From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Wed Feb  2 11:34:20 2011
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:34:20 -0200
Subject: [joomla] Personal pages in Joomla
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=PsHMFeTcZw60WdJ1xU_wWQnEc0tyQe989Cqfd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone!

I have a project where I need to have a personal page for each member of a
medical  institution.

Each member's page should be open to the public. On each page one can find
the member's picture, type of specialization, address, contact information
(phone, email), city, state etc. People visiting the institution's website
could search for the professional they're looking for.

Is there any component out there that does the trick?

Thanks in advance!!

-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  2 11:36:01 2011
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:36:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] Personal pages in Joomla
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=PsHMFeTcZw60WdJ1xU_wWQnEc0tyQe989Cqfd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=PsHMFeTcZw60WdJ1xU_wWQnEc0tyQe989Cqfd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485457.50163.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mosets Tree, Sobi2/SobiPro, JomSocial, etc.




________________________________
From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 11:34:20 AM
Subject: [joomla] Personal pages in Joomla


Hi Everyone!
I have a project where I need to have a personal page for each member of a 
medical  institution. 

Each member's page should be open to the public. On each page one can find the 
member's picture, type of specialization, address, contact information (phone, 
email), city, state etc. People visiting the institution's website could search 
for the professional they're looking for.

Is there any component out there that does the trick?

Thanks in advance!!

-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From ted.coyle at nutrigraphix.com  Thu Feb  3 13:39:46 2011
From: ted.coyle at nutrigraphix.com (Ted Coyle)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:39:46 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Multiple Sites, 1 DB
Message-ID: <FA4E2B85-279D-404F-B272-86940E32929C@nutrigraphix.com>

Does anyone know if it is possible to have two URLs sharing one Joomla database?

Ideally, each site would share core information such as the general page content, but each would have differences in the design template and certain navigational elements, etc.

This is something like a replicating site.


Many thanks...

From rytech123 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  3 16:52:05 2011
From: rytech123 at gmail.com (Laura Gordon)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:52:05 -0500
Subject: [joomla] only 5 tickets left for joomla camp
Message-ID: <AANLkTinTs2ChcotrGKtjD-RpcLAy1hR1t=haxK0mByJJ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Don't miss out, there are only 5 tickets left for joomla!Camp!

*Tickets will NOT be sold at the door, so this is your time!*

To sign up visit:
www.JoomlaNYC.org

Date of event: Sunday, 3/6/2011
Time: 9am - 5pm (registration starts at 8:30am)

thanks,
Laura

-- 
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From joomlanyc at upshotmagazine.com  Thu Feb  3 21:58:10 2011
From: joomlanyc at upshotmagazine.com (Paul Elliott)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:58:10 -0500
Subject: [joomla] instant search
Message-ID: <F2B67F7E-6B01-438B-83C8-CB3951140A7A@upshotmagazine.com>

Does anyone know how to add [Google] Instant Search to a Joomla site?
Is there an extension for this?


From htucker at covenanttek.com  Fri Feb  4 12:16:07 2011
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:16:07 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
Message-ID: <011801cbc48f$367a4020$a36ec060$@covenanttek.com>

Hi All,
I have a client that is having some issues with email and is using a MX
server that is separate from the site's domain.
When I've looked at the zone file (dig castlepointe.com or dig
castlepoint.com mx, etc.) things just look a little funky compared to other
sites I have.
I've been reading through the RFC docs and while they're helpful there's
still a lot about DNS that seems voodoo to me and I could use some help.
Is there anybody who would like to make some quick bucks for an hour or two
of work to looks this over and certify all is as it should be.
Thanks!
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com




From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Sat Feb  5 13:13:50 2011
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:13:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
In-Reply-To: <011801cbc48f$367a4020$a36ec060$@covenanttek.com>
Message-ID: <803409761.115.1296929630300.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>

I suggest looking at intodns.com first to see if any issues show up there

if that doesn't help ... let me know and i'd be happy to help out to solve the issue.

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Tucker" <htucker at covenanttek.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 12:16:07 PM
> Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
> Hi All,
> I have a client that is having some issues with email and is using a
> MX
> server that is separate from the site's domain.
> When I've looked at the zone file (dig castlepointe.com or dig
> castlepoint.com mx, etc.) things just look a little funky compared to
> other
> sites I have.
> I've been reading through the RFC docs and while they're helpful
> there's
> still a lot about DNS that seems voodoo to me and I could use some
> help.
> Is there anybody who would like to make some quick bucks for an hour
> or two
> of work to looks this over and certify all is as it should be.
> Thanks!
> Herb
> 
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php


From rakics at neobee.net  Sat Feb  5 15:03:28 2011
From: rakics at neobee.net (Sasa Rakic)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:03:28 +0100
Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
In-Reply-To: <803409761.115.1296929630300.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
References: <011801cbc48f$367a4020$a36ec060$@covenanttek.com>
	<803409761.115.1296929630300.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
Message-ID: <026301cbc56f$c172f790$4458e6b0$@neobee.net>

Dear Herb,

Here are small instructions how to setup MX records for Gmail.

http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=33353

Best regards,
Sasa

-----Original Message-----
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Dan Horning
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:14 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: Re: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?

I suggest looking at intodns.com first to see if any issues show up there

if that doesn't help ... let me know and i'd be happy to help out to solve
the issue.

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133 PO Box
746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Tucker" <htucker at covenanttek.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 12:16:07 PM
> Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
> Hi All,
> I have a client that is having some issues with email and is using a 
> MX server that is separate from the site's domain.
> When I've looked at the zone file (dig castlepointe.com or dig 
> castlepoint.com mx, etc.) things just look a little funky compared to 
> other sites I have.
> I've been reading through the RFC docs and while they're helpful 
> there's still a lot about DNS that seems voodoo to me and I could use 
> some help.
> Is there anybody who would like to make some quick bucks for an hour 
> or two of work to looks this over and certify all is as it should be.
> Thanks!
> Herb
> 
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP 
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
_______________________________________________
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NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From htucker at covenanttek.com  Sun Feb  6 18:30:33 2011
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:30:33 -0500
Subject: [joomla] DNS Gurus
Message-ID: <00ab01cbc655$d9deacc0$8d9c0640$@covenanttek.com>

Hi Dan and Sasa,
Thanks for the help!
Godspeed!
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:13:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan Horning <dan.horning at planetnoc.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
Message-ID:
	<803409761.115.1296929630300.JavaMail.root at gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I suggest looking at intodns.com first to see if any issues show up there

if that doesn't help ... let me know and i'd be happy to help out to solve
the issue.

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133 PO Box
746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Tucker" <htucker at covenanttek.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 12:16:07 PM
> Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
> Hi All,
> I have a client that is having some issues with email and is using a 
> MX server that is separate from the site's domain.
> When I've looked at the zone file (dig castlepointe.com or dig 
> castlepoint.com mx, etc.) things just look a little funky compared to 
> other sites I have.
> I've been reading through the RFC docs and while they're helpful 
> there's still a lot about DNS that seems voodoo to me and I could use 
> some help.
> Is there anybody who would like to make some quick bucks for an hour 
> or two of work to looks this over and certify all is as it should be.
> Thanks!
> Herb
> 
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com
> 
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:03:28 +0100
From: "Sasa Rakic" <rakics at neobee.net>
To: "'NYPHP SIG: Joomla'" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
Message-ID: <026301cbc56f$c172f790$4458e6b0$@neobee.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Dear Herb,

Here are small instructions how to setup MX records for Gmail.

http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=33353

Best regards,
Sasa

-----Original Message-----
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Dan Horning
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:14 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla
Subject: Re: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?

I suggest looking at intodns.com first to see if any issues show up there

if that doesn't help ... let me know and i'd be happy to help out to solve
the issue.

