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[louie]

greetings folks,


well, i work for NYC company for 6 months free,
on some projects,
doing more than just PHP(,net\\vb\\perl), just to get my H1 visa,
i think, you should charge per project, not  Per hour,
that what i do, after you got the project done, you charge BTH.
for service.
give a fair price for the project,
and keep everyone happy.

funny story, the only company that wanted to 
give me a full time job,
and pay for my H1 had an openning
for A+ and networking shit.
i remember saying the hell with it, why not?!,
the very next day, 
i got my first call 
it was a man with window XP,
the problem? my mouse want move.
i shake it, i tilt it, nothin', he sad.
i put him on hold, 
and quit, work as bus boy for 2 months,
until i got the other gig.   ^_^

just a personal story,
and i know alot of people that tryed
to get H1 via companies just to relocate from other countries,
guess some of them here


best regards,
louie.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Sims" <jellicle at inch.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at nyphp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NYC Freelance rates


> On Monday 20 January 2003 12:03 pm, Edward Potter wrote:
> 
> >   I was just wondering what the going rate for freelance (NYC) PHP
> > programmers was? I have a client that says she is getting scores of
> > resumes where guys are charging less then $20 an hour. I had assumed
> > it was about $40 - $50 these days.
> 
> There has been a lot of useful info in this thread.  One thing that I 
> didn't see mentioned (besides the hordes of unemployed programmers who 
> are willing to work quite cheaply) is that you are also competing 
> against overseas people - India, Russia, etc.
> 
> I know of one company in NYC who is employing a Bulgarian firm.  They 
> have skilled, competent programmers, and the rate is $10/hour - $10/hour 
> that the U.S. firm is paying out, so who knows what the Bulgarians are 
> getting individually for a salary, but it isn't much.
> 
> There are lots of situations where foreign outsourcing isn't really an 
> option, and in those cases contract programmers can expect to continue 
> to demand decent wages.  But if we invented teleportation tomorrow, 
> plumbers wouldn't command $80/hour any more, because you could teleport 
> in skilled plumbers from Bulgaria who would work for a tenner and then 
> teleport them right back home.  That is happening now with any project 
> that can be outsourced overseas.  So watch out, and really cunning 
> programmers will look for market segments where they *aren't* competing 
> against overseas labor.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Sims
> 
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