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[nycphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressive fall-back

Kenneth Downs ken at secdat.com
Mon Feb 26 09:41:36 EST 2007


Cliff Hirsch wrote:
> I'm seeing more and more applications that simply do not work if 
> JavaScript is turned off. In fact, I'm looking at purchasing a slick 
> shopping cart that seems great, but I think the lack of progressive 
> fallback is a show stopper.
>
> Whatever happened to building a robust PHP application and only then 
> layering on the client-side enhancements? To me this lack of 
> progressive fall-back is just laziness, arrogance, or the victim of 
> the usual time pressures. This isn't an opinionated group --- right?! 
> So I curious to here what others think.

It's probably just market trends.  Fewer and fewer people have 
Javascript turned off (or so it is perceived), and so they are less and 
less of a constituency.  At some point a person says, why am I bothering 
with this for? Or, how far back to I have to remain compatible? Then a 
lot of people say that, and suddenly Javascript is required.


>
> Are there any data sources that measure what browsers people are using 
> today and what percentage of people turn JS off or don't have it?
>
> Cliff
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