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133 PO Box
746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Tucker" <htucker at covenanttek.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 12:16:07 PM
> Subject: [joomla] Are there any DNS gurus here?
> Hi All,
> I have a client that is having some issues with email and is using a 
> MX server that is separate from the site's domain.
> When I've looked at the zone file (dig castlepointe.com or dig 
> castlepoint.com mx, etc.) things just look a little funky compared to 
> other sites I have.
> I've been reading through the RFC docs and while they're helpful 
> there's still a lot about DNS that seems voodoo to me and I could use 
> some help.
> Is there anybody who would like to make some quick bucks for an hour 
> or two of work to looks this over and certify all is as it should be.
> Thanks!
> Herb
> 
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List 
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP 
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From kirill at hostnetservices.com  Mon Feb  7 04:46:07 2011
From: kirill at hostnetservices.com (Kirill Poliakov)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 04:46:07 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Recommend a mailing list component
Message-ID: <OF7A12CF97.31081F6C-ON85257830.005093CC-85257830.00512E41@abadona.com>

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From empfarseer at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  8 15:26:01 2011
From: empfarseer at yahoo.com (Wins McDonald)
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:26:01 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla - set Cookie and redirect from home page.
Message-ID: <4D51A6D9.40700@yahoo.com>

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From empfarseer at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  9 14:08:16 2011
From: empfarseer at yahoo.com (Wins McDonald)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:08:16 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla - set Cookie and redirect from home page.
Message-ID: <4D52E620.2010907@yahoo.com>

What is the best way to handle a split home page in Joomla

Index.php (home Page) Checks for Cookie
No Cookie - Load:
Default home page- which is an Opt In -> Subscribed -> set Cookie -> 
Thank You Page



Cookie Found - Load:
Subscriber returns -> Cookie Found -> sent to Subscriber Default Home Page


Any thoughts on a Component/Module/Plugin or way to do this so that it 
is not effected by changing templates?

Thanks

Wins


-- 



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From rdiaztushman at dioscouri.com  Wed Feb  9 16:44:18 2011
From: rdiaztushman at dioscouri.com (Rafael Diaz-Tushman)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:44:18 -0500
Subject: [joomla] NYC Joomla User Group Meeting on February10th - Reminder
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=xzvRjbbsPSw4zdfyDiecmJBy2DrR263X5dyww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=xzvRjbbsPSw4zdfyDiecmJBy2DrR263X5dyww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=zqHtU=wbk7-1SdYJ1kfvS0FG2aXtrTVQDsw2M@mail.gmail.com>

This is just a friendly reminder that TOMORROW (Thursday) is the date for
our February JUG meeting.

Date: Thursday, February 10th

Networking begins at 5:30pm, Alice Tully Bar (on Broadway & 65th, glass bar)
Meeting from 6:30-8:30pm, 70 Lincoln Center Plaza (The Rose Building), 9th
Floor

Chairperson: Rafael Diaz Tushman of Dioscouri.com

Presentations:

   - Rafael Diaz-Tushman: ZOO Content Application Builder:
   http://www.yootheme.com/zoo/
   - Laura Gordon: aidaNews Component: http://www.aimini.it/en
   - Donna Marie Vincent: RSForm Pro:
   http://www.rsjoomla.com/joomla-components/joomla-form.html


Networking after the meeting from 8:30-9:30pm

ALSO NOTE!

JoomlaCamp has only a few seats left!  Registration is NOT available at the
door, so if you want to go, sign up today!
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011
More Info: http://www.joomlanyc.org/meetings-presentations/joomlacamp

--
Rafael Diaz-Tushman, President & CEO
Dioscouri Design: Form and Function
www.dioscouri.com
www.twitter.com/dioscouri
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 10:38:29 2011
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:38:29 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla distributions and HTML5
Message-ID: <4D540675.1040605@gmail.com>

I'm currently working on 3 personal projects and figured I'd see if 
anyone else has done or heard of something similar.

First off, I am working on re-working the Joomla install/configuration 
to move all the Joomla files outside the webroot except for the 
index.php files.  I want to package it all up the way FudForum does[one 
giant PHP file that contains the installer and all the code using the 
halt_compiler function of PHP, 
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.halt-compiler.php

For this project, I don't expect or even care if I succeed, it is more 
that it will allow me to learn more about Joomla core internals for my 
REAL goal.

Real goal, second project: Joomla! Embedded - a Joomla! distribution for 
embedded devices.  Mainly this is using just the Joomla! framework, 
getting rid of a LOT of the external libraries[no need for phpmailer] 
which also means getting rid of some core classes.....and getting rid of 
MySQL[which means replacing the JUser class with something that can 
function with a different user storage structure].

I've got online access to an Elphel to play with, 
http://www3.elphel.com/index.php and it looks promising for setting up a 
digital camera to make my wife happy.  But it's user interface sucks, 
and the only current project to make a better interface is using 
Java[something I avoid using].   So I want a decent Ajax web based 
interface for the camera, and the default distro includes lighthttp and 
PHP 5.2.  Match made in heaven, I can code that!

I first looked at it as writing a small mini framework for the system[as 
I want to use MVC practices, and want userid/permissions 
management]....  but I think in the end building my own mini 
framework[or learning a new one] would take as much time as using 
Joomla! and stripping out all the bulky stuff I don't need.

I figured I might as well ask here if anyone knows of an existing 
project for these first.   Mind you, this is low priority work compared 
to paying work.....but I have some time so my goal is something beta 
level by May 7th[my wife's birthday......you guys just /had/ to schedule 
dev camp for that day didn't you?  :-)]

Lastly, I've been hacking around with HTML5 and was thinking it might 
make for a fun presentation at an upcoming Joomla meeting if there is 
interest.

-Gary


From cozimek at picnet.net  Thu Feb 10 11:58:04 2011
From: cozimek at picnet.net (Ryan W. Ozimek)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:58:04 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Joomla distributions and HTML5
In-Reply-To: <4D540675.1040605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C979834C.5281%cozimek@picnet.net>

Gary,

While I don't have any mind-expanding answers for you, I do think that it
would be awesome if you made a distribution of Joomla for embedded devices!
I just had a great conversation a few days ago with two guys from Finland
that are keen to provide a powerful Joomla experience for mobile phone, and
it sounds like there could be some good synergy there.

Let me know offline if you'd be interested in a connection, and good luck in
your endeavor.  It sounds very cool.

Cheers,
Ryan


On 2/10/11 10:38 AM, "Gary Mort" <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm currently working on 3 personal projects and figured I'd see if
> anyone else has done or heard of something similar.
> 
> First off, I am working on re-working the Joomla install/configuration
> to move all the Joomla files outside the webroot except for the
> index.php files.  I want to package it all up the way FudForum does[one
> giant PHP file that contains the installer and all the code using the
> halt_compiler function of PHP,
> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.halt-compiler.php
> 
> For this project, I don't expect or even care if I succeed, it is more
> that it will allow me to learn more about Joomla core internals for my
> REAL goal.
> 
> Real goal, second project: Joomla! Embedded - a Joomla! distribution for
> embedded devices.  Mainly this is using just the Joomla! framework,
> getting rid of a LOT of the external libraries[no need for phpmailer]
> which also means getting rid of some core classes.....and getting rid of
> MySQL[which means replacing the JUser class with something that can
> function with a different user storage structure].
> 
> I've got online access to an Elphel to play with,
> http://www3.elphel.com/index.php and it looks promising for setting up a
> digital camera to make my wife happy.  But it's user interface sucks,
> and the only current project to make a better interface is using
> Java[something I avoid using].   So I want a decent Ajax web based
> interface for the camera, and the default distro includes lighthttp and
> PHP 5.2.  Match made in heaven, I can code that!
> 
> I first looked at it as writing a small mini framework for the system[as
> I want to use MVC practices, and want userid/permissions
> management]....  but I think in the end building my own mini
> framework[or learning a new one] would take as much time as using
> Joomla! and stripping out all the bulky stuff I don't need.
> 
> I figured I might as well ask here if anyone knows of an existing
> project for these first.   Mind you, this is low priority work compared
> to paying work.....but I have some time so my goal is something beta
> level by May 7th[my wife's birthday......you guys just /had/ to schedule
> dev camp for that day didn't you?  :-)]
> 
> Lastly, I've been hacking around with HTML5 and was thinking it might
> make for a fun presentation at an upcoming Joomla meeting if there is
> interest.
> 
> -Gary
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

-------------------------------------------------
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PICnet, Inc. - http://www.picnet.net
1605 Connecticut Ave, NW, 3rd Floor
Washington, DC 20009
P: 202.585.0239
F: 202.280.1175
T: http://www.twitter.com/cozimek
"Empowering the missions of non-profits through technology"




From scott at wolpow.com  Thu Feb 10 16:17:53 2011
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:17:53 -0800
Subject: [joomla] Joomla distributions and HTML5
In-Reply-To: <4D540675.1040605@gmail.com>
References: <4D540675.1040605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D545601.9000003@wolpow.com>

Sounds like Joomla Lite. Do the reverse of what Mitch did for quizilla. 
Strip out the user functions and anything but pure content management.

