From randalrust at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 09:33:09 2011
From: randalrust at gmail.com (Randal Rust)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:33:09 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Issues with File Permissions
Message-ID: <CAHz22PyBR+mT85tprG6cAzxxksuPKjhmmzPCJ7pqmjz-T8EQwA@mail.gmail.com>

We have a site where if we create a folder or file on the server the
Owner/Group is one name (foo/foo) and if we use the CMS the
Owner/Group is another (bar/bar).

Typically, we set folder permissions to 0777 so that we don't have to
open and close directories for uploading files. However, a hacker
uploaded a couple of files to one of these directories last week, so I
am trying to add code that uses chmod() to properly open and close
directories.

The issue I'm running into is that this only works through the CMS if
the Owner/Group of the directory or file is bar/bar.

I'm trying to figure out what my options are here. Here are a couple
of possibilities:

1. Use bar/bar to create a duplicate directory, copy all of the files
from the original directory to the new one, delete the old directory,
rename the new one. Essentially this makes everything owned by
bar/bar.

2. See if tech support can change the Owner/Group on the server for
the entire directory.

I am not very savvy with this sort of thing, so shell access is really
beyond my skill set. Is it possible to change these settings via SFTP?
Or is there a way via PHP to change the Owner/Group that I am
accessing the files as?

-- 
Randal Rust
R.Squared Communications
www.r2communications.com
www.facebook.com/r2communications
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From chsnyder at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 10:51:47 2011
From: chsnyder at gmail.com (Chris Snyder)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:51:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Issues with File Permissions
In-Reply-To: <CAHz22PyBR+mT85tprG6cAzxxksuPKjhmmzPCJ7pqmjz-T8EQwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHz22PyBR+mT85tprG6cAzxxksuPKjhmmzPCJ7pqmjz-T8EQwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPKKYS22u82L5GZAJ2Su-PxNFOCsYqc7bVmVTShUjNb0t98Xhw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Randal Rust <randalrust at gmail.com> wrote:
> We have a site where if we create a folder or file on the server the
> Owner/Group is one name (foo/foo) and if we use the CMS the
> Owner/Group is another (bar/bar).
>
> Typically, we set folder permissions to 0777 so that we don't have to
> open and close directories for uploading files. However, a hacker
> uploaded a couple of files to one of these directories last week, so I
> am trying to add code that uses chmod() to properly open and close
> directories.
>
> The issue I'm running into is that this only works through the CMS if
> the Owner/Group of the directory or file is bar/bar.
>
> I'm trying to figure out what my options are here.

The rules are that only root can change ownership of a file. So group
id is the only one you have to play with here. A user can change the
group id of a file to any group they are a member of.

In this case, I'd set folder ownership to foo:bar and folder
permissions to 770.

Your host will need to do that for you if foo is not a member of the
bar group. Also, you won't be able to manually manage the files if you
aren't a member of bar.


From ms at stackware.com  Thu Jul  7 09:11:32 2011
From: ms at stackware.com (ms at stackware.com)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:11:32 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] set allow_url_fopen outside of php.ini?
Message-ID: <20110707091132.54114d3c7kfni2kg@webmail.stackware.com>

I am in a situation where I need allow_url_fopen to be on, but it is  
off and I have no access to php.ini (which, according to the docs, is  
the only place where it can be set). Does anybody have any ideas about  
how I can either work around this or set it?

-- 
=================
Michael Southwell
Vice President, Education
NYPHP TRAINING:  http://nyphp.com/Training/Indepth


From rainelemental at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 09:42:47 2011
From: rainelemental at gmail.com (Federico Ulfo)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:42:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] set allow_url_fopen outside of php.ini?
In-Reply-To: <20110707091132.54114d3c7kfni2kg@webmail.stackware.com>
References: <20110707091132.54114d3c7kfni2kg@webmail.stackware.com>
Message-ID: <CAE1ELnKijMmf0agsrA4eMubaXYJRUuGkw=HT40_J4CYU72a=mQ@mail.gmail.com>

You should ask to your provider... and just give a try with an .htaccess
config, not sure, but it might work
php_value allow_url_fopen = On
--
 Federico Ulfo ? <http://www.federicoulfo.it/>
Certified Developer Google & PHP
  <http://www.federicoulfo.it/>



On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:11 AM, <ms at stackware.com> wrote:

> I am in a situation where I need allow_url_fopen to be on, but it is off
> and I have no access to php.ini (which, according to the docs, is the only
> place where it can be set). Does anybody have any ideas about how I can
> either work around this or set it?
>
> --
> =================
> Michael Southwell
> Vice President, Education
> NYPHP TRAINING:  http://nyphp.com/Training/**Indepth<http://nyphp.com/Training/Indepth>
> ______________________________**_________________
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Thu Jul  7 10:14:06 2011
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:14:06 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] set allow_url_fopen outside of php.ini?
In-Reply-To: <CAE1ELnKijMmf0agsrA4eMubaXYJRUuGkw=HT40_J4CYU72a=mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20110707091132.54114d3c7kfni2kg@webmail.stackware.com>
	<CAE1ELnKijMmf0agsrA4eMubaXYJRUuGkw=HT40_J4CYU72a=mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6E69FAD-2312-4C8B-828C-9B31F2740073@beaffinitive.com>


> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:11 AM, <ms at stackware.com> wrote:
> I am in a situation where I need allow_url_fopen to be on, but it is off and I have no access to php.ini (which, according to the docs, is the only place where it can be set). Does anybody have any ideas about how I can either work around this or set it?

On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Federico Ulfo wrote:
> You should ask to your provider... and just give a try with an .htaccess config, not sure, but it might work
> php_value allow_url_fopen = On

.htaccess is a good suggestion.  Otherwise, perhaps the curl extension is installed and you can workaround to use that instead?

-Rob

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From afischer at smith.edu  Thu Jul  7 10:39:20 2011
From: afischer at smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:39:20 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX?
Message-ID: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>

Hey guys,
 
I'd like to spruce up my html/php pages with more dynamic elements and JS/AJAX/JQUERY/JSON type stuff.  My stuff has been mostly html and php to date, only played with javascript a little.  However, I see value in adding more dynamic elements to my pages (showing/hiding div content, calls to php from the page without reloading, etc.).
 
I'm looking for a book that will cover the basics and get me up and running, but also has room to grow and get into more intermediate/advanced stuff.
 
Any thoughts or recommendations would be most appreciated.
 
-Aaron
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From dorgan at donaldorgan.com  Thu Jul  7 11:08:08 2011
From: dorgan at donaldorgan.com (Donald J. Organ IV)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:08:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX?
In-Reply-To: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <3858946.1453.1310051288537.JavaMail.root@mail.twoguyshosting.com>

Look into a jquery book....Its the easiest way to go because it deals with the individual brower issues internally.... 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Fischer" <afischer at smith.edu> 
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:39:20 AM 
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX? 


Hey guys, 

I'd like to spruce up my html/php pages with more dynamic elements and JS/AJAX/JQUERY/JSON type stuff. My stuff has been mostly html and php to date, only played with javascript a little. However, I see value in adding more dynamic elements to my pages (showing/hiding div content, calls to php from the page without reloading, etc.). 

I'm looking for a book that will cover the basics and get me up and running, but also has room to grow and get into more intermediate/advanced stuff. 

Any thoughts or recommendations would be most appreciated. 

-Aaron 
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From anthony at tinkertownlabs.com  Thu Jul  7 11:30:17 2011
From: anthony at tinkertownlabs.com (Anthony Wlodarski)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:30:17 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX?
In-Reply-To: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>
References: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <4E15D109.30504@tinkertownlabs.com>

JavaScript The Definitive Guide:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=JavaScript+The+Definitive+Guide

This is the only book I would trust.  It covers jQuery as well in the 
later chapters (6th edition only).  On top of that it is an excellent 
resource to read if you are delving into Node.js and want to learn more 
about closures, callback functions, and real inner workings of EMCA 
script and how it applies to client side as well as server programming.

-Anthony

On 07/07/2011 10:39 AM, Aaron Fischer wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I'd like to spruce up my html/php pages with more dynamic elements and 
> JS/AJAX/JQUERY/JSON type stuff.  My stuff has been mostly html and php 
> to date, only played with javascript a little.  However, I see value 
> in adding more dynamic elements to my pages (showing/hiding div 
> content, calls to php from the page without reloading, etc.).
> I'm looking for a book that will cover the basics and get me up and 
> running, but also has room to grow and get into more 
> intermediate/advanced stuff.
> Any thoughts or recommendations would be most appreciated.
> -Aaron
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 09:49:11 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:49:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
Message-ID: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>

Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have to add it?

Margaret Michele Waldman
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 09:50:59 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:50:59 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] jquery
Message-ID: <03E62740078949A481710C2F6350EBAB@michelePC>

When was jquery added to work press?  There?s my ajax.

Margaret Michele Waldman
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 09:55:25 2011
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:55:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] jquery
In-Reply-To: <03E62740078949A481710C2F6350EBAB@michelePC>
References: <03E62740078949A481710C2F6350EBAB@michelePC>
Message-ID: <CABcNofN=hdfMX-qCerj2C-CJOur-7AAxSRi7gBDd-cXmGG8eWA@mail.gmail.com>

Several years. Since WP 2.5 -2.6?
On Jul 8, 2011 9:51 AM, "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> When was jquery added to work press? There?s my ajax.
>
> Margaret Michele Waldman
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From dsteplight at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 11:20:44 2011
From: dsteplight at gmail.com (Darryle Steplight)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:20:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>
Message-ID: <CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Margaret,
     I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
types of ajax features do you want to create?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have to
> add it?
>
> Margaret Michele Waldman
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 11:35:04 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:35:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>
	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>

Darryle,

I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which 
means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax 
functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  That's my 
problem.  :-)

Margaret

-----Original Message----- 
From: Darryle Steplight
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

Hi Margaret,
     I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
types of ajax features do you want to create?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
wrote:
> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have 
> to
> add it?
>
> Margaret Michele Waldman
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From dsteplight at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 11:41:44 2011
From: dsteplight at gmail.com (Darryle Steplight)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:41:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>
	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
Message-ID: <CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Margaret,
       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> Darryle,
>
> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
> functionality. ?And, don't worry about the details of my project. ?That's my
> problem. ?:-)
>
> Margaret
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Hi Margaret,
> ? ?I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have
>> to
>> add it?
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>
>
>
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From jontas at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 12:11:37 2011
From: jontas at gmail.com (Jon Tascher)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:11:37 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
Message-ID: <CAP15A6DZcBXCky_LfHUgTdV50Z3uGakUDcv4Qv-7vzaQAG5LtQ@mail.gmail.com>

See: http://codex.wordpress.org/AJAX

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> Several years. Since WP 2.5 -2.6?
> On Jul 8, 2011 9:51 AM, "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
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> From: Darryle Steplight <dsteplight at gmail.com>
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>
> Hi Margaret,
>     I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have
> to
> > add it?
> >
> > Margaret Michele Waldman
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:35:04 -0400
> From: "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
> Message-ID: <6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7 at michelePC>
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> Darryle,
>
> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  That's
> my
> problem.  :-)
>
> Margaret
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darryle Steplight
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Hi Margaret,
>     I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have
> > to
> > add it?
> >
> > Margaret Michele Waldman
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >
> > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
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>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:41:44 -0400
> From: Darryle Steplight <dsteplight at gmail.com>
> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
> Message-ID:
>        <CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ at mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hey Margaret,
>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > Darryle,
> >
> > I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
> > means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
> > functionality. ?And, don't worry about the details of my project. ?That's
> my
> > problem. ?:-)
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
> > To: NYPHP Talk
> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
> >
> > Hi Margaret,
> > ? ?I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
> > work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
> > types of ajax features do you want to create?
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I
> have
> >> to
> >> add it?
> >>
> >> Margaret Michele Waldman
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >>
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Fri Jul  8 12:25:08 2011
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:25:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E172F64.1090602@planetnoc.com>

Margaret,

This list exists to help php developers connect and create solutions - 
we have some very deeply involved members that can answer some deep 
questions - hopefully next time you ask a question on here you're able 
to share details of what you are trying to do - chances are someone here 
has already solved it or can take your project from a week to a day with 
their answers. Intellectual Property and Confidentiality often get in 
the way of speed and growth but if a client is willing to pay you more 
then it's sometimes worthwhile.

hope you find the answer to your need!

