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[nycphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

Edward Potter edwardpotter at gmail.com
Mon Oct 26 21:33:19 EDT 2009


at this point I think you can do 98% of what ever content management u need
to do in wordpress. it's really that well designed.

with all those free weekends u would be rewarded with, hack objective-C (i'm
pretty much blown away with it), code iphone apps and move to maui or
something like that.

 :-)


On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Joey Derrico <JoeyD473 at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>  Contrary to popular belief of many there is no perfect solutions. Other
> then my blog (wordpress) I have never used a non custom CMS. However,
> despite the potential annoyances/problems of CMS (and frameworks) there is
> one big advantage normally that I can see...the communities that form around
> them which have people who are (normally) willing to help in some fashion.
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> Kristina Anderson wrote:
>
>    ummm, from my experience, in the end it is REALLY easy to just write
>
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>  your
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>  own CMS. You can trash 98% of what the bloated CMS packages out there
>
>
>  give
>
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>  your. You just don't need it. It's so overkill.
>
>
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>  The ease of doing it from scratch varies depending on the complexity of
> both the site's front end, and the internal editorial/content approval
> processes that need to be provided, and of course as usual you have IT
> managers who are convinced that "doing it with frameworks" will save
> tons of time and money.
>
> I've also had the experience of debugging and stabilizing some
> extremely poorly designed written-from-scratch PHP CMSes which lacked
> basic stuff like proper edit-mode handling and whose UIs were almost
> impossible for the end-users to understand...
>
> So while rolling your own CMS is certainly a viable option, these
> frameworks offer a lot of advantages even if they are somewhat bloated
> with idiotic features.  I'm also in a position where this architecture
> was "decided upon" by persons with no actual experience doing things
> this way...which is where the proof-of-concept comes in.  We may do a
> 180 if required.
>
> Kristina
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