Scott Wolpow
On 2/10/2011 7:38 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
> I'm currently working on 3 personal projects and figured I'd see if 
> anyone else has done or heard of something similar.
>
> First off, I am working on re-working the Joomla install/configuration 
> to move all the Joomla files outside the webroot except for the 
> index.php files.  I want to package it all up the way FudForum 
> does[one giant PHP file that contains the installer and all the code 
> using the halt_compiler function of PHP, 
> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.halt-compiler.php
>
> For this project, I don't expect or even care if I succeed, it is more 
> that it will allow me to learn more about Joomla core internals for my 
> REAL goal.
>
> Real goal, second project: Joomla! Embedded - a Joomla! distribution 
> for embedded devices.  Mainly this is using just the Joomla! 
> framework, getting rid of a LOT of the external libraries[no need for 
> phpmailer] which also means getting rid of some core classes.....and 
> getting rid of MySQL[which means replacing the JUser class with 
> something that can function with a different user storage structure].
>
> I've got online access to an Elphel to play with, 
> http://www3.elphel.com/index.php and it looks promising for setting up 
> a digital camera to make my wife happy.  But it's user interface 
> sucks, and the only current project to make a better interface is 
> using Java[something I avoid using].   So I want a decent Ajax web 
> based interface for the camera, and the default distro includes 
> lighthttp and PHP 5.2.  Match made in heaven, I can code that!
>
> I first looked at it as writing a small mini framework for the 
> system[as I want to use MVC practices, and want userid/permissions 
> management]....  but I think in the end building my own mini 
> framework[or learning a new one] would take as much time as using 
> Joomla! and stripping out all the bulky stuff I don't need.
>
> I figured I might as well ask here if anyone knows of an existing 
> project for these first.   Mind you, this is low priority work 
> compared to paying work.....but I have some time so my goal is 
> something beta level by May 7th[my wife's birthday......you guys just 
> /had/ to schedule dev camp for that day didn't you?  :-)]
>
> Lastly, I've been hacking around with HTML5 and was thinking it might 
> make for a fun presentation at an upcoming Joomla meeting if there is 
> interest.
>
> -Gary
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 21:14:36 2011
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:14:36 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Configuring Joomla 1.6 to bridge to Drupal 7 features
Message-ID: <4D549B8C.3090805@gmail.com>

I'm playing with Joomla 1.6 and Drupal 7 on some sample sites [I'll post 
the url's in a few days once I build up content].

One of the things I am doing is looking on how to use Joomla 1.6 in a 
Drupal manner from a user perspective[not coding].

Drupal has 2 very interesting features, Nodes and Taxonomy.

Nodes:
Instead of "content" being the basic unit of measurement, Drupal has the 
concept of "Nodes".... a node is very similar to a content item, it has 
most of the fields a content item as....but it's not specifically 
content.  In Drupal, you then configure different "types" of content, 
basically extending the Node table[either by adding another table and 
linking it, or adding CCK fields to the content, etc].

Everything is stored in nodes + customization.

So an online store "component" does not neccessarily have an a product 
table and an order table.  Instead, it will have a Product Node Type, 
and an Order Node Type.  Only adding more tables if it can't be crammed 
into the existing Node structure.

This way each and every "item" in the Drupal world has it's own unique 
id/row in the node table.

They also setup by default a number of "friendly" content types such as  
"Blog", "Article", "Page"  these are all variations on the simple 
"content" item with slight tweaks, mostly on some default behaviors and 
permissions.  For example, on a magazine/social website "Pages" are the 
'about us' stuff and such.  So only site admins get permission to create 
those content types.  "Articles" are the news stuff so your authors, 
editors, and publishers have various rights there....and by default all 
new articles will go to the frontpage.  Wheras "Blog Entrees" could be 
open for any registered user to create - as all users get their own blog 
space.

Also each content type has friendly details for the end user telling 
them what sort of thing to post there, the rules for posting, etc.

So, there are 2 levels here.  One is that all "things" that get created 
in the normal course of a website have friendly, helpful 
information/guidance/permissions for the user.

The second is all "components" create nodes.

The first level is easily emulated in Joomla! 1.6 ...  simply create 
your categories for standardized pages, with permissions for different 
users and such.  So basicaly, here you are not using categories to 
describe the content of the document, but rather the purpose.  IE you 
don't create an article in the  "IPad" category, a subsection of 
"Gadgets"...  instead you create an article in the "Article" or perhaps 
"Review" category.

The second level requires buy in from extension developers to all agree 
to use the content structure as the base for as much functionality as 
they can...  So my goal is for a small sample site to stick to this 
model....all components use the content tables.

Taxonomy:
This Drupal item is rather interesting.  It began mainly as a free form 
tagging system.....with the added plus that you could have multiple 
"categories" of tags.  So you could have a tagging category which all 
users can add to/use to describe content.  You can also have a tagging 
category for the website authors to use to provide a more 
sophisticated/reliable set of tags for items[for example, users might 
tag an article as "shoes!", wheras fashion authors would tag it as 
"Manolo Blahnik, Fall 2010".  You can also create a taxonomy which is 
/never/ used for tagging anything and is merely a list of frequently 
used terms[for example, create an SEO taxonomy of terms to include in 
most pages and then have a script run against all submissions to let the 
writer know how many they used.  Or create a SPAM taxonomy of words to 
AVOID in content which will be emailed in order to avoid spam filters.]  
In Drupal 6 there were a number of extensions to Taxonomy, for example 
since Taxonomy was just a list of terms, there was a module that added a 
definition field - so now you could create a glossary.

For the longest time, in Joomla 1.5 the easiest  way to emulate this was 
to use Remository's Glossary component: 
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/living/education-a-culture/glossary/143  
And all in all it is a pretty sweeet component.

However, I REALLY want to stick as close to core as possible.  And the 
new Category system for content seems like a pretty good system for 
taxonomy.

All you have to do is create a parent "Category" with the permissions 
set so that /no one/ can create a content item in that category.  For 
example: "Freetagging" for tags.  Or "Tech Terms" for a glossary.  Every 
category has a description field which can be used to provide 
definitions of the term for glossary's or other information.  There is 
still work to be done to build components that build on this to provide 
management and user interfaces - yet all in all the basic design is 
sweeeeet in that at least a lot of this is already provided FOR us.

Give me a week or so and I'll post back on some reports of how well it 
is working out...  in the meantime I figured I'd solicit others opinions 
since my own ideas tend to get stuck in small caves of techno-babble.






From scott at wolpow.com  Fri Feb 11 00:44:54 2011
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:44:54 -0800
Subject: [joomla] Configuring Joomla 1.6 to bridge to Drupal 7 features
In-Reply-To: <4D549B8C.3090805@gmail.com>
References: <4D549B8C.3090805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D54CCD6.90309@wolpow.com>

Drupal also allows for the styling down to the field level when using 
Views.
The Drupal concept is bare bones and you add everything.
Scott Wolpow