On 7/8/2011 11:41 AM, Darryle Steplight wrote:
> Hey Margaret,
>         1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>         2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>  wrote:
>> Darryle,
>>
>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
>> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
>> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  That's my
>> problem.  :-)
>>
>> Margaret

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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 13:35:37 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:35:37 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC><CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com><6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C531F7895E4F4C23978D5D142A8C692B@michelePC>

It crossed my mind that it may not be the full jquery library.  I'll find 
out when I go to test my code.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Darryle Steplight
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

Hey Margaret,
       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
wrote:
> Darryle,
>
> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  That's 
> my
> problem.  :-)
>
> Margaret
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Hi Margaret,
>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have
>> to
>> add it?
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------
> "May the Source be with you."
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
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>
> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>



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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 13:41:00 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:41:00 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC><CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com><6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>

This is what I found:
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js

A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks like I'll 
be good.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Darryle Steplight
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

Hey Margaret,
       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
wrote:
> Darryle,
>
> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  That's 
> my
> problem.  :-)
>
> Margaret
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Hi Margaret,
>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I have
>> to
>> add it?
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------
> "May the Source be with you."
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>



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From ms at stackware.com  Fri Jul  8 14:13:16 2011
From: ms at stackware.com (Michael Southwell)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:13:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] set allow_url_fopen outside of php.ini?
In-Reply-To: <B6E69FAD-2312-4C8B-828C-9B31F2740073@beaffinitive.com>
References: <20110707091132.54114d3c7kfni2kg@webmail.stackware.com>
	<CAE1ELnKijMmf0agsrA4eMubaXYJRUuGkw=HT40_J4CYU72a=mQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<B6E69FAD-2312-4C8B-828C-9B31F2740073@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <4E1748BC.7080303@stackware.com>

On 7/7/2011 10:14, Rob Marscher wrote:
> .htaccess is a good suggestion. Otherwise, perhaps the curl extension is
> installed and you can workaround to use that instead?

with some dancing around, that does it. Thanks!

-- 
=================
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Vice President, Education
NYPHP TRAINING:  http://nyphp.com/Training/Indepth


From lorband at optonline.net  Fri Jul  8 14:37:15 2011
From: lorband at optonline.net (lorband at optonline.net)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:37:15 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX?
In-Reply-To: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>
References: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <e3bede3f2731.4e174e5b@optonline.net>

I also recommend JavaScript The Definitive Guide by David Flanagan.
Loretta Bandera

----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Fischer 
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:47 am
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX?
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org

> Hey guys,
> 
> I'd like to spruce up my html/php pages with more dynamic 
> elements and JS/AJAX/JQUERY/JSON type stuff. My stuff has been 
> mostly html and php to date, only played with javascript a 
> little. However, I see value in adding more dynamic elements to 
> my pages (showing/hiding div content, calls to php from the page 
> without reloading, etc.).
> 
> I'm looking for a book that will cover the basics and get me up 
> and running, but also has room to grow and get into more 
> intermediate/advanced stuff.
> 
> Any thoughts or recommendations would be most appreciated.
> 
> -Aaron
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From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com  Fri Jul  8 17:16:12 2011
From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:16:12 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC><CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com><6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>
Message-ID: <4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>

Margaret,

Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route 
your asynchronous communications.  All you need to do is include the 
main jQuery file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever 
appropriate.  The function has inbuilt success & error methods which 
capture your returned stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through 
into the DOM.

See here for comprehensive documentation:
http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/

Kristina

On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
> This is what I found:
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>
> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks 
> like I'll be good.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Hey Margaret,
>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman 
> <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> Darryle,
>>
>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
>> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
>> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  
>> That's my
>> problem.  :-)
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>
>> Hi Margaret,
>>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
>> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
>> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I 
>>> have
>>> to
>>> add it?
>>>
>>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> "May the Source be with you."
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>
>
>




From evdo.hsdpa at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 17:19:54 2011
From: evdo.hsdpa at gmail.com (Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:19:54 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>
	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>
	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CA+xKNSiOKTibQiUjZJy0p-BE5bSNUUbJu3iBdivY01qgtDEJHg@mail.gmail.com>

HAH! This is exactly what I'm dealing with right now. Thanks Kristina!!

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kristina Anderson
<ka at kacomputerconsulting.com> wrote:
> Margaret,
>
> Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route your
> asynchronous communications. ?All you need to do is include the main jQuery
> file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever appropriate. ?The
> function has inbuilt success & error methods which capture your returned
> stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through into the DOM.
>
> See here for comprehensive documentation:
> http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/
>
> Kristina
>
> On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>>
>> This is what I found:
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>>
>> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code. ?Looks like
>> I'll be good.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>
>> Hey Margaret,
>> ? ? ?1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
>> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
>> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>> ? ? ?2. I'm not worried about ?the details of your project. I was
>> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
>> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
>> professionally said it "that's your problem". ?Good luck.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Darryle,
>>>
>>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which



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From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com  Fri Jul  8 17:40:11 2011
From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:40:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <CA+xKNSiOKTibQiUjZJy0p-BE5bSNUUbJu3iBdivY01qgtDEJHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>	<0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
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YVW Robert.  Be aware of "gotchas" such as that JSON is the default 
$data type and its syntax is very unforgiving.   What gets returned as 
the $msg is whatever text is generated by your PHP file.  So if you do 
an AJAX POST to a PHP script that prints out "This AJAX stuff really is 
easy" that text will get passed right back into your success method and 
you can dump it into a div or whatever you need to do.

On 7/8/2011 5:19 PM, Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing wrote:
> HAH! This is exactly what I'm dealing with right now. Thanks Kristina!!
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kristina Anderson
> <ka at kacomputerconsulting.com>  wrote:
>> Margaret,
>>
>> Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route your
>> asynchronous communications.  All you need to do is include the main jQuery
>> file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever appropriate.  The
>> function has inbuilt success&  error methods which capture your returned
>> stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through into the DOM.
>>
>> See here for comprehensive documentation:
>> http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/
>>
>> Kristina
>>
>> On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>>> This is what I found:
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
>>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>>>
>>> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks like
>>> I'll be good.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
>>> To: NYPHP Talk
>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress&  Ajax
>>>
>>> Hey Margaret,
>>>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
>>> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
>>> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>>>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
>>> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
>>> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
>>> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Darryle,
>>>>
>>>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
>
>




From mkfmncom at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 19:16:06 2011
From: mkfmncom at gmail.com (Matt Kaufman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:16:06 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] jquery
In-Reply-To: <CABcNofN=hdfMX-qCerj2C-CJOur-7AAxSRi7gBDd-cXmGG8eWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <03E62740078949A481710C2F6350EBAB@michelePC>
	<CABcNofN=hdfMX-qCerj2C-CJOur-7AAxSRi7gBDd-cXmGG8eWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAKrFTxJgx1i5YeBsjC=yfyHcAdTXH_cyMc=x6qBUCkZ9Jck5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Lol, Yup the Ajax is hiding there in the Work Press, .... Apparently.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com> wrote:
> Several years. Since WP 2.5 -2.6?
>
> On Jul 8, 2011 9:51 AM, "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> When was jquery added to work press? There?s my ajax.
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 19:31:37 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:31:37 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC><CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com><6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com><0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>
	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>

I was going to use $.ajax, but I thought $.post looked prettier.  What I'm 
doing with this is very simple.  It's just return and success/failure code 
via xml.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kristina Anderson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:16 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

Margaret,

Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route
your asynchronous communications.  All you need to do is include the
main jQuery file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever
appropriate.  The function has inbuilt success & error methods which
capture your returned stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through
into the DOM.

See here for comprehensive documentation:
http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/

Kristina

On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
> This is what I found:
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>
> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks like 
> I'll be good.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Hey Margaret,
>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
> wrote:
>> Darryle,
>>
>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
>> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
>> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  That's 
>> my
>> problem.  :-)
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>
>> Hi Margaret,
>>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
>> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
>> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I 
>>> have
>>> to
>>> add it?
>>>
>>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> "May the Source be with you."
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
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From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com  Fri Jul  8 20:12:25 2011
From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:12:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC><CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com><6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com><0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
	<68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>
Message-ID: <4E179CE9.2070007@kacomputerconsulting.com>

$.post is easier to configure but has less flexibility.  If it has all 
the functionality that you need for the specific instance you have, that 
works!!

K

On 7/8/2011 7:31 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
> I was going to use $.ajax, but I thought $.post looked prettier.  What 
> I'm doing with this is very simple.  It's just return and 
> success/failure code via xml.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kristina Anderson
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:16 PM
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Margaret,
>
> Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route
> your asynchronous communications.  All you need to do is include the
> main jQuery file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever
> appropriate.  The function has inbuilt success & error methods which
> capture your returned stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through
> into the DOM.
>
> See here for comprehensive documentation:
> http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/
>
> Kristina
>
> On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>> This is what I found:
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>>
>> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks 
>> like I'll be good.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>
>> Hey Margaret,
>>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
>> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
>> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
>> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
>> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
>> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman 
>> <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Darryle,
>>>
>>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, 
>>> which
>>> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
>>> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project.  
>>> That's my
>>> problem.  :-)
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
>>> To: NYPHP Talk
>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>>
>>> Hi Margaret,
>>>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
>>> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
>>> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do 
>>>> I have
>>>> to
>>>> add it?
>>>>
>>>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> "May the Source be with you."
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 00:24:44 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:24:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <4E179CE9.2070007@kacomputerconsulting.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC><CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com><6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com><0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com><68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>
	<4E179CE9.2070007@kacomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <AAF7121FE88F46759CD5BB2AE9B71DDD@michelePC>

You can do this with $.post

var jqxhr = $.post("example.php", function() {
      alert("success");
    })
    .success(function() { alert("second success"); })
    .error(function() { alert("error"); })
    .complete(function() { alert("complete"); });

I'll just through in an .error to $(div.formDiv).html("Access Failed. 
Please, contact us if you are seeing this message.");

Anyway, I better stop because this is a php forum.  Anyone know of a good 
javascript forum, I have a question about processing the xml in jquery 
returned from post.  I know how to process it with straight javascript.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kristina Anderson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:12 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

$.post is easier to configure but has less flexibility.  If it has all
the functionality that you need for the specific instance you have, that
works!!

K

On 7/8/2011 7:31 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
> I was going to use $.ajax, but I thought $.post looked prettier.  What I'm 
> doing with this is very simple.  It's just return and success/failure code 
> via xml.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kristina Anderson
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:16 PM
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Margaret,
>
> Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route
> your asynchronous communications.  All you need to do is include the
> main jQuery file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever
> appropriate.  The function has inbuilt success & error methods which
> capture your returned stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through
> into the DOM.
>
> See here for comprehensive documentation:
> http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/
>
> Kristina
>
> On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>> This is what I found:
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>>
>> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks like 
>> I'll be good.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>
>> Hey Margaret,
>>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
>> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
>> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
>> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
>> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
>> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Darryle,
>>>
>>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
>>> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
>>> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project. 
>>> That's my
>>> problem.  :-)
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
>>> To: NYPHP Talk
>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>>
>>> Hi Margaret,
>>>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
>>> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
>>> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I 
>>>> have
>>>> to
>>>> add it?
>>>>
>>>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> "May the Source be with you."
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 00:32:46 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:32:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
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found it:

jQuery.parseXML( data )

-----Original Message----- 
From: Margaret Waldman
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:24 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

You can do this with $.post

var jqxhr = $.post("example.php", function() {
      alert("success");
    })
    .success(function() { alert("second success"); })
    .error(function() { alert("error"); })
    .complete(function() { alert("complete"); });

I'll just through in an .error to $(div.formDiv).html("Access Failed.
Please, contact us if you are seeing this message.");

Anyway, I better stop because this is a php forum.  Anyone know of a good
javascript forum, I have a question about processing the xml in jquery
returned from post.  I know how to process it with straight javascript.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kristina Anderson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:12 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

$.post is easier to configure but has less flexibility.  If it has all
the functionality that you need for the specific instance you have, that
works!!

