--OFF LIST -- Re: [nycphp-talk] CQHost and JSP vs. PHP
Oktay Altunergil
nyphp at altunergil.com
Tue Oct 29 10:04:26 EST 2002
See if this might work for you guys.
http://datapipe.com/jsp.asp
Oktay
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:27:56 -0500
Liquid M3 <liquidm3 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I had an extremely bad experience with CQHost. Poor uptime, poor
> communication. My site was down for days at a time.
>
> I was drawn to CQHost by the JSP support (and, in fact, I'm writing a JSP
> version of LiquidClassifiedsXML right now - and have nowhere to host it, now
> that I'm letting my CQHost account expire).
>
> Ever wonder why PHP support is widely available while JSP support is offered
> by relatively few hosts on hosting plans that cost less than $15/month?
> (even though JSP appears to be far more popular with employers)
>
> CQHost blamed its uptime problems on Resin, which it said was causing
> resource utilization problems. This seems plausible enough to me - I can
> see that with client-side apps that Java tends to be a memory and processor
> hog, and I believe that it behaves similarly on the server-side (see
> http://www.chamas.com/bench/index.html and look, especially, at the red bars
> indicating memory usage).
>
> But I don't want to give the appearance of claiming that PHP is good while
> JSP is bad.
>
> My belief is that PHP tends to be better suited for small websites/companies
> while JSP/servlets/EJBs tend to be better suited for large
> websites/companies, particularly ones for which data loss or downtime can
> have catastrophic implications.
>
> I would use JSP/servlets/EJBs if I needed things like failover and message
> queueing - probably important if I am processing trades. I wouldn't want to
> lose a few Soros Fund trades just because the server went down temporarily
> (rather, I'd like them to go into a message queue, to be processed later
> when the server comes back up).
>
> I would use PHP if I needed to make a quick and cheap website that primarily
> serves information as opposed to processing financial transactions.
>
> But this is just my opinion; no doubt, lots of people on this list will
> disagree with me.
>
> And I'll note, before other people point this out, that at least one large
> company appears to be adopting PHP:
> http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
>
> But as far as I can tell, the major Wall Street firms are big
> JSP/servlet/EJB users rather than PHP users.
>
>
> Ted
>
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