[nycphp-talk] AJAX and State
tedd
tedd at sperling.com
Wed Sep 5 20:36:33 EDT 2007
At 7:47 PM -0400 9/5/07, Steve Manes wrote:
>tedd wrote:
>>Now, what I am asking is not how ajax communication with the server
>>can be used, but rather is there anything beyond that which ajax
>>can provide?
>>
>>Another way of asking this question is, "Besides not triggering a
>>refresh, what can ajax do that php can not?"
>
>You're right: nothing. But just focusing on the get/post mechanics
>as a baseline for comparison is kinda reducing the question to, "is
>there anything client/server can do that client/server can't do?"
>
>Ajax is just a tool. My table saw cuts wood one way, my compound
>miter saw another, my radial arm saw another. Technically, they can
>all do the same cuts. It's just a lot nicer (and safer) to use a
>table saw to rip panels and an SCMS to crosscut long lumber. And
>technically most of what they can do can be done with a manual
>carpenter's saw and a bottle of glucosomine.
>
>Here's an example where Ajax is the better tool. I'm building a
>medical application which has a desktop containing seven collapsible
>DIVs. Each of those DIVs can also have at least two states: view
>and edit. Some have three, with a result list (like a list of
>current insurance policies). That's the way the client wanted it.
>
>Necessarily, there are a lot of queries going on to populate all the
>DIVs on that page: patient demographic info, insurance info,
>guarantor info, family relations info, a list of historical
>referrals, appointments, patient transportation, etc. So
>repopulating that page sucks the air out of the database. If I
>correct a start date for an insurance policy do I really want to
>repopulate that entire desktop page? Heck no.
>
>The better solution is to submit just the form that matters and
>update just those DIVs where that update has data relevance. Mostly
>it's two just queries instead of a dozen: put_foo and get_foo, with
>Ajax arbitrating which display elements get updated.
Oh, I get the reasons for using it. No arguments from me.
The beginning of this thread led me to suspect that someone had found
a way to move data from one browser window to another and I was
focusing in on that, but that turned to be false.
Cheers,
tedd
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