K

On 7/8/2011 7:31 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
> I was going to use $.ajax, but I thought $.post looked prettier.  What I'm 
> doing with this is very simple.  It's just return and success/failure code 
> via xml.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kristina Anderson
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:16 PM
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Margaret,
>
> Your best bet for jQuery AJAX is to use the $.ajax function to route
> your asynchronous communications.  All you need to do is include the
> main jQuery file and then define your $.ajax function(s) wherever
> appropriate.  The function has inbuilt success & error methods which
> capture your returned stuff from PHP and allow you to pass it through
> into the DOM.
>
> See here for comprehensive documentation:
> http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/
>
> Kristina
>
> On 7/8/2011 1:41 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>> This is what I found:
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.query.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.serialize-object.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.color.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.table-hotkeys.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.form.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.schedule.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.hotkeys.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.dev.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/imgareaselect/jquery.imgareaselect.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.js
>> ./wp-includes/js/jcrop/jquery.Jcrop.dev.js
>>
>> A grep on ajax on the jquery.js file spewed out lotsa code.  Looks like 
>> I'll be good.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:41 AM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>
>> Hey Margaret,
>>       1. Just because a file uses jquery that doesn't mean it has
>> ajax functionality. You still have to make the ajax call on your own
>> if the showcase.js file isn't doing so.
>>       2. I'm not worried about  the details of your project. I was
>> going to help you and provide a solution on how I used my own jquery
>> ajax solution for my own wordpress project, but like you so
>> professionally said it "that's your problem".  Good luck.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Darryle,
>>>
>>> I see the file showcase.js in the themes/js directory uses jquery, which
>>> means jquery must be included, which means it should have ajax
>>> functionality.  And, don't worry about the details of my project. That's 
>>> my
>>> problem.  :-)
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darryle Steplight
>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20 AM
>>> To: NYPHP Talk
>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>>>
>>> Hi Margaret,
>>>    I'm sure there are some WP plugins out there that use ajax to
>>> work but it's not too difficult to create your own solutions. What
>>> types of ajax features do you want to create?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if Wordpress has any ajax features build in or do I 
>>>> have
>>>> to
>>>> add it?
>>>>
>>>> Margaret Michele Waldman
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Sat Jul  9 09:53:48 2011
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:53:48 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
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On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:24 AM, "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> Anyone know of a good javascript forum, I have a question about processing the xml in jquery returned from post.  I know how to process it with straight javascript.

I don't think jquery provides any utilities for handling XML. You might find a plugin that does it - but there's no reason not to use straight javascript if you know something that works.

I don't have a javascript forum to recommend.  It could be worthy of a special nyphp-js list here since javascript and php go pretty hand in hand these days and I'm sure many people here are experts in javascript in addition to php. Or actually, I think we have a nyphp-frontend list already. I guess the only problem is those special lists don't see the same amount of activity as the nyphp-talk list. 

From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Sat Jul  9 09:56:06 2011
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:56:06 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
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On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:32 AM, "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> found it:
> 
> jQuery.parseXML( data )

Whoops, missed this. Ha. I stand corrected. :)


From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 10:04:55 2011
From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:04:55 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <D14C5FBF-5CCE-416F-B181-E835E52B8591@beaffinitive.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>	<0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>	<68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>	<4E179CE9.2070007@kacomputerconsulting.com>	<AAF7121FE88F46759CD5BB2AE9B71DDD@michelePC>
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Message-ID: <4E186007.9050905@kacomputerconsulting.com>

Let's face it, there is NO other list anywhere that can hope to measure 
up to the NY-PHP list.

Kristina

On 7/9/2011 9:53 AM, Rob Marscher wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:24 AM, "Margaret Waldman"<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>  wrote:
>
>> Anyone know of a good javascript forum, I have a question about processing the xml in jquery returned from post.  I know how to process it with straight javascript.
> I don't think jquery provides any utilities for handling XML. You might find a plugin that does it - but there's no reason not to use straight javascript if you know something that works.
>
> I don't have a javascript forum to recommend.  It could be worthy of a special nyphp-js list here since javascript and php go pretty hand in hand these days and I'm sure many people here are experts in javascript in addition to php. Or actually, I think we have a nyphp-frontend list already. I guess the only problem is those special lists don't see the same amount of activity as the nyphp-talk list.
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 17:24:07 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:24:07 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
Message-ID: <DAAB549B4F8D4315A9D5CBAD9AD8ABB9@michelePC>

What is a curl return error of 400?

Margaret Michele Waldman
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 17:24:55 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:24:55 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
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Message-ID: <CD0C20C769D14C35A14C732494C59058@michelePC>

Thank you in advanced.

From: Margaret Waldman 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl

What is a curl return error of 400?

Margaret Michele Waldman


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From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 18:44:02 2011
From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:44:02 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
In-Reply-To: <CD0C20C769D14C35A14C732494C59058@michelePC>
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400 sounds like a server response code not a cURL error code...

HTTP response code 400 is a syntax error in your HTTP request.

K

On 7/9/2011 5:24 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
> Thank you in advanced.
> *From:* Margaret Waldman <mailto:mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
> *To:* NYPHP Talk <mailto:talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Subject:* [nycphp-talk] curl
> What is a curl return error of 400?
> Margaret Michele Waldman
>
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 19:10:31 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:10:31 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
In-Reply-To: <4E18D9B2.8020909@kacomputerconsulting.com>
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Message-ID: <EF606E605A024798880310B7BE9836CD@michelePC>

Thank you.  I?m getting 201 now.  I?m tired.  It?s nap time.

From: Kristina Anderson 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:44 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org 
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] curl

400 sounds like a server response code not a cURL error code...

HTTP response code 400 is a syntax error in your HTTP request.

K

On 7/9/2011 5:24 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote: 
  Thank you in advanced.

  From: Margaret Waldman 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
  To: NYPHP Talk 
  Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl

  What is a curl return error of 400?

  Margaret Michele Waldman

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From mkfmncom at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 19:36:18 2011
From: mkfmncom at gmail.com (Matt Kaufman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 23:36:18 +0000
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
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== Memorize Now ==
      - 1xx: Informational - Request received, continuing process

      - 2xx: Success - The action was successfully received,
        understood, and accepted

      - 3xx: Redirection - Further action must be taken in order to
        complete the request

      - 4xx: Client Error - The request contains bad syntax or cannot
        be fulfilled

      - 5xx: Server Error - The server failed to fulfill an apparently

== And Know Soon!! :) ==
     Status-Code    =
            "100"  ; Section 10.1.1: Continue
          | "101"  ; Section 10.1.2: Switching Protocols
          | "200"  ; Section 10.2.1: OK
          | "201"  ; Section 10.2.2: Created
          | "202"  ; Section 10.2.3: Accepted
          | "203"  ; Section 10.2.4: Non-Authoritative Information
          | "204"  ; Section 10.2.5: No Content
          | "205"  ; Section 10.2.6: Reset Content
          | "206"  ; Section 10.2.7: Partial Content
          | "300"  ; Section 10.3.1: Multiple Choices
          | "301"  ; Section 10.3.2: Moved Permanently
          | "302"  ; Section 10.3.3: Found
          | "303"  ; Section 10.3.4: See Other
          | "304"  ; Section 10.3.5: Not Modified
          | "305"  ; Section 10.3.6: Use Proxy
          | "307"  ; Section 10.3.8: Temporary Redirect
          | "400"  ; Section 10.4.1: Bad Request
          | "401"  ; Section 10.4.2: Unauthorized
          | "402"  ; Section 10.4.3: Payment Required
          | "403"  ; Section 10.4.4: Forbidden
          | "404"  ; Section 10.4.5: Not Found
          | "405"  ; Section 10.4.6: Method Not Allowed
          | "406"  ; Section 10.4.7: Not Acceptable
          | "407"  ; Section 10.4.8: Proxy Authentication Required
          | "408"  ; Section 10.4.9: Request Time-out
          | "409"  ; Section 10.4.10: Conflict
          | "410"  ; Section 10.4.11: Gone
          | "411"  ; Section 10.4.12: Length Required
          | "412"  ; Section 10.4.13: Precondition Failed
          | "413"  ; Section 10.4.14: Request Entity Too Large
          | "414"  ; Section 10.4.15: Request-URI Too Large
          | "415"  ; Section 10.4.16: Unsupported Media Type
          | "416"  ; Section 10.4.17: Requested range not satisfiable
          | "417"  ; Section 10.4.18: Expectation Failed
          | "500"  ; Section 10.5.1: Internal Server Error
          | "501"  ; Section 10.5.2: Not Implemented
          | "502"  ; Section 10.5.3: Bad Gateway
          | "503"  ; Section 10.5.4: Service Unavailable
          | "504"  ; Section 10.5.5: Gateway Time-out
          | "505"  ; Section 10.5.6: HTTP Version not supported


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> Thank you.? I?m getting 201 now.? I?m tired.? It?s nap time.
>
> From: Kristina Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:44 PM
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] curl
>
> 400 sounds like a server response code not a cURL error code...
>
> HTTP response code 400 is a syntax error in your HTTP request.
>
> K
>
> On 7/9/2011 5:24 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>
> Thank you in advanced.
>
> From: Margaret Waldman
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
>
> What is a curl return error of 400?
>
> Margaret Michele Waldman
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From mkfmncom at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 19:37:12 2011
From: mkfmncom at gmail.com (Matt Kaufman)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 23:37:12 +0000
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
In-Reply-To: <CAAKrFTxxZaUXx8cBgXYOypXC_u5hQHYn4Xn2_BNC90046JXTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DAAB549B4F8D4315A9D5CBAD9AD8ABB9@michelePC>
	<CD0C20C769D14C35A14C732494C59058@michelePC>
	<4E18D9B2.8020909@kacomputerconsulting.com>
	<EF606E605A024798880310B7BE9836CD@michelePC>
	<CAAKrFTxxZaUXx8cBgXYOypXC_u5hQHYn4Xn2_BNC90046JXTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAKrFTzeCf_LyAL-bNeaVif-5R_70zbKn24s7cP4Da6GYky3Lw@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, PS and 201 means that you probably achieved what you were trying
to do ;)  So no wonder you are tired....

10.2.2 201 Created

   The request has been fulfilled and resulted in a new resource being
   created. The newly created resource can be referenced by the URI(s)
   returned in the entity of the response, with the most specific URI
   for the resource given by a Location header field. The response
   SHOULD include an entity containing a list of resource
   characteristics and location(s) from which the user or user agent can
   choose the one most appropriate. The entity format is specified by
   the media type given in the Content-Type header field. The origin
   server MUST create the resource before returning the 201 status code.
   If the action cannot be carried out immediately, the server SHOULD
   respond with 202 (Accepted) response instead.

