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[Peter Sawczynec]

One closing thought:

I think in the analysis of the importance of "browser compatibility"
issue(s), it would be better that we get unfocused from the "older"
browser compatibility issue and bury that and get freshly focused more
on whether our websites are compatible with iPhones and Smartphones and
other tiny devices instead.

Warmest regards, 
 
Peter Sawczynec 
Technology Dir.
blūstudio 
941.893.0396
ps at blu-studio.com 
www.blu-studio.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Sawczynec
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:39 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Periodic Browsercam.com group availability

Now, me I don't guarantee anything (especially not in writing), but I do
use words such as code is "targeted for assured compatibility with" blah
blah.

As far as I can tell, speaking with one handy broad paint stroke, as
long as the JavaScript code in question is always addressing everything
in the DOM via the general and proper "getElementById()" method
including XML=like child elements (and nothing in any older style), then
this JavaScript code is current, correct and sufficiently "cross
browser, platform independent" to work in all relevant and
widely-distributed browsers. If this type of modern democratic
ECMAScript breaks in any old browser, then it is very likely that that
browser is TOO old and is likely a security hazard to code down to in
this day and age. And so I wouldn't bother to do that and I would tell
the client so. And that gets the "old browser compatibility" albatross
off the table too. Yeah, nice.

And so once again, I find that Opera, IE, Safari and FF can all play
ball just by coding to clean modern standards.

I don't use layouts that stretch to 100% page width. That is a CSS
control nightmare. I make one master relatively positioned outer div
container of a fixed width of 900 - 1100 px and then every other div is
an absolutely positioned child div inside the master div.  

  

Warmest regards, 
 
Peter Sawczynec 
Technology Dir.
blūstudio 
941.893.0396
ps at blu-studio.com 
www.blu-studio.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Michele Waldman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:05 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Periodic Browsercam.com group availability

I guarantee all of my css/html works on any browser when I'm finished
without browser specific code.

Uh, Oh.

Michele

> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Artur Marnik
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:57 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Periodic Browsercam.com group availability
> 
> Peter Sawczynec wrote:
> > Essentially: a) don't use any IE specific code; b) don't use any
code
> > that does not run in IE; and c) especially important, don't use any
code
> > that don't run in IE Mac. Just not ever. Do something else. Use some
> > Flash gadget. If you don't do a, b or c; all the code vets itself
and
> > will be browser independent and automagically run on old browsers
too
> > boot going way back.
> >
> 
> So you suggest don't use:
> #some_div {
>   width: 100px;
>   padding: 2px;
>   margin: 1px;
> }
> 
> I don't see anything IE/Firefox/Opera/Chrome specific but check the
> results
> and some resource:
>
http://www.ozzu.com/website-design-forum/firefox-interpret-css-padding-
> differently-t32917.html
> 
> Cross browser compatibility has been a problem since they came up with
> netscape and IE and will never end.
> 
> 
> Artur
> 
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