On 2/10/2011 6:14 PM, Gary Mort wrote:
> I'm playing with Joomla 1.6 and Drupal 7 on some sample sites [I'll 
> post the url's in a few days once I build up content].
>
> One of the things I am doing is looking on how to use Joomla 1.6 in a 
> Drupal manner from a user perspective[not coding].
>
> Drupal has 2 very interesting features, Nodes and Taxonomy.
>
> Nodes:
> Instead of "content" being the basic unit of measurement, Drupal has 
> the concept of "Nodes".... a node is very similar to a content item, 
> it has most of the fields a content item as....but it's not 
> specifically content.  In Drupal, you then configure different "types" 
> of content, basically extending the Node table[either by adding 
> another table and linking it, or adding CCK fields to the content, etc].
>
> Everything is stored in nodes + customization.
>
> So an online store "component" does not neccessarily have an a product 
> table and an order table.  Instead, it will have a Product Node Type, 
> and an Order Node Type.  Only adding more tables if it can't be 
> crammed into the existing Node structure.
>
> This way each and every "item" in the Drupal world has it's own unique 
> id/row in the node table.
>
> They also setup by default a number of "friendly" content types such 
> as  "Blog", "Article", "Page"  these are all variations on the simple 
> "content" item with slight tweaks, mostly on some default behaviors 
> and permissions.  For example, on a magazine/social website "Pages" 
> are the 'about us' stuff and such.  So only site admins get permission 
> to create those content types.  "Articles" are the news stuff so your 
> authors, editors, and publishers have various rights there....and by 
> default all new articles will go to the frontpage.  Wheras "Blog 
> Entrees" could be open for any registered user to create - as all 
> users get their own blog space.
>
> Also each content type has friendly details for the end user telling 
> them what sort of thing to post there, the rules for posting, etc.
>
> So, there are 2 levels here.  One is that all "things" that get 
> created in the normal course of a website have friendly, helpful 
> information/guidance/permissions for the user.
>
> The second is all "components" create nodes.
>
> The first level is easily emulated in Joomla! 1.6 ...  simply create 
> your categories for standardized pages, with permissions for different 
> users and such.  So basicaly, here you are not using categories to 
> describe the content of the document, but rather the purpose.  IE you 
> don't create an article in the  "IPad" category, a subsection of 
> "Gadgets"...  instead you create an article in the "Article" or 
> perhaps "Review" category.
>
> The second level requires buy in from extension developers to all 
> agree to use the content structure as the base for as much 
> functionality as they can...  So my goal is for a small sample site to 
> stick to this model....all components use the content tables.
>
> Taxonomy:
> This Drupal item is rather interesting.  It began mainly as a free 
> form tagging system.....with the added plus that you could have 
> multiple "categories" of tags.  So you could have a tagging category 
> which all users can add to/use to describe content.  You can also have 
> a tagging category for the website authors to use to provide a more 
> sophisticated/reliable set of tags for items[for example, users might 
> tag an article as "shoes!", wheras fashion authors would tag it as 
> "Manolo Blahnik, Fall 2010".  You can also create a taxonomy which is 
> /never/ used for tagging anything and is merely a list of frequently 
> used terms[for example, create an SEO taxonomy of terms to include in 
> most pages and then have a script run against all submissions to let 
> the writer know how many they used.  Or create a SPAM taxonomy of 
> words to AVOID in content which will be emailed in order to avoid spam 
> filters.]  In Drupal 6 there were a number of extensions to Taxonomy, 
> for example since Taxonomy was just a list of terms, there was a 
> module that added a definition field - so now you could create a 
> glossary.
>
> For the longest time, in Joomla 1.5 the easiest  way to emulate this 
> was to use Remository's Glossary component: 
> http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/living/education-a-culture/glossary/143  
> And all in all it is a pretty sweeet component.
>
> However, I REALLY want to stick as close to core as possible.  And the 
> new Category system for content seems like a pretty good system for 
> taxonomy.
>
> All you have to do is create a parent "Category" with the permissions 
> set so that /no one/ can create a content item in that category.  For 
> example: "Freetagging" for tags.  Or "Tech Terms" for a glossary.  
> Every category has a description field which can be used to provide 
> definitions of the term for glossary's or other information.  There is 
> still work to be done to build components that build on this to 
> provide management and user interfaces - yet all in all the basic 
> design is sweeeeet in that at least a lot of this is already provided 
> FOR us.
>
> Give me a week or so and I'll post back on some reports of how well it 
> is working out...  in the meantime I figured I'd solicit others 
> opinions since my own ideas tend to get stuck in small caves of 
> techno-babble.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From garyamort at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 00:33:51 2011
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:33:51 -0500
Subject: [joomla] J!Embedded
In-Reply-To: <C979834C.5281%cozimek@picnet.net>
References: <C979834C.5281%cozimek@picnet.net>
Message-ID: <4D54CA3F.5090205@gmail.com>

Hi Ryan,

I figured I might as well ask....  I have no problem if you pass on my 
contact info to others for this project and I'll be happy to shoot you 
the link to the project page/code repo once it hits alpha if your 
interested.

I rather expect that I have different goals than the guys in Finland, 
but having someone to bounce thoughts off of couldn't hurt.

Just to explain a bit, I'm currently unemployed. I lost my fulltime job 
last year and have not really gotten anywhere with looking for work due 
to living 2-2.5 hours north of NYC and not being willing to go down to 
NYC more than 2 days a week yet.  I've done some minor freelancing, but 
my main issue is almost no portfolio since all the websites I've worked 
on in the past where over 4 years ago[other than this one job] so not a 
lot to show.

I figure I might as well do some mini projects of my own to give others 
a sense of what I'm capable of.

For this particular project....my wife has been complaining for years 
about how loooong digital cameras take from pushing the button to taking 
a picture.  Last year I learned about DSLR camera's which are damn 
fast....but cost 750-1000....not in the budget while unemployed!

The Elphel looks like all the bits are there for a decent DSLR 
camera....but there is no interface.  If I can code up a decent 
interface for taking pics, reviewing them, uploading them, etc it will 
be perfect.

The hardware for the Elphel runs around 1000....but I think I can bring 
that down to 300-400 by subbing some newer all in one pc boards...plus 
it looks damn good on a resume.

By using Joomla as my base, I can use the Joomla! coding standards and 
shortcut a lot of nailbiting over how to design the base and skip right 
to the good stuff.

So my embedded version of Joomla! is, at first, just going to be enough 
to do what I need and not much more...if the project takes off after 
that I can make tweaks as needed....and since I'll stick all the code up 
on github others are free to fork it.

One problem I do have is what to call the dang thing.  Personally I'd go 
with J!Embedded and J!Elphel [for the Elphel specific vs Embedded 
version]....but I lack the patience to go through the approval process 
for Trademark and Copyrights with the Open Source Matters contacts[I've 
had bad luck getting replies in the past].  If you know any way to 
streamline that process, or to get provisional permission so I can use 
those names at least for the Alpha it would be great.



On 2/10/2011 11:58 AM, Ryan W. Ozimek wrote:
> Gary,
>
> While I don't have any mind-expanding answers for you, I do think that it
> would be awesome if you made a distribution of Joomla for embedded devices!
> I just had a great conversation a few days ago with two guys from Finland
> that are keen to provide a powerful Joomla experience for mobile phone, and
> it sounds like there could be some good synergy there.
>
> Let me know offline if you'd be interested in a connection, and good luck in
> your endeavor.  It sounds very cool.
>
> Cheers,
> Ryan
>
>
> On 2/10/11 10:38 AM, "Gary Mort"<garyamort at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> I'm currently working on 3 personal projects and figured I'd see if
>> anyone else has done or heard of something similar.
>>
>> First off, I am working on re-working the Joomla install/configuration
>> to move all the Joomla files outside the webroot except for the
>> index.php files.  I want to package it all up the way FudForum does[one
>> giant PHP file that contains the installer and all the code using the
>> halt_compiler function of PHP,
>> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.halt-compiler.php
>>
>> For this project, I don't expect or even care if I succeed, it is more
>> that it will allow me to learn more about Joomla core internals for my
>> REAL goal.
>>
>> Real goal, second project: Joomla! Embedded - a Joomla! distribution for
>> embedded devices.  Mainly this is using just the Joomla! framework,
>> getting rid of a LOT of the external libraries[no need for phpmailer]
>> which also means getting rid of some core classes.....and getting rid of
>> MySQL[which means replacing the JUser class with something that can
>> function with a different user storage structure].
>>
>> I've got online access to an Elphel to play with,
>> http://www3.elphel.com/index.php and it looks promising for setting up a
>> digital camera to make my wife happy.  But it's user interface sucks,
>> and the only current project to make a better interface is using
>> Java[something I avoid using].   So I want a decent Ajax web based
>> interface for the camera, and the default distro includes lighthttp and
>> PHP 5.2.  Match made in heaven, I can code that!
>>
>> I first looked at it as writing a small mini framework for the system[as
>> I want to use MVC practices, and want userid/permissions
>> management]....  but I think in the end building my own mini
>> framework[or learning a new one] would take as much time as using
>> Joomla! and stripping out all the bulky stuff I don't need.
>>
>> I figured I might as well ask here if anyone knows of an existing
>> project for these first.   Mind you, this is low priority work compared
>> to paying work.....but I have some time so my goal is something beta
>> level by May 7th[my wife's birthday......you guys just /had/ to schedule
>> dev camp for that day didn't you?  :-)]
>>
>> Lastly, I've been hacking around with HTML5 and was thinking it might
>> make for a fun presentation at an upcoming Joomla meeting if there is
>> interest.
>>
>> -Gary
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> -------------------------------------------------
> Empower your organization with a new Web site!
> Non-Profit Soapbox
> http://www.nonprofitsoapbox.com
>
> Ryan W. Ozimek
> PICnet, Inc. - http://www.picnet.net
> 1605 Connecticut Ave, NW, 3rd Floor
> Washington, DC 20009
> P: 202.585.0239
> F: 202.280.1175
> T: http://www.twitter.com/cozimek
> "Empowering the missions of non-profits through technology"
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From chris at theendrecords.com  Mon Feb 14 12:12:01 2011
From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris French)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:12:01 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Drupal from a joomla'ers view
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	<AD50F54A-3B4B-46CD-8272-AC9BFCD366A3@upshotmagazine.com>
Message-ID: <7C1E39A2-7CA9-4913-9872-1C79C3FC1593@theendrecords.com>

So I wanted to try out drupal 7 because a lot of times there is a debate over the CMS to start a project and I always advocate for joomla, which is mostly because it is what I know the most about. 