   A 201 response MAY contain an ETag response header field indicating
   the current value of the entity tag for the requested variant just
   created, see section 14.19.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Matt Kaufman <mkfmncom at gmail.com> wrote:
> == Memorize Now ==
> ? ? ?- 1xx: Informational - Request received, continuing process
>
> ? ? ?- 2xx: Success - The action was successfully received,
> ? ? ? ?understood, and accepted
>
> ? ? ?- 3xx: Redirection - Further action must be taken in order to
> ? ? ? ?complete the request
>
> ? ? ?- 4xx: Client Error - The request contains bad syntax or cannot
> ? ? ? ?be fulfilled
>
> ? ? ?- 5xx: Server Error - The server failed to fulfill an apparently
>
> == And Know Soon!! :) ==
> ? ? Status-Code ? ?=
> ? ? ? ? ? ?"100" ?; Section 10.1.1: Continue
> ? ? ? ? ?| "101" ?; Section 10.1.2: Switching Protocols
> ? ? ? ? ?| "200" ?; Section 10.2.1: OK
> ? ? ? ? ?| "201" ?; Section 10.2.2: Created
> ? ? ? ? ?| "202" ?; Section 10.2.3: Accepted
> ? ? ? ? ?| "203" ?; Section 10.2.4: Non-Authoritative Information
> ? ? ? ? ?| "204" ?; Section 10.2.5: No Content
> ? ? ? ? ?| "205" ?; Section 10.2.6: Reset Content
> ? ? ? ? ?| "206" ?; Section 10.2.7: Partial Content
> ? ? ? ? ?| "300" ?; Section 10.3.1: Multiple Choices
> ? ? ? ? ?| "301" ?; Section 10.3.2: Moved Permanently
> ? ? ? ? ?| "302" ?; Section 10.3.3: Found
> ? ? ? ? ?| "303" ?; Section 10.3.4: See Other
> ? ? ? ? ?| "304" ?; Section 10.3.5: Not Modified
> ? ? ? ? ?| "305" ?; Section 10.3.6: Use Proxy
> ? ? ? ? ?| "307" ?; Section 10.3.8: Temporary Redirect
> ? ? ? ? ?| "400" ?; Section 10.4.1: Bad Request
> ? ? ? ? ?| "401" ?; Section 10.4.2: Unauthorized
> ? ? ? ? ?| "402" ?; Section 10.4.3: Payment Required
> ? ? ? ? ?| "403" ?; Section 10.4.4: Forbidden
> ? ? ? ? ?| "404" ?; Section 10.4.5: Not Found
> ? ? ? ? ?| "405" ?; Section 10.4.6: Method Not Allowed
> ? ? ? ? ?| "406" ?; Section 10.4.7: Not Acceptable
> ? ? ? ? ?| "407" ?; Section 10.4.8: Proxy Authentication Required
> ? ? ? ? ?| "408" ?; Section 10.4.9: Request Time-out
> ? ? ? ? ?| "409" ?; Section 10.4.10: Conflict
> ? ? ? ? ?| "410" ?; Section 10.4.11: Gone
> ? ? ? ? ?| "411" ?; Section 10.4.12: Length Required
> ? ? ? ? ?| "412" ?; Section 10.4.13: Precondition Failed
> ? ? ? ? ?| "413" ?; Section 10.4.14: Request Entity Too Large
> ? ? ? ? ?| "414" ?; Section 10.4.15: Request-URI Too Large
> ? ? ? ? ?| "415" ?; Section 10.4.16: Unsupported Media Type
> ? ? ? ? ?| "416" ?; Section 10.4.17: Requested range not satisfiable
> ? ? ? ? ?| "417" ?; Section 10.4.18: Expectation Failed
> ? ? ? ? ?| "500" ?; Section 10.5.1: Internal Server Error
> ? ? ? ? ?| "501" ?; Section 10.5.2: Not Implemented
> ? ? ? ? ?| "502" ?; Section 10.5.3: Bad Gateway
> ? ? ? ? ?| "503" ?; Section 10.5.4: Service Unavailable
> ? ? ? ? ?| "504" ?; Section 10.5.5: Gateway Time-out
> ? ? ? ? ?| "505" ?; Section 10.5.6: HTTP Version not supported
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> Thank you.? I?m getting 201 now.? I?m tired.? It?s nap time.
>>
>> From: Kristina Anderson
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:44 PM
>> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] curl
>>
>> 400 sounds like a server response code not a cURL error code...
>>
>> HTTP response code 400 is a syntax error in your HTTP request.
>>
>> K
>>
>> On 7/9/2011 5:24 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>>
>> Thank you in advanced.
>>
>> From: Margaret Waldman
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
>>
>> What is a curl return error of 400?
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>> ________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>> ________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>


From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 19:53:10 2011
From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 19:53:10 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
In-Reply-To: <CAAKrFTxxZaUXx8cBgXYOypXC_u5hQHYn4Xn2_BNC90046JXTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DAAB549B4F8D4315A9D5CBAD9AD8ABB9@michelePC>	<CD0C20C769D14C35A14C732494C59058@michelePC>	<4E18D9B2.8020909@kacomputerconsulting.com>	<EF606E605A024798880310B7BE9836CD@michelePC>
	<CAAKrFTxxZaUXx8cBgXYOypXC_u5hQHYn4Xn2_BNC90046JXTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E18E9E6.3010603@kacomputerconsulting.com>

Thanks Matt, here's a handy little format she can print out and tape to 
her desk :-)


On 7/9/2011 7:36 PM, Matt Kaufman wrote:
> == Memorize Now ==
>        - 1xx: Informational - Request received, continuing process
>
>        - 2xx: Success - The action was successfully received,
>          understood, and accepted
>
>        - 3xx: Redirection - Further action must be taken in order to
>          complete the request
>
>        - 4xx: Client Error - The request contains bad syntax or cannot
>          be fulfilled
>
>        - 5xx: Server Error - The server failed to fulfill an apparently
>
> == And Know Soon!! :) ==
>       Status-Code    =
>              "100"  ; Section 10.1.1: Continue
>            | "101"  ; Section 10.1.2: Switching Protocols
>            | "200"  ; Section 10.2.1: OK
>            | "201"  ; Section 10.2.2: Created
>            | "202"  ; Section 10.2.3: Accepted
>            | "203"  ; Section 10.2.4: Non-Authoritative Information
>            | "204"  ; Section 10.2.5: No Content
>            | "205"  ; Section 10.2.6: Reset Content
>            | "206"  ; Section 10.2.7: Partial Content
>            | "300"  ; Section 10.3.1: Multiple Choices
>            | "301"  ; Section 10.3.2: Moved Permanently
>            | "302"  ; Section 10.3.3: Found
>            | "303"  ; Section 10.3.4: See Other
>            | "304"  ; Section 10.3.5: Not Modified
>            | "305"  ; Section 10.3.6: Use Proxy
>            | "307"  ; Section 10.3.8: Temporary Redirect
>            | "400"  ; Section 10.4.1: Bad Request
>            | "401"  ; Section 10.4.2: Unauthorized
>            | "402"  ; Section 10.4.3: Payment Required
>            | "403"  ; Section 10.4.4: Forbidden
>            | "404"  ; Section 10.4.5: Not Found
>            | "405"  ; Section 10.4.6: Method Not Allowed
>            | "406"  ; Section 10.4.7: Not Acceptable
>            | "407"  ; Section 10.4.8: Proxy Authentication Required
>            | "408"  ; Section 10.4.9: Request Time-out
>            | "409"  ; Section 10.4.10: Conflict
>            | "410"  ; Section 10.4.11: Gone
>            | "411"  ; Section 10.4.12: Length Required
>            | "412"  ; Section 10.4.13: Precondition Failed
>            | "413"  ; Section 10.4.14: Request Entity Too Large
>            | "414"  ; Section 10.4.15: Request-URI Too Large
>            | "415"  ; Section 10.4.16: Unsupported Media Type
>            | "416"  ; Section 10.4.17: Requested range not satisfiable
>            | "417"  ; Section 10.4.18: Expectation Failed
>            | "500"  ; Section 10.5.1: Internal Server Error
>            | "501"  ; Section 10.5.2: Not Implemented
>            | "502"  ; Section 10.5.3: Bad Gateway
>            | "503"  ; Section 10.5.4: Service Unavailable
>            | "504"  ; Section 10.5.5: Gateway Time-out
>            | "505"  ; Section 10.5.6: HTTP Version not supported
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Margaret Waldman<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>  wrote:
>> Thank you.  I?m getting 201 now.  I?m tired.  It?s nap time.
>>
>> From: Kristina Anderson
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:44 PM
>> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] curl
>>
>> 400 sounds like a server response code not a cURL error code...
>>
>> HTTP response code 400 is a syntax error in your HTTP request.
>>
>> K
>>
>> On 7/9/2011 5:24 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>>
>> Thank you in advanced.
>>
>> From: Margaret Waldman
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
>>
>> What is a curl return error of 400?
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>> ________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>> ________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>




From mkfmncom at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 20:11:49 2011
From: mkfmncom at gmail.com (Matt Kaufman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:11:49 +0000
Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
In-Reply-To: <4E18E9E6.3010603@kacomputerconsulting.com>
References: <DAAB549B4F8D4315A9D5CBAD9AD8ABB9@michelePC>
	<CD0C20C769D14C35A14C732494C59058@michelePC>
	<4E18D9B2.8020909@kacomputerconsulting.com>
	<EF606E605A024798880310B7BE9836CD@michelePC>
	<CAAKrFTxxZaUXx8cBgXYOypXC_u5hQHYn4Xn2_BNC90046JXTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E18E9E6.3010603@kacomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CAAKrFTzGAUBm5t_AMddZj0H4c3nU56xDnR7UXViE+GDst1O0_Q@mail.gmail.com>

:).

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Kristina Anderson
<ka at kacomputerconsulting.com> wrote:
> Thanks Matt, here's a handy little format she can print out and tape to her
> desk :-)
>
>
> On 7/9/2011 7:36 PM, Matt Kaufman wrote:
>>
>> == Memorize Now ==
>> ? ? ? - 1xx: Informational - Request received, continuing process
>>
>> ? ? ? - 2xx: Success - The action was successfully received,
>> ? ? ? ? understood, and accepted
>>
>> ? ? ? - 3xx: Redirection - Further action must be taken in order to
>> ? ? ? ? complete the request
>>
>> ? ? ? - 4xx: Client Error - The request contains bad syntax or cannot
>> ? ? ? ? be fulfilled
>>
>> ? ? ? - 5xx: Server Error - The server failed to fulfill an apparently
>>
>> == And Know Soon!! :) ==
>> ? ? ?Status-Code ? ?=
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? "100" ?; Section 10.1.1: Continue
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "101" ?; Section 10.1.2: Switching Protocols
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "200" ?; Section 10.2.1: OK
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "201" ?; Section 10.2.2: Created
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "202" ?; Section 10.2.3: Accepted
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "203" ?; Section 10.2.4: Non-Authoritative Information
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "204" ?; Section 10.2.5: No Content
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "205" ?; Section 10.2.6: Reset Content
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "206" ?; Section 10.2.7: Partial Content
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "300" ?; Section 10.3.1: Multiple Choices
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "301" ?; Section 10.3.2: Moved Permanently
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "302" ?; Section 10.3.3: Found
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "303" ?; Section 10.3.4: See Other
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "304" ?; Section 10.3.5: Not Modified
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "305" ?; Section 10.3.6: Use Proxy
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "307" ?; Section 10.3.8: Temporary Redirect
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "400" ?; Section 10.4.1: Bad Request
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "401" ?; Section 10.4.2: Unauthorized
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "402" ?; Section 10.4.3: Payment Required
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "403" ?; Section 10.4.4: Forbidden
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "404" ?; Section 10.4.5: Not Found
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "405" ?; Section 10.4.6: Method Not Allowed
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "406" ?; Section 10.4.7: Not Acceptable
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "407" ?; Section 10.4.8: Proxy Authentication Required
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "408" ?; Section 10.4.9: Request Time-out
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "409" ?; Section 10.4.10: Conflict
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "410" ?; Section 10.4.11: Gone
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "411" ?; Section 10.4.12: Length Required
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "412" ?; Section 10.4.13: Precondition Failed
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "413" ?; Section 10.4.14: Request Entity Too Large
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "414" ?; Section 10.4.15: Request-URI Too Large
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "415" ?; Section 10.4.16: Unsupported Media Type
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "416" ?; Section 10.4.17: Requested range not satisfiable
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "417" ?; Section 10.4.18: Expectation Failed
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "500" ?; Section 10.5.1: Internal Server Error
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "501" ?; Section 10.5.2: Not Implemented
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "502" ?; Section 10.5.3: Bad Gateway
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "503" ?; Section 10.5.4: Service Unavailable
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "504" ?; Section 10.5.5: Gateway Time-out
>> ? ? ? ? ? | "505" ?; Section 10.5.6: HTTP Version not supported
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Margaret Waldman<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>> ?wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you. ?I?m getting 201 now. ?I?m tired. ?It?s nap time.
>>>
>>> From: Kristina Anderson
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:44 PM
>>> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] curl
>>>
>>> 400 sounds like a server response code not a cURL error code...
>>>
>>> HTTP response code 400 is a syntax error in your HTTP request.
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>> On 7/9/2011 5:24 PM, Margaret Waldman wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you in advanced.
>>>
>>> From: Margaret Waldman
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:24 PM
>>> To: NYPHP Talk
>>> Subject: [nycphp-talk] curl
>>>
>>> What is a curl return error of 400?
>>>
>>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>>> ________________________________
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 05:09:24 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:09:24 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] largest interger
Message-ID: <D1B7A831AFC140AFA93858452B8B9100@michelePC>

Does anyone know the largest integer in php?

