when a new user is registering and modify the registration form to add their fields
2) User plugins: K2 uses the user registration event to then grab it's own fields[see system plugin above] and add that data to it's database
3) K2 user controller, model, and views: K2 information which is displayed to the user, searches, etc are all done in this code.

The upside of K2 is it has a very nice ACL system for itself which is all leveraged off it's user system

The downside of K2 is that even if you neutar the user stuff and use something else, you still need part of it to handle the user groups for the acl.


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi, all.  I'm using K2 for the first time.  I don't see where the user registration fields can be modified or controlled. Are you supposed to do it in the code or through the admin?
>
> 
>_______________________________________________
>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 27 11:33:15 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:33:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] K2 registration fields
In-Reply-To: <753982.85300.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <948970.92958.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4bffc351002270814w42f3dd2fjd48a4448fefadd4@mail.gmail.com>
	<753982.85300.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <91902.388.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To clarify, I meant relabeling the existing fields, so user sees "co. name and address" instead of "description", etc.

 





________________________________
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:31:58 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] K2 registration fields


I can get by with just renaming the existing fields.  That *should* be simpler. 





________________________________
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:14:13 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] K2 registration fields

They can't.  :-(

If you can't get by with what they give you... I REALLY recommend switching to a different user registration package.

If you MUST use K2, you will need to make changes in the following areas:
1) System plugins: K2 uses system plugins to detect when a new user is registering and modify the registration form to add their fields
2) User plugins: K2 uses the user registration event to then grab it's own fields[see system plugin above] and add that data to it's database
3) K2 user controller, model, and views: K2 information which is displayed to the user, searches, etc are all done in this code.

The upside of K2 is it has a very nice ACL system for itself which is all leveraged off it's user system

The downside of K2 is that even if you neutar the user stuff and use something else, you still need part of it to handle the user groups for the acl.


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi, all.  I'm using K2 for the first time.  I don't see where the user registration fields can be modified or controlled. Are you supposed to do it in the code or through the admin?
>
> 
>_______________________________________________
>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


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From compustretch at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 15:30:19 2010
From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:30:19 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
Message-ID: <c2f754301002281230m102e5674j8a97d2355d13be77@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, What are people using for a carousel where the images are linkable?
Most of the carousels on JED seem to be galleries where the images can't be
used as hyperlinks.  CEO has one that you can give an xml list of
hyperlinks, but it only displays a single image at a time (and not, for
example, 4 in a horizontal row...)

Anyway, just wondering if anyone had come a cross a decent carousel that
allows you to display several thumbnails in a horiz. row, hyperlinking each
one to a target URL...?

cheers,

?orest
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 28 16:25:42 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:25:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
In-Reply-To: <c2f754301002281230m102e5674j8a97d2355d13be77@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2f754301002281230m102e5674j8a97d2355d13be77@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <855872.1850.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are you sure they're not linkable?  The ones I've used are all linkable.

I usually use YooTools Carousel.  There's also YooSlider.  Both of these take whatever HTML is in a content article from a specified category and display it as an item in the carousel/slider.

If you don't want YooTools, there's also Frontpage Slideshow: http://www.joomlaworks.gr/






________________________________
From: forest mars <compustretch at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 3:30:19 PM
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?

Hey, What are people using for a carousel where the images are linkable? Most of the carousels on JED seem to be galleries where the images can't be used as hyperlinks.  CEO has one that you can give an xml list of hyperlinks, but it only displays a single image at a time (and not, for example, 4 in a horizontal row...) 

Anyway, just wondering if anyone had come a cross a decent carousel that allows you to display several thumbnails in a horiz. row, hyperlinking each one to a target URL...?

cheers, 

?orest
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From floorguy05 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 28 16:57:00 2010
From: floorguy05 at yahoo.com (Paul Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:57:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
In-Reply-To: <855872.1850.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <443804.3877.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

also try 
http://tools.gavick.com/

--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 4:25 PM

Are you sure they're not linkable?? The ones I've used are all linkable.

I usually use YooTools Carousel.? There's also YooSlider.? Both of these take whatever HTML is in a content article from a specified category and display it as an item in the carousel/slider.

If you don't want YooTools, there's also Frontpage Slideshow: http://www.joomlaworks.gr/



From: forest
 mars <compustretch at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 3:30:19 PM
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?


