[nycphp-talk] Internationaliz/sation - JSP vs. PHP
Mark Jia
markjia at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 2 16:35:42 EDT 2002
yes, I use mysql as well. it is better than oracle to handle mutiple languages from some point. Mysql is a databse that whatever you put in, you can get exactly the same out. you don't need to warry about charsets. If you will do some thing on Chinese and Japanese, it will have some troubles: Chinese has two charsets: GB2312 and Big5. Japanese also has more charsets. maybe you need two open source programs: recode and jcode to do the convert.
Joseph Annino wrote:The MySQL docs have a whole chapter about these issues:
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Character_sets.html
I think MySQL handles these things in a simpler manner than Oracle.
On 10/2/02 1:59 PM, "bruce at mtiglobal.com"
wrote:
> I'll probably be using MySQL -- Oracle is expensive and my friend's
> company is not that big yet. As for unicode, the servers are physically
> located in Taiwan and much of the translation work deals with Chinese, so
> dealing with unicode won't be too much of a problem. I'm sure most of the
> problems one runs into dealing with unicode have already been dealt with.
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>> I wrote my opnion before, but I think it lost in the talk at nyphp.org. I
>> use oracle as the backend dabase, but charset has to be set to utf8
>> when you create a databse, you can use this charset for all languages in
>> oracle. There are two ways to process mitiple languages in php, one is
>> you have two sest of codes put into two different directories. another
>> is you can use a very very long arrary to hold all languages, then print
>> them out depened on the "locale" variable.
>>
>> Joseph Annino wrote:I've had some luck with PHP and unicode, even
>> without explicit support for
>> it in the language. I used mysql as the database backend, and used vlib
>> template to generate all my pages. Unicode text would pass through all
>> of these unharmed, and you could even do searches containing unicode
>> characters. Using a template system like vlib template, creating
>> versions of the site for different languages is as simple as using a
>> different template file. Just make sure you put a tag in the head
>> section of the HTML template to set the encoding appropriately, and use
>> some GET or session variable to specify the language.
>>
>> Depending on what level of internationalization support you need, this
>> may be enough. You can get data in and out regardless of encoding so
>> long as you maintain consistent throughout.
>>
>> On 9/26/02 10:42 AM, "Hans Zaunere" wrote:
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>>> --- bruce at mtiglobal.com wrote:
>>>> I'm going to work on a site for a friend's translation company. His
>>>> company translates technical documents in 30+ asian/european
>>>> languages.
>>>> The site will be to market his company in different countries as well
>>>> as
>>>> have services for his translators.
>>>>
>>>> I've just begun to look through the tutorial on internationalization
>>>> at
>>>> java.sun.com as I begin thinking on the architecture of this site. Is
>>>> there any similar documentation/tutorial online for php?
>>>
>>> There's a mailing list dedicated for the project:
>>> http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php
>>>
>>> And the project itself:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-i18n/
>>>
>>>> Do any of you have experience developing multilingual web sites? If
>>>> yes, have you used JSP, PHP, or any other technology for this?
>>>
>>> I haven't done this sort of thing on this scale, but I have played
>>> around with the php.net/recode functions a bit and some of the
>>> different encodings. I know that there's a few people on this list
>>> that have used the internationalization before, too.
>>>
>>> H
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>> Regards
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>> Mark Jia
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