Margaret Michele Waldman
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From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:11:51 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] largest interger
In-Reply-To: <D1B7A831AFC140AFA93858452B8B9100@michelePC>
References: <D1B7A831AFC140AFA93858452B8B9100@michelePC>
Message-ID: <68713195D7134BEFBC2D74398947F8EC@michelePC>

I found 2147483647 in the documentation, but I saw larger numbers working.  Hum.

From: Margaret Waldman 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:09 AM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: [nycphp-talk] largest interger

Does anyone know the largest integer in php?

Margaret Michele Waldman


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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 09:26:09 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:26:09 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <4E186007.9050905@kacomputerconsulting.com>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>	<0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>	<68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>	<4E179CE9.2070007@kacomputerconsulting.com>	<AAF7121FE88F46759CD5BB2AE9B71DDD@michelePC><D14C5FBF-5CCE-416F-B181-E835E52B8591@beaffinitive.com>
	<4E186007.9050905@kacomputerconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <3E172EC251CA4175BED10BF72A780763@michelePC>

Well how about a nyphp-talk(javascript) list for php programmers who develop 
in javascript, too?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kristina Anderson
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:04 AM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax

Let's face it, there is NO other list anywhere that can hope to measure
up to the NY-PHP list.

Kristina

On 7/9/2011 9:53 AM, Rob Marscher wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:24 AM, "Margaret Waldman"<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know of a good javascript forum, I have a question about 
>> processing the xml in jquery returned from post.  I know how to process 
>> it with straight javascript.
> I don't think jquery provides any utilities for handling XML. You might 
> find a plugin that does it - but there's no reason not to use straight 
> javascript if you know something that works.
>
> I don't have a javascript forum to recommend.  It could be worthy of a 
> special nyphp-js list here since javascript and php go pretty hand in hand 
> these days and I'm sure many people here are experts in javascript in 
> addition to php. Or actually, I think we have a nyphp-frontend list 
> already. I guess the only problem is those special lists don't see the 
> same amount of activity as the nyphp-talk list.
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
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From sbritton at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 09:33:35 2011
From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:33:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
In-Reply-To: <3E172EC251CA4175BED10BF72A780763@michelePC>
References: <8B12E3462BAA4C9B97712314248232DF@michelePC>
	<CA+==QhtZXa9psEVkpyt1zRPYkK+Z-=HpeaNvmYFqXb7q8=6sFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<6E5C23DEC7704452B300A6F640B79FF7@michelePC>
	<CA+==Qhvj+4fmMjsB6bzx_d4idYBx5C20FonUDrQCay5xC_qOTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0820F5D24C2443A39C4E452F80099E81@michelePC>
	<4E17739C.5070709@kacomputerconsulting.com>
	<68C1C769F4524CAD921BE8314D620DE9@michelePC>
	<4E179CE9.2070007@kacomputerconsulting.com>
	<AAF7121FE88F46759CD5BB2AE9B71DDD@michelePC>
	<D14C5FBF-5CCE-416F-B181-E835E52B8591@beaffinitive.com>
	<4E186007.9050905@kacomputerconsulting.com>
	<3E172EC251CA4175BED10BF72A780763@michelePC>
Message-ID: <CABcNofNhuDFXTnvv5C1nvML=SZYL=j8p3L5HBTKpj0sSNVDw_A@mail.gmail.com>

Why?

There is already a mailing list - NYPHP SIG: Front End that covers
JavaScript / jQuery /JSON. You can join at nyphp.org

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>wrote:

> Well how about a nyphp-talk(javascript) list for php programmers who
> develop in javascript, too?
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kristina Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:04 AM
>
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
>
> Let's face it, there is NO other list anywhere that can hope to measure
> up to the NY-PHP list.
>
> Kristina
>
> On 7/9/2011 9:53 AM, Rob Marscher wrote:
>
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:24 AM, "Margaret Waldman"<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Anyone know of a good javascript forum, I have a question about
>>> processing the xml in jquery returned from post.  I know how to process it
>>> with straight javascript.
>>>
>> I don't think jquery provides any utilities for handling XML. You might
>> find a plugin that does it - but there's no reason not to use straight
>> javascript if you know something that works.
>>
>> I don't have a javascript forum to recommend.  It could be worthy of a
>> special nyphp-js list here since javascript and php go pretty hand in hand
>> these days and I'm sure many people here are experts in javascript in
>> addition to php. Or actually, I think we have a nyphp-frontend list already.
>> I guess the only problem is those special lists don't see the same amount of
>> activity as the nyphp-talk list.
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 09:56:30 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:56:30 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
Message-ID: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC>

I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

time() + x

We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

time() + 3944700000

But that number is too big.

Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

Time today =            1310305571
Time tomorrow =     1310391971
Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

$newLife = 2147483647  - time();

setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

Margaret Michele Waldman
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From hans at cyberxdesigns.com  Sun Jul 10 10:05:06 2011
From: hans at cyberxdesigns.com (Hans C. Kaspersetz)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:05:06 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
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On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "Margaret Waldman" <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> Well how about a nyphp-talk(javascript) list for php programmers who develop in javascript, too?
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Kristina Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:04 AM
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Wordpress & Ajax
> 
> Let's face it, there is NO other list anywhere that can hope to measure
> up to the NY-PHP list.
> 
> Kristina
> 
> On 7/9/2011 9:53 AM, Rob Marscher wrote:
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:24 AM, "Margaret Waldman"<mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone know of a good javascript forum, I have a question about processing the xml in jquery returned from post.  I know how to process it with straight javascript.
>> I don't think jquery provides any utilities for handling XML. You might find a plugin that does it - but there's no reason not to use straight javascript if you know something that works.
>> 
>> I don't have a javascript forum to recommend.  It could be worthy of a special nyphp-js list here since javascript and php go pretty hand in hand these days and I'm sure many people here are experts in javascript in addition to php. Or actually, I think we have a nyphp-frontend list already. I guess the only problem is those special lists don't see the same amount of activity as the nyphp-talk list.
>> _______________________________________________
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 10:11:16 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:11:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC>
References: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC>
Message-ID: <78211BBA935845BF8034C99E6B33566F@michelePC>

My calcs/prog show

2147483647 really is the biggest int

From: Margaret Waldman 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

time() + x

We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

time() + 3944700000

But that number is too big.

Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

Time today =            1310305571
Time tomorrow =     1310391971
Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

$newLife = 2147483647  - time();

setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

Margaret Michele Waldman


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From jim at jimyi.com  Sun Jul 10 10:44:03 2011
From: jim at jimyi.com (Jim Yi)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:44:03 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC>
References: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC>
Message-ID: <CACmbXKG95ahKFfaOZoB0jO9FUQ16PJf4p1M5qCxEwg87zmZ0Ww@mail.gmail.com>

PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in this
case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you should
really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time() completely, and
just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an integer.

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);

This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest
expiration you can set anyway.

On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's
expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be
alive, you have to hope that the user:
- is using the same computer for five years
- has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
- has never switched browsers
- has never cleared their cookies

I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't
really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years
from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.

---
Jim Yi


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>wrote:

>   I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.
>
> time() + x
>
> We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.
>
> time() + 3944700000
>
> But that number is too big.
>
> Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.
>
> So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647
>
> 2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the
> bigger integer
>
> But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years
>
> But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the
> biggest integer
>
> Time today =            1310305571
> Time tomorrow =     1310391971
> Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
> In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)
>
> So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years
>
> The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you
> can extend in ints decreases.
>
> So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should
>
> $newLife = 2147483647  - time();
>
> setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);
>
> I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an
> issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?
>
> Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t
> 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.
>
> Margaret Michele Waldman
>
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From danielc at analysisandsolutions.com  Sun Jul 10 11:31:46 2011
From: danielc at analysisandsolutions.com (Daniel Convissor)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:31:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] largest interger
In-Reply-To: <68713195D7134BEFBC2D74398947F8EC@michelePC>
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Message-ID: <20110710153145.GA8473@panix.com>

Hi:

> I found 2147483647 in the documentation, but I saw larger numbers
> working.  Hum.

It's platform/operating system dependent.  Things tend to get hairy over
2^53.  There's bcmath if you need big numbers or significant precision.

--Dan

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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 12:09:46 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:09:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <CACmbXKG95ahKFfaOZoB0jO9FUQ16PJf4p1M5qCxEwg87zmZ0Ww@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9E428F2CA3BF46CE864FF34B9CD73038@michelePC>

I?ve thought of all of this ...


- is using the same computer for five years
- has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
- has never switched browsers
- has never cleared their cookies

Thanks for PHP_INT_MAX.  
From: Jim Yi 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in this case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you should really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time() completely, and just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an integer.

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);

This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest expiration you can set anyway.

On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be alive, you have to hope that the user:
- is using the same computer for five years
- has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
- has never switched browsers
- has never cleared their cookies

I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.

---
Jim Yi



On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

  I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

  time() + x

  We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

  time() + 3944700000

  But that number is too big.

  Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

  So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

  2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

  But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

  But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

  Time today =            1310305571
  Time tomorrow =     1310391971
  Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
  In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

  So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

  The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

  So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

  $newLife = 2147483647  - time();

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

  I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

  Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

  Margaret Michele Waldman

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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 12:11:39 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:11:39 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
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well not of brower specific, but I?ve had several computers crash so I?m fully aware that most no one will be using that cookie in 68 years.    lol

From: Jim Yi 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in this case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you should really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time() completely, and just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an integer.

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);

This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest expiration you can set anyway.

On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be alive, you have to hope that the user:
- is using the same computer for five years
- has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
- has never switched browsers
- has never cleared their cookies

I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.

---
Jim Yi



On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

  I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

  time() + x

  We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

  time() + 3944700000

  But that number is too big.

  Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

  So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

  2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

  But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

  But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

  Time today =            1310305571
  Time tomorrow =     1310391971
  Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
  In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

  So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

  The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

  So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

  $newLife = 2147483647  - time();

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

  I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

  Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

  Margaret Michele Waldman

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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 12:13:56 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:13:56 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <CACmbXKG95ahKFfaOZoB0jO9FUQ16PJf4p1M5qCxEwg87zmZ0Ww@mail.gmail.com>
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Jim,  I used the at 386 from ?90-?04.  I even put Windows ?95 on it and surfed the web.  Granted it was slowed than you can imagine ...

From: Jim Yi 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in this case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you should really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time() completely, and just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an integer.

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);

This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest expiration you can set anyway.

On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be alive, you have to hope that the user:
- is using the same computer for five years
- has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
- has never switched browsers
- has never cleared their cookies

I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.

---
Jim Yi



On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

  I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

  time() + x

  We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

  time() + 3944700000

  But that number is too big.

  Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

  So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

  2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

  But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

  But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

  Time today =            1310305571
  Time tomorrow =     1310391971
  Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
  In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

  So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

  The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

  So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

  $newLife = 2147483647  - time();

  setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

  I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

  Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

  Margaret Michele Waldman

  _______________________________________________
  New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List
  http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

  http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation





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From ioplex at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 21:14:18 2011
From: ioplex at gmail.com (Michael B Allen)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:14:18 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Google Rank Amateur
Message-ID: <CAGMFw4j-o02tzHTHWELNtm4VfNSz4U2Xn6c2+-B1zcHwv+_ZUA@mail.gmail.com>

I just found a major mistake in one of my websites. The Google rank
for the primary page has always been inexplicably horrible. Then I
found out that Google decreases the ranking of a page if it contains
content that is largely duplicated elsewhere such as on an adjacent
page. Turns out that index.html was just a symbolic link to the page
with a bad rank. Meaning Google was indexing the same exact page
through two slightly different URLs.

I now generate the pages separately with one containing <meta
name="robots" content="noindex"/> (which unfortunately has to be
index.html because the other page has good external links) so
hopefully that will clear up any penalty for duplicate content.

Anyway, if anyone knows of other Google rank pitfalls to avoid, I
would be delighted to hear about them.

Mike


From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Sun Jul 10 22:47:53 2011
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:47:53 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Google Rank Amateur
In-Reply-To: <CAGMFw4j-o02tzHTHWELNtm4VfNSz4U2Xn6c2+-B1zcHwv+_ZUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGMFw4j-o02tzHTHWELNtm4VfNSz4U2Xn6c2+-B1zcHwv+_ZUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C5CB168-A3A2-4BD7-B14F-727C69F8793F@beaffinitive.com>

On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Michael B Allen wrote:
> Meaning Google was indexing the same exact page
> through two slightly different URLs.
> 
> I now generate the pages separately with one containing <meta
> name="robots" content="noindex"/> (which unfortunately has to be
> index.html because the other page has good external links) so
> hopefully that will clear up any penalty for duplicate content.

Take a look at <link rel="canonical" href="put the primary url for the content here" /> and put that in all of your pages with the same content.

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/02/specify-your-canonical.html




From jcampbell1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 22:57:47 2011
From: jcampbell1 at gmail.com (John Campbell)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:57:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <D6FEA4F7E8F54ED1A238B9583C182F49@michelePC>
References: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC>
	<CACmbXKG95ahKFfaOZoB0jO9FUQ16PJf4p1M5qCxEwg87zmZ0Ww@mail.gmail.com>
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The reason you cannot add 125 years is the 2038 problem.  A simple solution
is to set the expiration date to Jan 1, 2038.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

-jc

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>wrote:

>   Jim,  I used the at 386 from ?90-?04.  I even put Windows ?95 on it and
> surfed the web.  Granted it was slowed than you can imagine ...
>
>  *From:* Jim Yi <jim at jimyi.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:44 AM
> *To:* NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
>
>  PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in
> this case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you
> should really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time()
> completely, and just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an
> integer.
>
>   setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);
>
> This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest
> expiration you can set anyway.
>
> On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's
> expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be
> alive, you have to hope that the user:
> - is using the same computer for five years
> - has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
> - has never switched browsers
> - has never cleared their cookies
>
> I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't
> really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years
> from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.
>
> ---
> Jim Yi
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com>wrote:
>
>>   I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.
>>
>> time() + x
>>
>> We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.
>>
>> time() + 3944700000
>>
>> But that number is too big.
>>
>> Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.
>>
>> So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647
>>
>> 2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than
>> the bigger integer
>>
>> But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years
>>
>> But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the
>> biggest integer
>>
>> Time today =            1310305571
>> Time tomorrow =     1310391971
>> Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
>> In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)
>>
>> So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years
>>
>> The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you
>> can extend in ints decreases.
>>
>> So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should
>>
>> $newLife = 2147483647  - time();
>>
>> setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);
>>
>> I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an
>> issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?
>>
>> Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t
>> 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.
>>
>> Margaret Michele Waldman
>>
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From jcampbell1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 23:07:59 2011
From: jcampbell1 at gmail.com (John Campbell)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:07:59 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Google Rank Amateur
In-Reply-To: <CAGMFw4j-o02tzHTHWELNtm4VfNSz4U2Xn6c2+-B1zcHwv+_ZUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGMFw4j-o02tzHTHWELNtm4VfNSz4U2Xn6c2+-B1zcHwv+_ZUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPK-xcv6+hCO=VqOXkAXLuUwnaZCV6PmvYcJSgQCXM=jmn95sQ@mail.gmail.com>

Your "solution" will make things worse with google.  There is no "duplicate"
content pentalty, but there is a "scraper" penalty, and I doubt that is
being applied in your case.  "noindex" tells google that you have a page
that customers can and should see, but the googlebot specifically doesn't
have permission to view it.  That is not likely to help your cause with
google.

The best solution, is to 301 redirect to the canonical page.  If you can't
do that, then use Rob's suggestion of <link rel="canonical"...

-jc

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Michael B Allen <ioplex at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just found a major mistake in one of my websites. The Google rank
> for the primary page has always been inexplicably horrible. Then I
> found out that Google decreases the ranking of a page if it contains
> content that is largely duplicated elsewhere such as on an adjacent
> page. Turns out that index.html was just a symbolic link to the page
> with a bad rank. Meaning Google was indexing the same exact page
> through two slightly different URLs.
>
> I now generate the pages separately with one containing <meta
> name="robots" content="noindex"/> (which unfortunately has to be
> index.html because the other page has good external links) so
> hopefully that will clear up any penalty for duplicate content.
>
> Anyway, if anyone knows of other Google rank pitfalls to avoid, I
> would be delighted to hear about them.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 00:04:43 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:04:43 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Hans is going to kill me
Message-ID: <87A5A6F1489F491FBDD87763BD282A7B@michelePC>

Party at my house.  I finished my project after working all weekend.  No.  I?m not drinking.

Woohoo!  Thanks to all those who help especially Jim for saved me for having a hard-coded value in my code.

Margaret Michele Waldman
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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 00:05:47 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:05:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <CAPK-xctgRv-8PVzdmrPL47otQ8trS=fYX_W4KU_AN133287+mA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC><CACmbXKG95ahKFfaOZoB0jO9FUQ16PJf4p1M5qCxEwg87zmZ0Ww@mail.gmail.com><D6FEA4F7E8F54ED1A238B9583C182F49@michelePC>
	<CAPK-xctgRv-8PVzdmrPL47otQ8trS=fYX_W4KU_AN133287+mA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7FAEC169E5F647D4AF9A81C77212287B@michelePC>

I guess I reinvented the wheel.

Hey, John.

From: John Campbell 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

The reason you cannot add 125 years is the 2038 problem.  A simple solution is to set the expiration date to Jan 1, 2038.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem  

-jc


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

  Jim,  I used the at 386 from ?90-?04.  I even put Windows ?95 on it and surfed the web.  Granted it was slowed than you can imagine ...

  From: Jim Yi 
  Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:44 AM
  To: NYPHP Talk 
  Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

  PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in this case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you should really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time() completely, and just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an integer.

    setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);

  This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest expiration you can set anyway.

  On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be alive, you have to hope that the user:
  - is using the same computer for five years
  - has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
  - has never switched browsers
  - has never cleared their cookies

  I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.

  ---
  Jim Yi



  On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

    I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

    time() + x

    We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

    time() + 3944700000

    But that number is too big.

    Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

    So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

    2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

    But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

    But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

    Time today =            1310305571
    Time tomorrow =     1310391971
    Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
    In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

    So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

    The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

    So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

    $newLife = 2147483647  - time();

    setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

    I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

    Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

    Margaret Michele Waldman

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From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 00:43:57 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:43:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation
In-Reply-To: <CAPK-xctgRv-8PVzdmrPL47otQ8trS=fYX_W4KU_AN133287+mA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B6ECA7F976B43C4B39E706B725DDA8A@michelePC><CACmbXKG95ahKFfaOZoB0jO9FUQ16PJf4p1M5qCxEwg87zmZ0Ww@mail.gmail.com><D6FEA4F7E8F54ED1A238B9583C182F49@michelePC>
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Message-ID: <C548F480AF844035A00A3FB77638C953@michelePC>

So will the world come to an end or will it just weed out the big boys from the little boys?

Now, I know I?m in trouble.  I finally saw Hans message.

From: John Campbell 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:57 PM
To: NYPHP Talk 
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

The reason you cannot add 125 years is the 2038 problem.  A simple solution is to set the expiration date to Jan 1, 2038.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem  

-jc


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

  Jim,  I used the at 386 from ?90-?04.  I even put Windows ?95 on it and surfed the web.  Granted it was slowed than you can imagine ...

  From: Jim Yi 
  Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:44 AM
  To: NYPHP Talk 
  Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] cookies and experiation

  PHP has some useful predefined constants, particularly PHP_INT_MAX in this case (http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.constants.php).  What you should really be doing while setting the cookie is ignoring time() completely, and just set the expiration time to the maximum size of an integer.

    setcookie(?name?, ?val?, PHP_INT_MAX);

  This way, the cookie expires in 2038 for everyone, which is the furthest expiration you can set anyway.

  On a more theoretical note, there really isn't a need to set a cookie's expiration date beyond, let's say 5 years.  For that cookie to even still be alive, you have to hope that the user:
  - is using the same computer for five years
  - has never reformatted the hard drive or re-installed a fresh OS
  - has never switched browsers
  - has never cleared their cookies

  I'd say a combination of all of the above is extremely rare, and I can't really think of a good use-case where a cookie would still be useful 5 years from now, given that the internet is constantly evolving.

  ---
  Jim Yi



  On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Margaret Waldman <mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

    I wanted to create a cookie that basically never expires.

    time() + x

    We can live to say 100 or so, so say 125 years expiration would be good.

    time() + 3944700000

    But that number is too big.

    Intval says on a 32 bit machine max is 2147483647.

    So 2147483647 ? time() = 4294967294, which is bigger than 2147483647

    2147483647 = 68 years but because I?m adding time it grows bigger than the bigger integer

    But I really can only do this 2147483647  - time() = 837178076 26 years

    But php wasn?t crapping out on 290000000 + time(), so what really is the biggest integer

    Time today =            1310305571
    Time tomorrow =     1310391971
    Next year will be =   1341863171 (42 years)
    In 20 years will be = 1372420841 (52 years)

    So, 2147483647 ? time in 20 year (1372420841) = 775062806 approx 23 years

    The numbers don?t look quite right but at time increases the life time you can extend in ints decreases.

    So, instead of just adding a value to time, I should

    $newLife = 2147483647  - time();

    setcookie(?name?, ?val?, time() + newLife);

    I?m sure by the time, time() grows to be so big that this formula is an issue, integers will be big enough to handle it?

    Anyway, does anyone know the real max size of an integer? Cause it ain?t 2147483647 like the docs say for a 32 bit machine.

    Margaret Michele Waldman

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From afischer at smith.edu  Mon Jul 11 12:28:21 2011
From: afischer at smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:28:21 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendation for JS/AJAX?
In-Reply-To: <4E15D109.30504@tinkertownlabs.com>
References: <4E158CD8020000A400011263@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>
	<4E15D109.30504@tinkertownlabs.com>
Message-ID: <4E1AEC65020000A400011499@gwsmtp1.smith.edu>

Looks great, thanks, just ordered the 6th edition.  Can't wait for it to arrive!
 
-Aaron


>>> Anthony Wlodarski <anthony at tinkertownlabs.com> 7/7/2011 11:30 AM >>>
JavaScript The Definitive Guide:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=JavaScript+The+Definitive+Guide

This is the only book I would trust.  It covers jQuery as well in the later chapters (6th edition only).  On top of that it is an excellent resource to read if you are delving into Node.js and want to learn more about closures, callback functions, and real inner workings of EMCA script and how it applies to client side as well as server programming.