I have built probably 50 of so joomla sites, components, modules etc in joomla. 

However, I installed drupal and was trying to test out a few things and i felt like a monkey f**king a football.  Is it just me or is drupal kinda hard to get your head wrapped around?

Chris

From scott at wolpow.com  Mon Feb 14 13:11:32 2011
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:11:32 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Drupal from a joomla'ers view
Message-ID: <tbf8uej259w9lysimwqarplg.1297707092479@email.android.com>

Yes, it is quite differant from joomla. Drupal assumes you already know how to use. But once you get on track it is great.

Chris French <chris at theendrecords.com> wrote:

>So I wanted to try out drupal 7 because a lot of times there is a debate over the CMS to start a project and I always advocate for joomla, which is mostly because it is what I know the most about. 
>
>I have built probably 50 of so joomla sites, components, modules etc in joomla. 
>
>However, I installed drupal and was trying to test out a few things and i felt like a monkey f**king a football.  Is it just me or is drupal kinda hard to get your head wrapped around?
>
>Chris
>_______________________________________________
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From oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 19:10:44 2011
From: oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com (ozzie sutcliffe)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:10:44 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Drupal from a joomla'ers view
In-Reply-To: <tbf8uej259w9lysimwqarplg.1297707092479@email.android.com>
References: <tbf8uej259w9lysimwqarplg.1297707092479@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=g=8y+86fJ6eBgWaAvvdRqB8k7H5d9Whzct8Ux@mail.gmail.com>

so how did the football feel ??

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is quite differant from joomla. Drupal assumes you already know how to use. But once you get on track it is great.
>
> Chris French <chris at theendrecords.com> wrote:
>
>>So I wanted to try out drupal 7 because a lot of times there is a debate over the CMS to start a project and I always advocate for joomla, which is mostly because it is what I know the most about.
>>
>>I have built probably 50 of so joomla sites, components, modules etc in joomla.
>>
>>However, I installed drupal and was trying to test out a few things and i felt like a monkey f**king a football. ?Is it just me or is drupal kinda hard to get your head wrapped around?
>>
>>Chris
>>_______________________________________________
>>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From chris at theendrecords.com  Tue Feb 15 11:00:03 2011
From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris French)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:00:03 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Drupal from a joomla'ers view
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=g=8y+86fJ6eBgWaAvvdRqB8k7H5d9Whzct8Ux@mail.gmail.com>
References: <tbf8uej259w9lysimwqarplg.1297707092479@email.android.com>
	<AANLkTi=g=8y+86fJ6eBgWaAvvdRqB8k7H5d9Whzct8Ux@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4F3DAC3-A77A-426D-BFF9-A6291FACB9CB@theendrecords.com>

HA!, 

I went to strand last night and picked up using drupal and pro drupal 7 development.  Grey sky's are starting to clear up. 

I am starting to see the drupal light, it seems to expect  that you are actually a developer! haha. 



On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:10 PM, ozzie sutcliffe wrote:

> so how did the football feel ??
> 
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>> Yes, it is quite differant from joomla. Drupal assumes you already know how to use. But once you get on track it is great.
>> 
>> Chris French <chris at theendrecords.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> So I wanted to try out drupal 7 because a lot of times there is a debate over the CMS to start a project and I always advocate for joomla, which is mostly because it is what I know the most about.
>>> 
>>> I have built probably 50 of so joomla sites, components, modules etc in joomla.
>>> 
>>> However, I installed drupal and was trying to test out a few things and i felt like a monkey f**king a football.  Is it just me or is drupal kinda hard to get your head wrapped around?
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>> 
>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>> 
>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> 
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>> 
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From scott at wolpow.com  Tue Feb 15 17:14:46 2011
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:14:46 -0800
Subject: [joomla] Drupal from a joomla'ers view
In-Reply-To: <D4F3DAC3-A77A-426D-BFF9-A6291FACB9CB@theendrecords.com>
References: <tbf8uej259w9lysimwqarplg.1297707092479@email.android.com>	<AANLkTi=g=8y+86fJ6eBgWaAvvdRqB8k7H5d9Whzct8Ux@mail.gmail.com>
	<D4F3DAC3-A77A-426D-BFF9-A6291FACB9CB@theendrecords.com>
Message-ID: <4D5AFAD6.9000409@wolpow.com>

Now you understand. :)
Scott Wolpow

On 2/15/2011 8:00 AM, Chris French wrote:
> HA!,
>
> I went to strand last night and picked up using drupal and pro drupal 7 development.  Grey sky's are starting to clear up.
>
> I am starting to see the drupal light, it seems to expect  that you are actually a developer! haha.
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:10 PM, ozzie sutcliffe wrote:
>
>> so how did the football feel ??
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott Wolpow<scott at wolpow.com>  wrote:
>>> Yes, it is quite differant from joomla. Drupal assumes you already know how to use. But once you get on track it is great.
>>>
>>> Chris French<chris at theendrecords.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I wanted to try out drupal 7 because a lot of times there is a debate over the CMS to start a project and I always advocate for joomla, which is mostly because it is what I know the most about.
>>>>
>>>> I have built probably 50 of so joomla sites, components, modules etc in joomla.
>>>>
>>>> However, I installed drupal and was trying to test out a few things and i felt like a monkey f**king a football.  Is it just me or is drupal kinda hard to get your head wrapped around?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>>
>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>>
>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>
>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>
>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 18:38:30 2011
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:38:30 -0500
Subject: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail address) when
 a new user registers on Joomla website?
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6Go5H7F3NJmQMGyAo9wP0aeh==a6xtxZ8Sv3p@mail.gmail.com>

I installed Joomla 1.6, looks very good!

I know when a user adds a link, e-mail to automatically sent to the
admin's e-mail address. I thought this could be also done when a new
user registers, but I'm unable to find it. Or is there another product
from Extensions to manage the registration of users that's more robust
that's popular? Thanks!

David Roth


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 18 18:40:13 2011
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:40:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail address)
	when a new user registers on Joomla website?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6Go5H7F3NJmQMGyAo9wP0aeh==a6xtxZ8Sv3p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6Go5H7F3NJmQMGyAo9wP0aeh==a6xtxZ8Sv3p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <222876.19663.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I get emails when someone registers on my 1.5 site, so it should be in 1.6 
also.  Check the global config screen, or the User Mgr options




________________________________
From: David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 6:38:30 PM
Subject: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail address) when a 
new user registers on Joomla website?

I installed Joomla 1.6, looks very good!

I know when a user adds a link, e-mail to automatically sent to the
admin's e-mail address. I thought this could be also done when a new
user registers, but I'm unable to find it. Or is there another product
from Extensions to manage the registration of users that's more robust
that's popular? Thanks!

David Roth
_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Fri Feb 18 19:02:38 2011
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:02:38 -0500
Subject: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail address)
 when a new user registers on Joomla website?
Message-ID: <AANLkTin=9oRA5Si7zN1VAzGmFbR4R1_wd0B4P+UKr2qQ@mail.gmail.com>

I get emails when someone registers on my 1.5 site, so it should be in 1.6
also.  Check the global config screen, or the User Mgr options
------

Hi Donna! Thanks for the reply. I looked in there and don't see an
option for this. The e-mail address is in there for the admin for the
website itself. Let me ask you, do you have "New User Account
Activiation" set to "self"? Or Is yours set to "admin" so that you are
getting a notification? Thanks!

David Roth


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 18 19:30:34 2011
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:30:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail address)
	when a new user registers on Joomla website?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin=9oRA5Si7zN1VAzGmFbR4R1_wd0B4P+UKr2qQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin=9oRA5Si7zN1VAzGmFbR4R1_wd0B4P+UKr2qQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <588206.8233.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On 1.6, if I set activation to "none" or to "admin", I get an email that someone 
registered.



________________________________
From: David Roth <davidalanroth at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 7:02:38 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail address) when 
a new user registers on Joomla website?