Hey, What are people using for a carousel where the images are linkable? Most of the carousels on JED seem to be galleries where the images can't be used as hyperlinks.? CEO has one that you can give an xml list of hyperlinks, but it only displays a single image at a time (and not, for example, 4 in a horizontal row...) 


Anyway, just wondering if anyone had come a cross a decent carousel that allows you to display several thumbnails in a horiz. row, hyperlinking each one to a target URL...?

cheers, 

?orest

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From compustretch at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 19:01:19 2010
From: compustretch at gmail.com (forest mars)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:01:19 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
In-Reply-To: <443804.3877.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <855872.1850.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<443804.3877.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c2f754301002281601w69e3dffco91b9a98ce51942ff@mail.gmail.com>

Silly me, I didn't specify JED only, GPL + non-commercial.

So no, I haven't found any non-commercial extensions in JED that incorporate
this relatively simple JQuery.  :-o

-?.


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Paul Hoffman <floorguy05 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> also try
> http://tools.gavick.com/
>
> --- On *Sun, 2/28/10, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>*wrote:
>
>
> Are you sure they're not linkable?  The ones I've used are all linkable.
>
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 19:22:05 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:22:05 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
In-Reply-To: <c2f754301002281601w69e3dffco91b9a98ce51942ff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <855872.1850.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<443804.3877.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<c2f754301002281601w69e3dffco91b9a98ce51942ff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002281622g10847d51n4ca7e66e89e934d5@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:01 PM, forest mars <compustretch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Silly me, I didn't specify JED only, GPL + non-commercial.
>
> So no, I haven't found any non-commercial extensions in JED that
> incorporate this relatively simple JQuery.  :-o
>
>
Hmm,
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/ads-a-affiliates/banner-management/4378
 perhaps?

I dunno..  I'm slowly giving up on the JED.

I myself prefer to use a mix of licenses..... in fact the license I use MOST
often is Public Domain and I really resent having to put a GPL wrapper
around code I have offered to the public domain just to satisfy some license
fanatic's idea of what is correct.

My second preference is a Creative Commons variant.
Creative Commons, Attribution being the first one on my list for
preferences.  Technically GPL is /supposed/ to be attributed, but quite
often they drop it or bury it[see the Joomla project itself that demands all
attributions be stripped from the code and just a reference placed in the
contributors file for everything].  As an example of this, technically you
could not submit /anything/ for inclusion with Joomla core code using Jquery
since they as that
"You don?t have to do anything special to choose one license or the other
and you don?t have to notify anyone which license you are using. You are
free to use a jQuery project in commercial projects as long as the copyright
header is left intact."
http://jquery.org/license

Since the Joomla team specifically instructs people to strip that header -
which to me is a form of theft and I have found actively encouraged by the
GPL community at large.

Sometimes I go with Creative Commons, Attribution, No Derivatives - the
point of this code being when I have something that is a little 'wonky' and
I don't want someone taking my code, bundling it into something else, and
then get angry emails from someone downstream when something breaks[note: I
don't consider it 'distribution' for someone to download and install my code
on someone else's website..... that's doing work as contracted....
distribution is when you add it to your zipfile and then let people download
it].

Now, naturally this does mean that to do this, I have to be scrupulous clean
about writing every line myself and not copying from some example file where
there is a GPL license floating around[after all, that is the point of COPY
right...to prevent or restrict copying].

Oh well...hope my initial sentence helps you out. :-)

-Gary
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 19:24:41 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:24:41 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Speaking of GPL
Message-ID: <4bffc351002281624t7618db93ga012d1f1bb273f4d@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone else find it......incomprehensible how the Joomla Core team
interprets this?

When you receive a full copy of Joomla, within that file are image files for
the Joomla logo as well as many multiple references to Joomla!.

The GPL license insists that it applies to every item in that zipfile.  Not
just code.

Therefore technically, Open Source Matters is blatantly violating the GPL by
including trademarked images and names in a zipfile with GPL items.

Every now and then when I feel snarky, I feel like doing something with the
Joomla Logo and challenging them to finally come clean and settle the issue
in a court of law....instead of using their "we're GPL but we're not GPL"
contortions.
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 28 19:37:08 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?
In-Reply-To: <c2f754301002281601w69e3dffco91b9a98ce51942ff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <855872.1850.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<443804.3877.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<c2f754301002281601w69e3dffco91b9a98ce51942ff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <825944.71146.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You can get the carousel code from dynamicdrive.com and stick it in a module.  I used their script in my pre-Joomla days.






