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Wen Huang wenhuang at gmail.com
Thu Nov 6 12:20:18 EST 2008


If you're in the market for an IDE, you should evaluate NetBeans for PHP,
here's the quick pitch:
- open source (free)
- tiny download (30mb)
- PHP editor with integrated support for HTML/CSS/JavaScript (code
completion, hints, templates, etc...)
- Database Explorer/SQL Editor (with a focus on MySQL)
- Debugging via Xdebug
- JavaScript debugging for Firefox and IE(Win)
- Version Control support

Oh, and it's fast.

Also, check out the comments from folks that have tried it at ZendCon and
IPC:
http://blogs.sun.com/netbeansphp/entry/international_php_conference_2008#comments

And, a nice quick intro to some of the NetBeans features:
http://www.netbeans.org/kb/docs/php/wordpress-screencast.html

- w

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>   1. Re: NetBeans/PHP (Konstantin Rozinov)
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>   3. Re: NetBeans/PHP (csnyder)
>   4. RE: NetBeans/PHP (Hans Zaunere)
>   5. Re: NetBeans/PHP (Justin Dearing)
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>   7. Re: NetBeans/PHP (Matteo Rinaudo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:58:10 -0500
> From: "Konstantin Rozinov" <krozinov at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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> can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> necessary) IDE for PHP?
> Is Zend Studio the most popular one out there?
>
> Kon
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Out of curiosity, has anyone used NetBeans/PHP as their environment?
> >
> > Some info:
> >
> > http://blogs.sun.com/netbeansphp/
> >
> > ---
> > Hans Zaunere / Managing Member / New York PHP
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:59:50 -0500
> From: "Ricky Robinett" <Ricky at nylontechnology.com>
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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>  <86F397D96FD09B4792600C76E082F5B692A123 at RODIMUS.nylontechnology.local>
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> I'd highly recommend Eclipse PDT:
> http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>
>
> .....................................
> Ricky Robinett
> Developer
> Zend Certified Engineer, PHP5
> Adobe Certified Expert, ColdFusion 8
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> 350 7th Avenue, 10th Floor
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Konstantin Rozinov
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:58 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
>
> can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> necessary) IDE for PHP?
> Is Zend Studio the most popular one out there?
>
> Kon
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Out of curiosity, has anyone used NetBeans/PHP as their environment?
> >
> > Some info:
> >
> > http://blogs.sun.com/netbeansphp/
> >
> > ---
> > Hans Zaunere / Managing Member / New York PHP
> >      www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:23:33 -0500
> From: csnyder <chsnyder at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Ricky Robinett
> <Ricky at nylontechnology.com> wrote:
> > I'd highly recommend Eclipse PDT:
> > http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
> >
>
> Funny, I just got done commenting on this review of its more expensive
> cousin:
> http://www.dotvoid.com/2008/10/two-weeks-with-zend-studio-for-eclipse/
>
> Every time I start to use Eclipse I'm struck with the thought that you
> couldn't make a more user-hostile environment if you tried. But of
> course, it's all just what you're used to. If you can use emacs and
> like it, you can use anything.
>
> Zend Studio 5.5 (non-free) remains my favorite, but I was impressed
> with the stuff Kevin Hoyt was demoing in Eclipse last night.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:52:35 -0500
> From: "Hans Zaunere" <lists at zaunere.com>
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "'NYPHP Talk'" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Message-ID: <004601c93f99$31cdb200$95691600$@com>
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> > can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> > necessary) IDE for PHP?
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/
>   free
>
> http://www.phpeclipse.de/
>   free
>
> Eclipse + PHP Eclipse
>   priceless
>
> I have some directions too for setting stuff up, if interested.
>
> H
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:20:23 -0500
> From: "Justin Dearing" <zippy1981 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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> Does anyone know a sirte that makes Eclipse PDT MSIs, RPMs, DEBs,
> .APPs (for OSX)? I like eclipse, and I hate the whole "just download a
> zip file and set it up yourself" feel about it.
>
> Visual Studio 2005 is just as configurable and extendable (albeit
> probably with less of a community and with redistribution issues) as
> Eclipse. However, it still has an installer and a bunch of sensible
> default settings that don't detract from that customizability.
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
> >> can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> >> necessary) IDE for PHP?
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/
> >   free
> >
> > http://www.phpeclipse.de/
> >   free
> >
> > Eclipse + PHP Eclipse
> >   priceless
> >
> > I have some directions too for setting stuff up, if interested.
> >
> > H
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:20:59 -0500
> From: "Justin Dearing" <zippy1981 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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> I'd be interested. I'm pretty new to eclipse and some step by step
> howtos might help me learn a few things about it I have not already
> used.
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
> >> can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> >> necessary) IDE for PHP?
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/
> >   free
> >
> > http://www.phpeclipse.de/
> >   free
> >
> > Eclipse + PHP Eclipse
> >   priceless
> >
> > I have some directions too for setting stuff up, if interested.
> >
> > H
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:46:23 -0500
> From: "Matteo Rinaudo" <matteo.rinaudo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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> Eclipse + php plugin for Eclipse. Definitely.
> Matteo
>
> On 11/5/08, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
> >> can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> >> necessary) IDE for PHP?
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/
> >    free
> >
> > http://www.phpeclipse.de/
> >    free
> >
> > Eclipse + PHP Eclipse
> >    priceless
> >
> > I have some directions too for setting stuff up, if interested.
> >
> > H
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
>
> --
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>
> Matteo Rinaudo
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> "God does not play dice with the universe" (Albert Einstein)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:29:40 -0500
> From: "Michael B Allen" <ioplex at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] NetBeans/PHP
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Konstantin Rozinov <krozinov at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > can anyone recommend a good (free would be a big plus but not
> > necessary) IDE for PHP?
> > Is Zend Studio the most popular one out there?
>
> Vim.
>
> No doubt a lot of people will think I'm kidding but seriously, nothing
> is faster than Vim once you get used to the mnemonics because it
> doesn't use the mouse pointer. I run 12 xterms w/ Vim on 6 different
> desktops.
>
> Note that even though Vim users are in the minority these days, a lot
> of serious programmers use it. As a matter of fact, if you're going to
> mention Zend Studio, I can tell you that a number of Zend people use
> Vim.
>
> My only gripe with Vim is that the maintainers have a tendency to
> "improve" it once in a while which means you have to spend a lot of
> time disabling things. For example, vim's syntax highlighting is so
> obnoxious I would not be surprised if it caused epileptic seizures in
> otherwise normal individuals. I just turn it off because I don't want
> my code to look like ransom note. Also, for some reason vim can try to
> be helpful and insert text for you like indentation space and comment
> fragments. My config consists almost entirely of commands to disable
> "features".
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Michael B Allen
> PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO
> http://www.ioplex.com/
>
>
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