[nycphp-talk] Most common Framework
Darryle Steplight
dsteplight at gmail.com
Wed Sep 14 14:20:54 EDT 2011
"The framework choice is always less important than having a
well-designed database underlying your code." <- #sotrue
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Kristina Anderson
<ka at kacomputerconsulting.com> wrote:
> A lean & mean AJAX-specific framework is SlimPHP. I've used it and can say
> that I was happy with it.
>
> The "big 5" are clearly: CakePHP, CodeIgniter, Drupal, Zend & Symfony.
> Maybe some agencies in NYC are using Yii but in all my years I've never run
> into one.
>
> I think that it's a good idea to get experience using as many different
> frameworks as you can so you become comfortable with MVC architectures in
> general, and know what the plusses/minuses are in different situations. In
> many cases the people doing the hiring are narrow thinkers who only want to
> hire someone with experience in "that specific framework" when the truth is,
> after a few years, they all start to seem pretty similar.
>
> It's best to stick whenever possible with the less bloated options, like
> Kohana, where performance issues are the primary consideration; although
> yes, there is little or no documentation available for Kohana. In fact I
> will be using Kohana for an upcoming project due to its leanness.
>
> I've dealt extensively with reengineering really horribly designed CakePHP
> codebases and it's amazing what I've seen. It was clearly advertised as a
> quick, easy way to hire really green programmers to build "complex"
> websites. It's not.
>
> The framework choice is always less important than having a well-designed
> database underlying your code.
>
> Happy coding,
>
> Kristina
>
>
>
> On 9/14/2011 11:57 AM, federico ulfo wrote:
>>
>> What's the best framework is one of the hot discussion on linked in.
>> Ruby has Rails, PHP has many, Symfony2 it's a good one, mostly used in
>> Europe, the community is nice, but the founder Fabien Potencier is not
>> very friendly, before come to NYC, at the Italian PHP Day I asked him
>> if they was hiring, he's answer was "we hire only people who speak
>> French" ...
>>
>> Kohana is based on Code Igniter, a good choice but the community is
>> way smaller than Code Igniter, here in NYC many agencies goes for Yii,
>> Zend is one of the best solution, hope the PHP 5 version will improve
>> the performances, which were the biggest issue of it.
>>
>> Keep in consideration also to use a CMF like Drupal, one of the best
>> solution, many NYC agencies chose it, so is also a good skill to add
>> in your resume, if you're searching for job.
>>
>> As last, I'd like to mention the RainFramework, it's easy, lightweight
>> and fast, so if you searching for great performances it's worth a try
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Rob Marscher<rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Bruce Martin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be controversial but I would like to know what the conceived
>>>>> top 5 PHP frameworks are. You don't have to list why, just an order from
>>>>> most popular, i.e. there is more demand for developers with experience using
>>>>> the framework. The reason I ask, is I have just spent a year working with
>>>>> CakePhp, which has it's benefits, but I have also seem some flaws with it.
>>>>> So when I'm ready to move on, I would like to go in the direction of flow in
>>>>> the industry.
>>>>
>>>> From what I've seen around the community, the most popular seem to be
>>>
>>> Zend
>>> Symfony
>>> Cake
>>> CodeIgniter
>>>
>>> I've also seen a number of people using Yii/Prado as well as Vork.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm using Lithium.
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