________________________________
From: forest mars <compustretch at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:01:19 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Linkable Carousels?

Silly me, I didn't specify JED only, GPL + non-commercial. 

So no, I haven't found any non-commercial extensions in JED that incorporate this relatively simple JQuery.  :-o

-?.



On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Paul Hoffman <floorguy05 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>also try 
>http://tools.gavick.com/
>
>--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Are you sure they're not linkable?  The ones I've used are all linkable.
>>
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 20:30:35 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:30:35 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Speaking of GPL
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002281624t7618db93ga012d1f1bb273f4d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002281624t7618db93ga012d1f1bb273f4d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002281730g49a60c40h3c514e3def41ece7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone else find it......incomprehensible how the Joomla Core team
> interprets this?
> When you receive a full copy of Joomla, within that file are image files for
> the Joomla logo as well as many multiple references to Joomla!.
> The GPL license insists that it applies to every item in that zipfile. ?Not
> just code.
> Therefore technically, Open Source Matters is blatantly violating the GPL by
> including trademarked images and names in a zipfile with GPL items.
> Every now and then when I feel snarky, I feel like doing something with the
> Joomla Logo and challenging them to finally come clean and settle the issue
> in a court of law....instead of using their "we're GPL but we're not GPL"
> contortions.

I'll weigh in on this one as I'm not exactly famous for not having an
opinion. (cough)

Trademark and copyright simply means OSM owns the name and logo. GPL
however is a software license, which simply means you can do whatever
you want with said software, as long as you comply with the GPL.

Where is there a conflict between trademark and license regarding
Joomla? Pretty sure naming the software joomla and shipping it with a
GPL license doesn't mean you can apply the GPL to the copyright or
trademark.

-- Mitch


From garyamort at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 20:42:56 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:42:56 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Speaking of GPL
In-Reply-To: <330532b61002281730g49a60c40h3c514e3def41ece7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002281624t7618db93ga012d1f1bb273f4d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<330532b61002281730g49a60c40h3c514e3def41ece7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4bffc351002281742p1cc3206evabf1333c5fca3859@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> I'll weigh in on this one as I'm not exactly famous for not having an
> opinion. (cough)
>
>
:-)


> Trademark and copyright simply means OSM owns the name and logo. GPL
> however is a software license, which simply means you can do whatever
> you want with said software, as long as you comply with the GPL.
>
>
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
"?Copyright? also means copyright-like laws that apply to other kinds of
works, such as semiconductor masks." - nope, quite specific that it does not
apply to only the software, but to everything included in the package.

"To ?modify? a work means to copy from or adapt all or part of the work in a
fashion requiring copyright permission, other than the making of an exact
copy. The resulting work is called a ?modified version? of the earlier work
or a work ?based on? the earlier work."

Such as changing the logo included in the software in some manner. :-)

Though :
"e) Declining to grant rights under trademark law for use of some trade
names, trademarks, or service marks; or"

Does leave a lot of wiggle room....   Of course, the same wiggle room has
been used to include trademarked items which are then used by the program to
check for before being able to run.


Basically, what you have is a legal grey area.  It's so trivial no one
actually wants to go through the motions of having it decided by law....  So
the "rules of the road" are basically whatever the GNU.org asserts they
are...or whatever others get away with.


And again, GPL does insist that you can require your copyright notice on
your software...but the Joomla Team routinely removes those.  Hopefully with
permission.
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Sun Feb 28 21:56:14 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:56:14 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Speaking of GPL
In-Reply-To: <4bffc351002281742p1cc3206evabf1333c5fca3859@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4bffc351002281624t7618db93ga012d1f1bb273f4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<330532b61002281730g49a60c40h3c514e3def41ece7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4bffc351002281742p1cc3206evabf1333c5fca3859@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330532b61002281856r660a654cg3f0ae13e0d450fb2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And again, GPL does insist that you can require your copyright notice on
> your software...but the Joomla Team routinely removes those. ?Hopefully with
> permission.

Ok THAT is a good question - I wonder what other FOSS CMS platforms do
regarding copyright notice consolidation.

-- Mitch