I get emails when someone registers on my 1.5 site, so it should be in 1.6
also.  Check the global config screen, or the User Mgr options
------

Hi Donna! Thanks for the reply. I looked in there and don't see an
option for this. The e-mail address is in there for the admin for the
website itself. Let me ask you, do you have "New User Account
Activiation" set to "self"? Or Is yours set to "admin" so that you are
getting a notification? Thanks!

David Roth
_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Sat Feb 19 01:00:57 2011
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:00:57 -0500
Subject: [joomla] E-mail sent to admin (or other user's e-mail
	address)	when a new user registers on Joomla website?
Message-ID: <DDF4F07F-9AAB-4E5C-8A0E-5AFE2F21FC58@gmail.com>

Thanks for checking this out, Donna. So in order for "self" to send  
email I either have to make some modification to Joomla or perhaps  
there is another registration program to use for Joomla that does this  
and much more. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks!

David Roth


> Donna Marie Vincent donnamarievincent at yahoo.com
> Fri Feb 18 19:30:34 EST 2011
> On 1.6, if I set activation to "none" or to "admin", I get an email  
> that someone
> registered.



From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 18:21:18 2011
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:21:18 -0300
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
Message-ID: <AANLkTimj_13PVvLtj5h=b46-To3oR-xNnipzf6C6BrM5@mail.gmail.com>

I'm very dissapointed with RocketTheme.

I chose one of their themes to redesign the site for a client. I thought it
would save me time, then I realized it's gonna make me WASTE time, trying to
find a solution for a problem they created.

This theme displays a Latest News area on the frontpage. Anyone who knows
Joomla for a sometime time is led to believe it is the Latest News module
placed in a position. AFTER purchasing the theme I found out it's a BIG
FAKE. It uses some hard coding inside an article display this article as
intros and nothing is created dynamically.

A template should be a straight forward solution. The way it is, it's no
life saver, but the Titanic!

Others have complained about this and they recommend us to use K2 and figure
it out by ourselves how to accomplish what should be there straight away.
Unacceptable!

Rocket Theme seems not to care for their customers AT ALL.

I don't like dealing with a business that treats their costumers this way,
after all, this is a PAID club.

I will DEFINETELY NOT recommend it.

I was warned by a Joomla Wizard not to use Rocket Theme. Now I understand
why.

-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 18:54:38 2011
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:54:38 -0500
Subject: [joomla] One of the nice Drupal things Joomla could learn
Message-ID: <4D62FB3E.4050905@gmail.com>

One nice thing with Drupal[6+] is that there not only is a standard way 
of doing things, it's heavily promoted.

In Joomla you have people who put their function libraries in the admin 
directory, and others put them in the public directory.....most split 
them into those that are admin related vs frontend related.

So it's a constant switch back and forth to find everything.

In drupal, everything is /in/ a specific directory.

Moreover, everything follows a common naming structure.

And lastly, for most function calls, you generally make the programmer 
specify the variables, you don't set a bunch of defaults[honestly, all 
the view->load() calls in Joomla drive me crazy trying to remember what 
the system defaults to in that specific instance.

Heck, things are standardized to the point where there is a module[erm, 
component] with a large database of rules to not only parse through code 
for bad practices, but it even will upgrade/convert the code for you.
http://drupal.org/project/coder
And add in http://drupal.org/project/coder_tough_love if you want to 
really hear chapter and verse in how you broke a lot of standards.

I'd love to see this for Joomla....   The one time I decided to run a 
code sniffer on some of my code, loaded up with all the Joomla 1.5 
coding standards library, it was discouraging to have to sift through 
all the Joomla Core broken standards to find my own problems.

And it's not like their even /difficult/ things to fix.  A lot of them 
just require someone to edit the file, as instructed, save it and commit it.

But with Joomla cruddy core repository, it is a real pain and 
demotivational.  I'd happily spend 3 days fixing a bunch of syntax 
problems[boring grunt work] if when I commit the work it goes in as 
"Commited by Gary Mort on XXX date.... message "Fixed 567 coding 
standard nits".

But instead, you have to:
Create an issue in the issue tracker.
Attach your patch file to the tracker.
IF someone feels like it from the core team, they might apply the 
patch.  But their likely to roll it up with some other patches, and 
commit it under their name[yes they will credit the bug tracker issue, 
and if one goes to the bug tracker one sees you did the coding....]

Open Source Coders contribute code for brownie points.  They /want/ to 
be recognized and not with a "thanks to " list with a bunch of names and 
no idea who did what[which has been ret-conned in the past].

This is one of /the/ reasons I'm a big proponent of VCS systems.  
Bazaar, Mercurial, and Git all merge different code changes in such a 
way as to bring along the commit history of who to thank[or blame].

It seems minor and trivial, but I think it's still true.  Give out 
brownie points and you get more [overweight] coders.

-Gary



From htucker at covenanttek.com  Tue Feb 22 05:04:00 2011
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:04:00 -0500
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
Message-ID: <005e01cbd277$d4d214f0$7e763ed0$@covenanttek.com>

Hi Helvecio,
Check out JoomlaWorks UCD module, its free, as in beer, and I've used to
dynamically display content for news and Latest Happenings. It may just be
what you are looking for.
You can display content from a section(s) or category(ies) as Lists, Slider
or Fader. It's a great tool.
Ciao`,
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com


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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:21:18 -0300
From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
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I'm very dissapointed with RocketTheme.

I chose one of their themes to redesign the site for a client. I thought it
would save me time, then I realized it's gonna make me WASTE time, trying to
find a solution for a problem they created.

This theme displays a Latest News area on the frontpage. Anyone who knows
Joomla for a sometime time is led to believe it is the Latest News module
placed in a position. AFTER purchasing the theme I found out it's a BIG
FAKE. It uses some hard coding inside an article display this article as
intros and nothing is created dynamically.

A template should be a straight forward solution. The way it is, it's no
life saver, but the Titanic!

Others have complained about this and they recommend us to use K2 and figure
it out by ourselves how to accomplish what should be there straight away.
Unacceptable!

Rocket Theme seems not to care for their customers AT ALL.

I don't like dealing with a business that treats their costumers this way,
after all, this is a PAID club.

I will DEFINETELY NOT recommend it.

I was warned by a Joomla Wizard not to use Rocket Theme. Now I understand
why.

--
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com http://www.helvecio.com -
http://blog.helvecio.com
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 22 08:40:36 2011
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:40:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <005e01cbd277$d4d214f0$7e763ed0$@covenanttek.com>
References: <005e01cbd277$d4d214f0$7e763ed0$@covenanttek.com>
Message-ID: <400385.57411.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Laura presented the AiDa news module at the last Joomla meeting: 
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/news-display/latest-news/11652, which 
has all the features you could possibly want.




________________________________
From: Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:04:00 AM
Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation

Hi Helvecio,
Check out JoomlaWorks UCD module, its free, as in beer, and I've used to
dynamically display content for news and Latest Happenings. It may just be
what you are looking for.
You can display content from a section(s) or category(ies) as Lists, Slider
or Fader. It's a great tool.
Ciao`,
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
P: 732-497-0326
C: 848-218-9172
F: 732-497-0326
E: htucker at covenanttek.com
W: www.covenanttek.com


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From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
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I'm very dissapointed with RocketTheme.

I chose one of their themes to redesign the site for a client. I thought it
would save me time, then I realized it's gonna make me WASTE time, trying to
find a solution for a problem they created.

This theme displays a Latest News area on the frontpage. Anyone who knows
Joomla for a sometime time is led to believe it is the Latest News module
placed in a position. AFTER purchasing the theme I found out it's a BIG
FAKE. It uses some hard coding inside an article display this article as
intros and nothing is created dynamically.

A template should be a straight forward solution. The way it is, it's no
life saver, but the Titanic!

Others have complained about this and they recommend us to use K2 and figure
it out by ourselves how to accomplish what should be there straight away.
Unacceptable!

Rocket Theme seems not to care for their customers AT ALL.

I don't like dealing with a business that treats their costumers this way,
after all, this is a PAID club.

I will DEFINETELY NOT recommend it.

I was warned by a Joomla Wizard not to use Rocket Theme. Now I understand
why.