-Anthony

On 07/07/2011 10:39 AM, Aaron Fischer wrote: 


Hey guys,
 
I'd like to spruce up my html/php pages with more dynamic elements and JS/AJAX/JQUERY/JSON type stuff.  My stuff has been mostly html and php to date, only played with javascript a little.  However, I see value in adding more dynamic elements to my pages (showing/hiding div content, calls to php from the page without reloading, etc.).
 
I'm looking for a book that will cover the basics and get me up and running, but also has room to grow and get into more intermediate/advanced stuff.
 
Any thoughts or recommendations would be most appreciated.
 
-Aaron
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From ioplex at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 14:31:54 2011
From: ioplex at gmail.com (Michael B Allen)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:31:54 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Google Rank Amateur
In-Reply-To: <5C5CB168-A3A2-4BD7-B14F-727C69F8793F@beaffinitive.com>
References: <CAGMFw4j-o02tzHTHWELNtm4VfNSz4U2Xn6c2+-B1zcHwv+_ZUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5C5CB168-A3A2-4BD7-B14F-727C69F8793F@beaffinitive.com>
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On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Rob Marscher
<rmarscher at beaffinitive.com> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Michael B Allen wrote:
>> Meaning Google was indexing the same exact page
>> through two slightly different URLs.
>>
>> I now generate the pages separately with one containing <meta
>> name="robots" content="noindex"/> (which unfortunately has to be
>> index.html because the other page has good external links) so
>> hopefully that will clear up any penalty for duplicate content.
>
> Take a look at <link rel="canonical" href="put the primary url for the content here" /> and put that in all of your pages with the same content.
>
> http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/02/specify-your-canonical.html

Hi Rob and James,

This is very informative. I have replaced the meta tag with <link
rel="canonical" href="/primary.html"/>. Hopefully that will clear
things up.

Thanks,
Mike


From mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com  Tue Jul 12 17:37:36 2011
From: mmwaldman at nyc.rr.com (Margaret Waldman)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:37:36 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Off the topic
Message-ID: <DF4387A16A44407FBF764077B8658FEE@michelePC>

Not for nothing by if the documentation at http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/js_api_reference.html was right.  I would have gotten a filling that I badly needed.

I still can make it to the gym.  Now, I can finally eat.

Why do you have to go to: http://efreedom.com/Question/1-1080031/Ytplayer-Defined-Using-SWFObject-Method-Include-Chromeless-Youtube-Video-Site to get the correct code?

Margaret Michele Waldman
Sovereign Sites LLC
646-499-5004
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 06:39:11 2011
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:39:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Reading/writing id3v2 tags from MP3 files in PHP?
Message-ID: <8C27A898-6D78-4525-A6C5-8C9A4DD4F02E@gmail.com>

Anyone have recommendations for reading/writing id3v2 .mp3 files from  
PHP? Thanks!

David Roth



From david at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 15 09:55:48 2011
From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:55:48 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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Pondering how to approach a situation where the application needs to count
on a certain string to be in certain database rows in order to know what to
do. Without going into excruciating detail, let me ask if you think there
are cases where it's good practice to basically hard-code in some rows of a
table certain data that your application needs, and somehow mark them as
immutable -- at the application level, stop the user from touching them.
Other rows in the same table would be fair game -- they can add, modify and
delete.

Comments?

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From david at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 15 10:04:43 2011
From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:04:43 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Philip Camilleri <
philip.camilleri at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi David,
>
> simply put -- No!
>
> It's not quite good design, and you risk having several issues down the
> road. Better to split the table in two (even though from a normalized design
> perspective, that's not quite right -- however, you give yourself a lot more
> flexibility, and then can either create a view joining both tables, or just
> join in your queries).
>
> Phil.
>


Well, I'm not totally convinced, and I haven't described my scenario in any
detail to try to convince you. But it's food for thought that I will duly
consider.

Whenever I see myself getting too fancy, Occam's Razor makes me skeptical of
my own thinking. And I do have the Razor here hovering over my shoulder.

-- 
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From rainelemental at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 10:06:20 2011
From: rainelemental at gmail.com (federico ulfo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:06:20 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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Yes, is called permission and it make sense, same as file system there can
be users that have limited access on some contents

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:55 AM, David Mintz <david at davidmintz.org> wrote:

Pondering how to approach a situation where the application needs to count
on a certain string to be in certain database rows in order to know what to
do. Without going into excruciating detail, let me ask if you think there
are cases where it's good practice to basically hard-code in some rows of a
table certain data that your application needs, and somehow mark them as
immutable -- at the application level, stop the user from touching them.
Other rows in the same table would be fair game -- they can add, modify and
delete.

Comments?

-- 
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/
It ain't over:
http://www.healthcare-now.org/


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From rainelemental at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 10:11:58 2011
From: rainelemental at gmail.com (federico ulfo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:11:58 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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It's simple just add a permission table :) linked to the content table and
to the users and to the groups:
Permission ( permission_id, content_id, users_id, group_id, permission )

Also normalization is not always necessary in my experience I found faster
and easier sometimes to just "brake the law" and keep all info on a single
table, not elegant but if works better/faster why not?

My 2 cents

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:04 AM, David Mintz <david at davidmintz.org> wrote:



On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Philip Camilleri <
philip.camilleri at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi David,
>
> simply put -- No!
>
> It's not quite good design, and you risk having several issues down the
> road. Better to split the table in two (even though from a normalized design
> perspective, that's not quite right -- however, you give yourself a lot more
> flexibility, and then can either create a view joining both tables, or just
> join in your queries).
>
> Phil.
>


Well, I'm not totally convinced, and I haven't described my scenario in any
detail to try to convince you. But it's food for thought that I will duly
consider.

Whenever I see myself getting too fancy, Occam's Razor makes me skeptical of
my own thinking. And I do have the Razor here hovering over my shoulder.

-- 
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/
It ain't over:
http://www.healthcare-now.org/


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From ramons at gmx.net  Fri Jul 15 10:38:07 2011
From: ramons at gmx.net (David Krings)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:38:07 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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On 7/15/2011 9:55 AM, David Mintz wrote:
> Pondering how to approach a situation where the application needs to count on
> a certain string to be in certain database rows in order to know what to do.
> Without going into excruciating detail, let me ask if you think there are
> cases where it's good practice to basically hard-code in some rows of a table
> certain data that your application needs, and somehow mark them as immutable
> -- at the application level, stop the user from touching them. Other rows in
> the same table would be fair game -- they can add, modify and delete.
>
> Comments?
>

Why not simply add a second table, one that is free game and one that is set 
to read-only. They will have the same structure and technically the same 
function, but the permissions are different. May not be the best approach, but 
strikes me to be better than mushing it all into one table. Or is there a 
technical need for this?
Then again, if those records are never to be changed by users, why have them 
in the database to begin with. Some may disagree, but I think that anything 
static has no place in a database. Put it in flat file somewhere or if it 
truely is never to change hard code it.


David


From rainelemental at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 10:40:02 2011
From: rainelemental at gmail.com (Federico Ulfo)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:40:02 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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totally no, how you get a complete query of both? You should merge them and
order the ID, and it's very performance killing.
Just use the filesystem solution, a permission flag, that's pretty easy
right?


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Certified Developer Google & PHP
  <http://www.federicoulfo.it/>



On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, David Krings <ramons at gmx.net> wrote:

> On 7/15/2011 9:55 AM, David Mintz wrote:
>
>> Pondering how to approach a situation where the application needs to count
>> on
>> a certain string to be in certain database rows in order to know what to
>> do.
>> Without going into excruciating detail, let me ask if you think there are
>> cases where it's good practice to basically hard-code in some rows of a
>> table
>> certain data that your application needs, and somehow mark them as
>> immutable
>> -- at the application level, stop the user from touching them. Other rows
>> in
>> the same table would be fair game -- they can add, modify and delete.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>>
> Why not simply add a second table, one that is free game and one that is
> set to read-only. They will have the same structure and technically the same
> function, but the permissions are different. May not be the best approach,
> but strikes me to be better than mushing it all into one table. Or is there
> a technical need for this?
> Then again, if those records are never to be changed by users, why have
> them in the database to begin with. Some may disagree, but I think that
> anything static has no place in a database. Put it in flat file somewhere or
> if it truely is never to change hard code it.
>
>
> David
>
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From david at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 15 11:30:08 2011
From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:30:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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I hesitate to bore you with my details, but -- you can stop reading if it
gets too boring.

The application will manage judiciary interpreters (yeah, same project for
the past 8 years or so) in the office where i work ( as a court interpreter;
code monkey isn't in my formal job description at all (-: ).

There's an entity called an "event." Its attributes include: date, time,
language_id, event_type_id, location_id, and so forth. Naturally, there's a
related table called event_types for storing the kinds of things we do:
plea; sentencing; arraignment; attorney/client interview; etc. There's much
more to be said about the db design, but I'll skip it.

event_types have an attribute "in_court? which is boolean. Things are either
in-court, or they are ancillary events like attorney-client interviews.
(This is important; the suits in Washington require federal courts to report
interpreter usage based on such things).

Fast forward to the user interface for creating/editing events. I want to
intelligently guess the default location based on the event type. (A judge
has a default courtroom usually, though in some cases not: some have only a
default courthouse. My locations model supports one level of nesting. A
courtroom is in a courthouse but both are locations.)

Now we come to some Javascript: an event handler that fires when the change
event on the "judge" select element happens. This handler looks at the
event_type to decide whether to set the location controls to that judge's
default courtroom, or not. I will have already loaded a JSON data structure
that tells me if an event_type is in_court or out. (There's much more: e.g.,
I get the judge's default location info via xhr and cache it; so first I
look in the cache to see if it's already there. Yesterday I created a flow
chart on a large marker board to get a clearer picture in my mind, and
confirmed the obvious:  it seems complicated because it is complicated.)

The plot thickens if the event_type is out of court. if it's out, it's
usually still in a courthouse, so I want to leave what a call the parent
location (the building, basically) consistent with the judge's default.
Unless the event_type is of type "probation interview" which is almost
invariably held outside any courthouse:  those happen in jails and US
probation offices. Therefore, if the user selects "probation interview" I
don't want to default to any location, but make her choose (note my PC use
of what I call the counter-sexist "she." Actually everyone is my office is
female except me, so the odds are that the user is indeed a she (-:).

So, should my JS code examine the currently selected event_type option to
see if it matches the string "probation interview?" That would do fine,
unless a user with admin privileges decides to edit the name of that
particular event_type beyond recognition and breaks my javascript. Hence my
conclusion that this application needs to have certain event_types -- I
think of them as "core" event types -- that are loaded into the database at
setup time and are never messed with again. There's a logical business basis
for that:  there are certain kinds of courtroom events that you are
absolutely going to need, so why not get them in there up front. Thereafter,
users at a certain privilege level can add other event types as needed --
occasionally some new exotic thing may arise; edit them when they decide
they spelled it wrong; delete them (if the event_type has no related rows
and they change their mind).

I don't think it makes sense to have two different tables, as in "basic"
event_types that ship with the app, and "custom" that the user creates. That
would make for torture when it comes time to figure out which table you need
events to JOIN with.  btw I have seen db designs in which you had a column
for a foreign key, and another column to tell you which damn table to FK
pointed to. Obviously this is for myisam or similar, not db-level FK
relationships. I think that's a bad idea and don't wanna do that (again (-:
)

Better, it seems, is to somehow mark my sacred rows as such. At the UI level
I simply won't provide a way to edit them. At the model level I will throw
an exception if they try to update|delete them. So I'm planning to add a
boolean "mutable" to my event_types for that purpose. (Pseudo-boolean, if
you will, since this is MySQL).

PS:  My weapons of choice are MySQL, Zend Framework, and JQuery. When it's
all done, this will be far and away the most ass-kicking federal court
interpreter management application known to humankind.

Comments?



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From dcech at phpwerx.net  Fri Jul 15 11:43:14 2011
From: dcech at phpwerx.net (Dan Cech)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:43:14 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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It sounds like you really just need to change the way in_court is used, 
having multiple options instead of just yes/no.

