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[nycphp-talk] What are everyone's thoughts on Zend Framework.

Edward Potter edwardpotter at gmail.com
Sat Apr 17 19:42:49 EDT 2010


I think CakePHP is pretty amazing myself.  A bit of a learning curve, but
really seems rock solid once you get up to speed.  I'm using 1.3x.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Anthony Wlodarski <ant92083 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On a few certain projects with CakePHP I found not being able use type
> hinting a problem.  Also holding onto PHP 4 for as long as it can hurt us
> OOP practices especially with namespace collisions and class prefixes.
> Don't get me wrong, the implementation of Active Record is amazing in
> CakePHP but when you build complex HABTM relationships loading data can be a
> PITA, thus requiring me to go into each model and set the recursion for how
> deep it will dig into the database because the arrays coming back are
> massive.
>
> In regards to the HABTM complex relationships it was more of a flying by
> the seat of your pants, for example once the application grew we noticed
> that the memory utilization was growing exponentially.  Unfortunately it
> grew so much over a certain amount of time (Site got hit with the Digg
> effect.) that one night it took the box offline.  The client got angry and
> basically blamed us, after finding the docs on how to reduce the depth of
> calls into the DB the damage was done.  We moved to Kohana after that where
> they implement a different system for calling related objects.
>
> -Anthony
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Mutaz Musa <mutazmusa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I used to use CakePHP extensively in my projects but found its limitations
>> on certain projects.
>>
>> I'd also be interested to hear what limitations you came across with Cake.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Anthony Wlodarski <ant92083 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, you are correct.  So far during today experiments I have seen that
>>> it is a loosely coupled library.  The experience so far has been positive.
>>> With Ubuntu I installed it via Apt and I have the "zf" program in my program
>>> path so using it anywhere in the file system is easy.  One thing that took
>>> me a while was to figure out where the library was stored with the Apt
>>> install.  I found the folder then created a symlink and everything was in
>>> proper order.
>>>
>>> -Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Anthony Wlodarski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > What are your thoughts on ZF, what do you like about it and what do
>>>> you
>>>> > dislike about it?
>>>>
>>>> Its not a framework, its a library of components.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Aj.
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