--
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Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.comhttp://www.helvecio.com -
http://blog.helvecio.com
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From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Tue Feb 22 12:58:59 2011
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:58:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <400385.57411.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1984350309.377.1298397539178.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>

the rocketheme templates actually do have some of the extras you talked about but sometimes hard coding is needed - I've been using the templates with great success for quite some time. though in this one case yes you are correct - but do you really want intro's generated automatically - i know that for anything i've done my client and I both want full control over the wordings. I think you are looking for a theme that instantly makes your sites look perfect without any work. be cautious about this - you use any template as a starting point and adapt it to your needs - if you wanted a theme to do all of that instantly i feel like you'd pay a LOT more than 90 bucks a year for 4 years of 1.5x templates.

I'm not trying to be mean here - but lets put some valuation to the money you spent on the theme. if you made a theme like they make, and wanted all the perfection you're asking for - i think you'd be paying more like 500 a theme. 

so in seriousness - have we forgotten the valuation factor? what do you value the bump in progress that a less than a 100 bucks a year theme subscription gives you? knowning that the theme bases aren't for everyone - but for a small church or organization to get the look that a theme (from any of the vendors like rockettheme) gives you it's priceless.

oh and one more thing - in the demo site and all the PDF's and source files - it says how to do everything, quite simply too.

personally i view any template as a springboard ... not an end product - what do you think?

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna Marie Vincent" <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:40:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
> Laura presented the AiDa news module at the last Joomla meeting:
> http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/news-display/latest-news/11652
> , which has all the features you could possibly want.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:04:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
> 
> Hi Helvecio,
> Check out JoomlaWorks UCD module, its free, as in beer, and I've used
> to
> dynamically display content for news and Latest Happenings. It may
> just be
> what you are looking for.
> You can display content from a section(s) or category(ies) as Lists,
> Slider
> or Fader. It's a great tool.
> Ciao`,
> Herb
> 
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com


From brynk at JoomlaConnections.com  Tue Feb 22 13:54:14 2011
From: brynk at JoomlaConnections.com (Robert Rynkiewicz)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:54:14 -0500
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <1984350309.377.1298397539178.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
Message-ID: <3874da847ef0244a4bfdb36ff8f5e72e@joomlaconnections.com>

I concur with Dan Horning on this topic. "Springboard" is right on target.

For the money, the template clubs such as RocketTheme, YooTheme, Joomlart,
Shape5, etc...
can give you very good design elements and flexibility to create very
professional websites.

Bob Rynkiewicz
 

"Dan Horning" <dan.horning at planetnoc.com> wrote:
> the rocketheme templates actually do have some of the extras you talked
about
> but sometimes hard coding is needed - I've been using the templates with
great
> success for quite some time. though in this one case yes you are correct
- but
> do you really want intro's generated automatically - i know that for
anything
> i've done my client and I both want full control over the wordings. I
think you
> are looking for a theme that instantly makes your sites look perfect
without any
> work. be cautious about this - you use any template as a starting point
and
> adapt it to your needs - if you wanted a theme to do all of that
instantly i
> feel like you'd pay a LOT more than 90 bucks a year for 4 years of 1.5x
> templates.
> 
> I'm not trying to be mean here - but lets put some valuation to the money
you
> spent on the theme. if you made a theme like they make, and wanted all
the
> perfection you're asking for - i think you'd be paying more like 500 a
theme. 
> 
> so in seriousness - have we forgotten the valuation factor? what do you
value
> the bump in progress that a less than a 100 bucks a year theme
subscription
> gives you? knowning that the theme bases aren't for everyone - but for a
small
> church or organization to get the look that a theme (from any of the
vendors
> like rockettheme) gives you it's priceless.
> 
> oh and one more thing - in the demo site and all the PDF's and source
files - it
> says how to do everything, quite simply too.
> 
> personally i view any template as a springboard ... not an end product -
what do
> you think?
> 
> --
> Dan Horning
> 
> American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
> dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
> 1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
> PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Donna Marie Vincent" <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:40:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
>> Laura presented the AiDa news module at the last Joomla meeting:
>> http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/news-display/latest-news/11652
>> , which has all the features you could possibly want.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:04:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
>> 
>> Hi Helvecio,
>> Check out JoomlaWorks UCD module, its free, as in beer, and I've used
>> to
>> dynamically display content for news and Latest Happenings. It may
>> just be
>> what you are looking for.
>> You can display content from a section(s) or category(ies) as Lists,
>> Slider
>> or Fader. It's a great tool.
>> Ciao`,
>> Herb
>> 
>> Herbert M. Tucker
>> Principal
>> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
>> P: 732-497-0326
>> C: 848-218-9172
>> F: 732-497-0326
>> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
>> W: www.covenanttek.com
> _______________________________________________
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Rynkiewicz
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335-2938

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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 22 14:00:50 2011
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:00:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <1984350309.377.1298397539178.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
References: <1984350309.377.1298397539178.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
Message-ID: <266754.24849.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I find that YooTheme templates are easy to use, clean, and more suitable for 
business sites.  





________________________________
From: Dan Horning <dan.horning at planetnoc.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:58:59 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation

the rocketheme templates actually do have some of the extras you talked about 
but sometimes hard coding is needed - I've been using the templates with great 
success for quite some time. though in this one case yes you are correct - but 
do you really want intro's generated automatically - i know that for anything 
i've done my client and I both want full control over the wordings. I think you 
are looking for a theme that instantly makes your sites look perfect without any 
work. be cautious about this - you use any template as a starting point and 
adapt it to your needs - if you wanted a theme to do all of that instantly i 
feel like you'd pay a LOT more than 90 bucks a year for 4 years of 1.5x 
templates.

I'm not trying to be mean here - but lets put some valuation to the money you 
spent on the theme. if you made a theme like they make, and wanted all the 
perfection you're asking for - i think you'd be paying more like 500 a theme. 


so in seriousness - have we forgotten the valuation factor? what do you value 
the bump in progress that a less than a 100 bucks a year theme subscription 
gives you? knowning that the theme bases aren't for everyone - but for a small 
church or organization to get the look that a theme (from any of the vendors 
like rockettheme) gives you it's priceless.

oh and one more thing - in the demo site and all the PDF's and source files - it 
says how to do everything, quite simply too.

personally i view any template as a springboard ... not an end product - what do 
you think?

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com:: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna Marie Vincent" <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:40:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
> Laura presented the AiDa news module at the last Joomla meeting:
> http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/news-display/latest-news/11652
> , which has all the features you could possibly want.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:04:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
> 
> Hi Helvecio,
> Check out JoomlaWorks UCD module, its free, as in beer, and I've used
> to
> dynamically display content for news and Latest Happenings. It may
> just be
> what you are looking for.
> You can display content from a section(s) or category(ies) as Lists,
> Slider
> or Fader. It's a great tool.
> Ciao`,
> Herb
> 
> Herbert M. Tucker
> Principal
> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
> P: 732-497-0326
> C: 848-218-9172
> F: 732-497-0326
> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
> W: www.covenanttek.com
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Tue Feb 22 17:36:35 2011
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:36:35 -0300
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <1984350309.377.1298397539178.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
References: <400385.57411.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1984350309.377.1298397539178.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTims8myQmkqr_BSFyWL-+_DypMvd4eyu3XmP7azr@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan

I see your point.

The problem is presenting a product with a misleading display.

In this specific template, there's a position with a Latest News
header, titles, intros and images.

I know Joomla for a while and I know it uses a module mod_latestnews,
usually named Latest News, that displays the title of articles only.

I saw that and wondered: how did they do that? Could it be another
module? Or is it the intro text in the main component? Later I find
it's an article. The only one published on the frontpage. And it is
like a placeholder article, where they hard coded intros from other
articles. OK. Not the easiest solution from my point of view, but...

Then, while looking for another answer on how to replicate what the
demo site displays, I came across an answer from one of the RT Team
claiming things are as they are and that we used to TRY to K2 to
replicate it! This doesn't make sense to me and I felt like they don't
care for their customers.

I went the obvious way: I had the intros display on the frontpage only
with a CSS formatting that does the job. Not quite the same, but it's
looking good on the site.

For me, this template misled me to think they were using Joomla basics
to make things happen. Actually, it was not for real or dynamically
created. It was just a fake article that looked good.

I don't understand why they tried to reinvent the wheel and came up
with a square object and think it's all OK.

