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[nycphp-talk] NYPHP List Reorganization?

Dan Horning dan at mx2pro.com
Sat Sep 27 01:07:12 EDT 2003


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
> [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NYPHP List Reorganization?
> 
> 
> 
> Out of about 15 posts on the topic, there's 30 different 
> viewpoints, which is good. Thank you for the suggestions, now 
> someone just make a decision :)
> 
> I'm not sure where the notion of an elite list came from, but 
> a NYPHP-AMP would be nothing of the sort - it'd be simply a 
> more poignant list for a specific set of topics.  However, as 
> has correctly been pointed out, it'd probably take away from 
> this list.
> 
> The "problem" that I suggested needed to be solved was not 
> that of the occasional off-topic post; afterall, this is the 
> "Talk list" and a community needs to communicate.  But, I do 
> see a large turnover on subscriptions/unsubscriptions and I 
> think it's important that those who are looking for a 
> poignant technical resource be able to have it.  True, mail 
> filtering makes this less of a problem, but one of the core 
> reasons NYPHP exists is to help support PHP, etc. and make it 
> easy for new users and experts alike to quickly find the 
> resources they need.  It can be difficult enough to 
> adopt/learn a new technology, without wading through a lot of 
> email (whether it be off-topic or on).  I think NYPHP should 
> be as accomodative as possible to users (afterall, PHP is 
> brand new in the grand scheme of programming languages), 
> while retaining a casual community atmosphere that has been 
> NYPHP from the start.
> 
> I think the general consensus has been to *not* grow another 
> list, but other, possibly better options, have surfaced.
> 
> Somethings to consider for future development:
>    -- having the list be "subject line aware"
>    -- maintain a listing of poingant answers/questions, 
> allowing list regulars to refer others to them (a FAQ of sorts)
>    -- build a repository of member's "Favorite Posts" or a "Top 10"
>    -- integrating tips in posts, where people can mark 
> sections of posts as valuable for future reference
> 
> These are fine ideas, and will be developed, but would 
> certainly require some time before they can fully be implemented.
> 
> Two other topics, however, have been voiced in the past, and 
> perhaps they're ready for primetime.  Web forums have come up 
> a lot, but implementing them has gotten lost in the shuffle.  
> A few suggestions have been made:
> 
> -- http://www.phpbb.com
> -- http://www.invisionboard.com
> -- http://www.vbulletin.com
> 
> Of these, or others people have had a positive experience 
> with, which could we go with?  Using a commercial product is 
> fine since quality and functionality of the forum is 
> paramount.  After we decide on a forum application, I'll look 
> at getting it online.
> 
> Lastly, the notion of list guidelines and suggestions is 
> something we're sorely lacking, and something almost all 
> other lists have.  I have some ideas myself, but I'm sure 
> others have better ideas on this than I.  Please contact me 
> if you can pass on some ideas and suggestions for putting 
> this together.
> 
> Thanks all,
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
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