Then your javascript can key off that and your users can create any 
event types they require and specify where they take place.

Dan

On 7/15/2011 11:30 AM, David Mintz wrote:
> I hesitate to bore you with my details, but -- you can stop reading if it
> gets too boring.
>
> The application will manage judiciary interpreters (yeah, same project for
> the past 8 years or so) in the office where i work ( as a court interpreter;
> code monkey isn't in my formal job description at all (-: ).
>
> There's an entity called an "event." Its attributes include: date, time,
> language_id, event_type_id, location_id, and so forth. Naturally, there's a
> related table called event_types for storing the kinds of things we do:
> plea; sentencing; arraignment; attorney/client interview; etc. There's much
> more to be said about the db design, but I'll skip it.
>
> event_types have an attribute "in_court? which is boolean. Things are either
> in-court, or they are ancillary events like attorney-client interviews.
> (This is important; the suits in Washington require federal courts to report
> interpreter usage based on such things).
>
> Fast forward to the user interface for creating/editing events. I want to
> intelligently guess the default location based on the event type. (A judge
> has a default courtroom usually, though in some cases not: some have only a
> default courthouse. My locations model supports one level of nesting. A
> courtroom is in a courthouse but both are locations.)
>
> Now we come to some Javascript: an event handler that fires when the change
> event on the "judge" select element happens. This handler looks at the
> event_type to decide whether to set the location controls to that judge's
> default courtroom, or not. I will have already loaded a JSON data structure
> that tells me if an event_type is in_court or out. (There's much more: e.g.,
> I get the judge's default location info via xhr and cache it; so first I
> look in the cache to see if it's already there. Yesterday I created a flow
> chart on a large marker board to get a clearer picture in my mind, and
> confirmed the obvious:  it seems complicated because it is complicated.)
>
> The plot thickens if the event_type is out of court. if it's out, it's
> usually still in a courthouse, so I want to leave what a call the parent
> location (the building, basically) consistent with the judge's default.
> Unless the event_type is of type "probation interview" which is almost
> invariably held outside any courthouse:  those happen in jails and US
> probation offices. Therefore, if the user selects "probation interview" I
> don't want to default to any location, but make her choose (note my PC use
> of what I call the counter-sexist "she." Actually everyone is my office is
> female except me, so the odds are that the user is indeed a she (-:).
>
> So, should my JS code examine the currently selected event_type option to
> see if it matches the string "probation interview?" That would do fine,
> unless a user with admin privileges decides to edit the name of that
> particular event_type beyond recognition and breaks my javascript. Hence my
> conclusion that this application needs to have certain event_types -- I
> think of them as "core" event types -- that are loaded into the database at
> setup time and are never messed with again. There's a logical business basis
> for that:  there are certain kinds of courtroom events that you are
> absolutely going to need, so why not get them in there up front. Thereafter,
> users at a certain privilege level can add other event types as needed --
> occasionally some new exotic thing may arise; edit them when they decide
> they spelled it wrong; delete them (if the event_type has no related rows
> and they change their mind).
>
> I don't think it makes sense to have two different tables, as in "basic"
> event_types that ship with the app, and "custom" that the user creates. That
> would make for torture when it comes time to figure out which table you need
> events to JOIN with.  btw I have seen db designs in which you had a column
> for a foreign key, and another column to tell you which damn table to FK
> pointed to. Obviously this is for myisam or similar, not db-level FK
> relationships. I think that's a bad idea and don't wanna do that (again (-:
> )
>
> Better, it seems, is to somehow mark my sacred rows as such. At the UI level
> I simply won't provide a way to edit them. At the model level I will throw
> an exception if they try to update|delete them. So I'm planning to add a
> boolean "mutable" to my event_types for that purpose. (Pseudo-boolean, if
> you will, since this is MySQL).
>
> PS:  My weapons of choice are MySQL, Zend Framework, and JQuery. When it's
> all done, this will be far and away the most ass-kicking federal court
> interpreter management application known to humankind.
>
> Comments?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From david at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 15 11:44:48 2011
From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:44:48 -0400
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Dan Cech <dcech at phpwerx.net> wrote:

> It sounds like you really just need to change the way in_court is used,
> having multiple options instead of just yes/no.
>
> Then your javascript can key off that and your users can create any event
> types they require and specify where they take place.


OMG! That does sound promising!

Your check for $25,000 for consulting services rendered is in the mail.
Thanks!

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http://davidmintz.org/
It ain't over:
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From david at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 15 12:09:17 2011
From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:09:17 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, David Mintz <david at davidmintz.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Dan Cech <dcech at phpwerx.net> wrote:
>
>> It sounds like you really just need to change the way in_court is used,
>> having multiple options instead of just yes/no.
>>
>> Then your javascript can key off that and your users can create any event
>> types they require and specify where they take place.
>
>
> OMG! That does sound promising!
>

In my previous description of the case, for brevity's sake I lied about
in_court being boolean. There already is 1, 0 and -1. To the application -1
means "not applicable" and it's for one thing we interpreters sometimes do
-- translate written documents -- which really isn't "in" or "out," and
which per the business requirements is counted differently from all the
rest.  If I were to have another value signifying "usually even further
'out', like off-site" that would seem appropriate from one point of view but
it smells a little funny. The location is not and shouldn't be tightly bound
to the event_type; rather, it's an attribute of the event. I made the
mistake of coupling the what with the where in my last iteration of this
project, and it came back to bite me.

Looks litke there needs to be some pain however I slice it; the model is
complex because the reality it models is complex. But Dan's approach feels
like it's the right track, so many thanks again -- to all.

-- 
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/
It ain't over:
http://www.healthcare-now.org/
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 01:29:11 2011
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:29:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
Message-ID: <DC648777-B602-4671-A83F-AFEB2729D7C2@gmail.com>

Hold on there a second, what makes you think Dan should take a pay  
cut! :-)
David Roth
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Dan Cech <dcech at phpwerx.net> wrote:

 > It sounds like you really just need to change the way in_court is  
used,
 > having multiple options instead of just yes/no.
 >
 > Then your javascript can key off that and your users can create any  
event
 > types they require and specify where they take place.


OMG! That does sound promising!

Your check for $25,000 for consulting services rendered is in the mail.
Thanks!

-- 
David Mintz


From nick.ilyin at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 11:08:42 2011
From: nick.ilyin at gmail.com (Nick Ilyin)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:08:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Reading/writing id3v2 tags from MP3 files in PHP?
In-Reply-To: <8C27A898-6D78-4525-A6C5-8C9A4DD4F02E@gmail.com>
References: <8C27A898-6D78-4525-A6C5-8C9A4DD4F02E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALr2ZLRr-0KKmC0tf7qBQAaw_apOPTnmuyfNZL9EL8YM4J+TZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David,

PHP has ID3 functions. Here's where you can find it in the reference
manual: http://php.net/id3

Cheers!

Nick
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From rukbat at webdingers.com  Sat Jul 23 21:30:33 2011
From: rukbat at webdingers.com (Rukbat)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:30:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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On 7/15/2011 11:30 AM, David Mintz wrote:
> I hesitate to bore you with my details, but -- you can stop reading if 
> it gets too boring.
<snippety>
> So, should my JS code examine the currently selected event_type option 
> to see if it matches the string "probation interview?"

Have you thought about giving event_type a few different edit levels (in 
a single field - edit_level).  That way you can edit anything (your 
level would be 1 higher than the highest level in the table).  Each 
event has a level the user has to be in order to be able to edit it.  
Default level is the level of the user creating it.  Some users would 
have higher levels, since they understand the data (or can make your 
life miserable).

If I understand the problem, that should work.  If it won't work, I 
don't understand the problem.  Which wouldn't be unusual - it's about 90 
degrees, the end of a long day of debugging and "hello" is a major 
undertaking right now.  But I run into this sort of thing a few times a 
day (I write a lot of web pages), and I usually just brute-force it.  
Elegant is nice, but sometimes it just has to work, and it has to work 
now.  Once it's working and out there, you can play with it on a local 
server and code it so that the flow chart looks nice.


From david at davidmintz.org  Mon Jul 25 09:39:55 2011
From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:39:55 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] db design/ app logic: making certain rows immutable
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Rukbat <rukbat at webdingers.com> wrote:

> On 7/15/2011 11:30 AM, David Mintz wrote:
>
>> I hesitate to bore you with my details, but -- you can stop reading if it
>> gets too boring.
>>
> <snippety>
>
>  So, should my JS code examine the currently selected event_type option to
>> see if it matches the string "probation interview?"
>>
>
> Have you thought about giving event_type a few different edit levels (in a
> single field - edit_level).  That way you can edit anything (your level
> would be 1 higher than the highest level in the table).  Each event has a
> level the user has to be in order to be able to edit it.  Default level is
> the level of the user creating it.  Some users would have higher levels,
> since they understand the data (or can make your life miserable).[...]
>

Thanks for the suggestion. I was considering solutions tending in that
direction, then realized (thanks to a nudge from D. Cech) what I really
needed was slightly more fine-grained metadata about each of my OPTION
elements. I ended up tweaking my database design and using css class
attributes to mark my OPTIONs as belonging to this or that category. Kind of
like, <option class="fish" label="salmon" value="123">salmon</option>.

Maybe what I really need is HTML5 custom attributes, but I think this will
do for now.



-- 
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/
It ain't over:
http://www.healthcare-now.org/
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From davidalanroth at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 08:19:16 2011
From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:19:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Reading/writing id3v2 tags from MP3 files in PHP?
Message-ID: <665AF97C-9EB2-4C47-A08B-EEB427FF152A@gmail.com>

Hi Nick.

Thanks for the reply. It turns out for writing tags, those PHP  
routines don't support v2 which I needed.

Now for the gory details. :-)

However, I did find a solution that worked. There is a command line  
Linux utility called id3v2 which I installed on CentOS.

I ended up writing a PHP program which wrote a shell script to handle  
the passing of the data needed for the parameters to id3v2. Then I ran  
the shell script.

I did want to get the program length of each MP3 to write this to a  
MySQL database, so I did use PHP's shell_exec with command line  
mp3info to get the program runtime.

The other thing I learned about this is that iTunes uses a later  
version of id3v2 (id3v2.2), so you can't write all the tags it uses  
with the id3v2 software although it can read it.

And to convert them to podcast files which remember the position and  
to skip during shuffle, that actually had to be done in iTunes itself.  
Apparently that is a function of iTunes and likely stored in its own  
XML file. Luckily,  the user can select multiple MP3 files after they  
have been imported to iTunes and globally change them to do this.

All this helped make an archive of old radio shows much more enjoyable  
to use.

David Roth


> Hi David,
>
> PHP has ID3 functions. Here's where you can find it in the reference
> manual: http://php.net/id3
>
> Cheers!
>
> Nick



From beef at psyop.tv  Thu Jul 28 09:13:53 2011
From: beef at psyop.tv (Wellington Fan)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:13:53 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] East Village Tech Meetup #2
Message-ID: <CAEO_wHtB_q=cjnPXoZiYX9c_atNod6f-gSL3zEVxeOYw6AJ=yg@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone going? It's tonight, 7pm:

http://www.meetup.com/EastVillageTechies/events/25349121/

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wellington
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From mutazmusa at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 18:48:43 2011
From: mutazmusa at gmail.com (Mutaz Musa)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:48:43 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Usernames with whitespace
Message-ID: <CAH3aafUSK5emcqq4vf4_EbsmXW3ceNWacq1KObeF_=+BtXCOqw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,
What are your thoughts on allowing usernames with spaces, e.g. "john
smith". They're often disallowed and I was wondering on your thoughts
as to why that might be.
One reason I can think of is to avoid confusingly similar usernames,
e.g. "john smith" and "john  smith" (2 spaces)
In those cases wouldn't collapsing multiple spaces into a single space
be a more conservative solution than disallowing the character
entirely?

Mutaz