Am I being too grumpy here? LOL

2011/2/22 Dan Horning <dan.horning at planetnoc.com>:
> the rocketheme templates actually do have some of the extras you talked about but sometimes hard coding is needed - I've been using the templates with great success for quite some time. though in this one case yes you are correct - but do you really want intro's generated automatically - i know that for anything i've done my client and I both want full control over the wordings. I think you are looking for a theme that instantly makes your sites look perfect without any work. be cautious about this - you use any template as a starting point and adapt it to your needs - if you wanted a theme to do all of that instantly i feel like you'd pay a LOT more than 90 bucks a year for 4 years of 1.5x templates.
>
> I'm not trying to be mean here - but lets put some valuation to the money you spent on the theme. if you made a theme like they make, and wanted all the perfection you're asking for - i think you'd be paying more like 500 a theme.
>
> so in seriousness - have we forgotten the valuation factor? what do you value the bump in progress that a less than a 100 bucks a year theme subscription gives you? knowning that the theme bases aren't for everyone - but for a small church or organization to get the look that a theme (from any of the vendors like rockettheme) gives you it's priceless.
>
> oh and one more thing - in the demo site and all the PDF's and source files - it says how to do everything, quite simply too.
>
> personally i view any template as a springboard ... not an end product - what do you think?
>
> --
> Dan Horning
>
> American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
> dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
> 1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
> PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Donna Marie Vincent" <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:40:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
>> Laura presented the AiDa news module at the last Joomla meeting:
>> http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/news-display/latest-news/11652
>> , which has all the features you could possibly want.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Herb Tucker <htucker at covenanttek.com>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:04:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
>>
>> Hi Helvecio,
>> Check out JoomlaWorks UCD module, its free, as in beer, and I've used
>> to
>> dynamically display content for news and Latest Happenings. It may
>> just be
>> what you are looking for.
>> You can display content from a section(s) or category(ies) as Lists,
>> Slider
>> or Fader. It's a great tool.
>> Ciao`,
>> Herb
>>
>> Herbert M. Tucker
>> Principal
>> Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
>> P: 732-497-0326
>> C: 848-218-9172
>> F: 732-497-0326
>> E: htucker at covenanttek.com
>> W: www.covenanttek.com
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com


From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Tue Feb 22 18:44:56 2011
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:44:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTims8myQmkqr_BSFyWL-+_DypMvd4eyu3XmP7azr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1451517435.395.1298418296936.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>

with a number of the modules they used they can't bundle them - there is a list to download other tools - and that's not a fault of RT...

there are a whole bunch of RT modules as well that should be installed too - did you download the included ones from the downloads page?

--
Dan Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helv?cio da Silva" <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:36:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
> Hi Dan
> 
> I see your point.
> 
> The problem is presenting a product with a misleading display.
> 
> In this specific template, there's a position with a Latest News
> header, titles, intros and images.
> 
> I know Joomla for a while and I know it uses a module mod_latestnews,
> usually named Latest News, that displays the title of articles only.
> 
> I saw that and wondered: how did they do that? Could it be another
> module? Or is it the intro text in the main component? Later I find
> it's an article. The only one published on the frontpage. And it is
> like a placeholder article, where they hard coded intros from other
> articles. OK. Not the easiest solution from my point of view, but...
> 
> Then, while looking for another answer on how to replicate what the
> demo site displays, I came across an answer from one of the RT Team
> claiming things are as they are and that we used to TRY to K2 to
> replicate it! This doesn't make sense to me and I felt like they don't
> care for their customers.
> 
> I went the obvious way: I had the intros display on the frontpage only
> with a CSS formatting that does the job. Not quite the same, but it's
> looking good on the site.
> 
> For me, this template misled me to think they were using Joomla basics
> to make things happen. Actually, it was not for real or dynamically
> created. It was just a fake article that looked good.
> 
> I don't understand why they tried to reinvent the wheel and came up
> with a square object and think it's all OK.
> 
> Am I being too grumpy here? LOL


From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Wed Feb 23 08:18:39 2011
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:18:39 -0300
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
In-Reply-To: <1451517435.395.1298418296936.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
References: <AANLkTims8myQmkqr_BSFyWL-+_DypMvd4eyu3XmP7azr@mail.gmail.com>
	<1451517435.395.1298418296936.JavaMail.root@gwilwileth.planetnoc.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinAU0LZs1Z2N-1MNTeC+66GUJCDt5Z578Px2QOj@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, it's not a missing module issue. No extra module is
necessary to achieve what their demo site shows. It's a bad a approach
to a situation that could had been solved with some CSS formatting. It
misleads us who download it, that we'll have the basics with a twist.
Actually, it is a tweak! LOL

2011/2/22 Dan Horning <dan.horning at planetnoc.com>:
> with a number of the modules they used they can't bundle them - there is a list to download other tools - and that's not a fault of RT...
>
> there are a whole bunch of RT modules as well that should be installed too - did you download the included ones from the downloads page?
>
> --
> Dan Horning
>
> American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
> dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
> 1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133
> PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12181
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Helv?cio da Silva" <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:36:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
>> Hi Dan
>>
>> I see your point.
>>
>> The problem is presenting a product with a misleading display.
>>
>> In this specific template, there's a position with a Latest News
>> header, titles, intros and images.
>>
>> I know Joomla for a while and I know it uses a module mod_latestnews,
>> usually named Latest News, that displays the title of articles only.
>>
>> I saw that and wondered: how did they do that? Could it be another
>> module? Or is it the intro text in the main component? Later I find
>> it's an article. The only one published on the frontpage. And it is
>> like a placeholder article, where they hard coded intros from other
>> articles. OK. Not the easiest solution from my point of view, but...
>>
>> Then, while looking for another answer on how to replicate what the
>> demo site displays, I came across an answer from one of the RT Team
>> claiming things are as they are and that we used to TRY to K2 to
>> replicate it! This doesn't make sense to me and I felt like they don't
>> care for their customers.
>>
>> I went the obvious way: I had the intros display on the frontpage only
>> with a CSS formatting that does the job. Not quite the same, but it's
>> looking good on the site.
>>
>> For me, this template misled me to think they were using Joomla basics
>> to make things happen. Actually, it was not for real or dynamically
>> created. It was just a fake article that looked good.
>>
>> I don't understand why they tried to reinvent the wheel and came up
>> with a square object and think it's all OK.
>>
>> Am I being too grumpy here? LOL
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From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Wed Feb 23 18:30:01 2011
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:30:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
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makes sense! if i can ever bee of any help just give me a call or email! I guess i've just gotten used to those quirks that i don't even think about it.

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helv?cio da Silva" <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:18:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
> Actually, it's not a missing module issue. No extra module is
> necessary to achieve what their demo site shows. It's a bad a approach
> to a situation that could had been solved with some CSS formatting. It
> misleads us who download it, that we'll have the basics with a twist.
> Actually, it is a tweak! LOL


From garyamort at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 21:34:50 2011
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:34:50 -0500
Subject: [joomla] RocketTheme: use it with moderation
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On 2/23/2011 8:18 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> Actually, it's not a missing module issue. No extra module is
> necessary to achieve what their demo site shows. It's a bad a approach
> to a situation that could had been solved with some CSS formatting. It
> misleads us who download it, that we'll have the basics with a twist.
> Actually, it is a tweak! LOL


I have to admit that when I first saw this feature a few years ago, I 
thought it was really neat only to be disappointed that the "module" as 
really a special content item...  There actually ARE modules that do 
this tabbed interface without depending on special content items.

That said...at the end of the day I'm completely fed up with all the 
different template clubs.  Each one has made such a convoluted system in 
the feature race, that you basically need to learn Joomla! + specific 
template coding stuff...

One of these days....  on my crackdream list is setting up a template 
library that is just basic template stuff instead of all the "cool" 
features.

OTOH, Joomla Zen Garden templates may deal with this problem in 1.6
http://jzengarden.org/


From htucker at covenanttek.com  Sun Feb 27 15:45:21 2011
From: htucker at covenanttek.com (Herb Tucker)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:45:21 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Regression testing anyone?
Message-ID: <0c4301cbd6bf$40606d70$c1214850$@covenanttek.com>

Hi All,
I just ran into a situation where after a significant revision to a site by
integrating Community Builder for the extended registration form capability
I missed updating a link in a module and missed it in testing. The client
ran a Google Adwords campaign and the landing page which incorporated this
module didn't work. NOT good. God is good, this happened before the 12,000
emails that go out next week but this still hurt.
The site is fairly complex with over 200 pages of content and a bit of
non-standard functionality.
Are any of you using a web app regression testing suite?
What other means are you using to make sure changes to the code base of the
site don't introduce new problems or re-surface old problems?
Thanks,
Herb

Herbert M. Tucker
Principal
Covenant Technical Services, Inc.
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